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Lots of smells have become their own... The fried banana has this crazy skunk smell with a real earth dirt smell once the skunk fades... The orange cake NO kidding, smells like a fresh peeled orange and some kind of batter smell... It's nuts... The big Z has the immediate Skittles blast with a earthy afternote... And the paint is just like the last one and smells real chemical like! When u say the name it makes u smell the paint... Is that just me???? Hahaha anyways... Thats what I got .. everything is going amazing and for day 37 I think they've filled out real nice... Now hopefully they fatten up in the next 20-30 days!!!!
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Day 43 12/06/2021- Beginning of week five of flower. She should be done soon, she will also get her final feeding soon. Day 45 12/08/2021- She got her final top dress today from here on out she is on her own all I will do is water with pain water PH to 6.2-6.8 when dry. Day 47 12/10/2021- She is coming along nicely. Very frosty wish she wasn't a auto so I could of clone her for sure. Today she got a nice treat as it rain in my hometown and that's the water she got. Hoping she is ready by the end of the year. I know she looks funny but she was never topped either. Day 49 12/12/2021- End of the week, nothing new.
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Harvest: Everything dried up to 347 grams + 96 grams of super high quality trim. Overall I am not too pleased with the smoke of the product. Although the bud size, bag appeal, smell and taste are pretty much all there, the shitty burn is a deal breaker for me and the majority of this weed is quite frankly useless. Another downside is while smoking I’ve found 4 seeds in an ounce from almost every strain. Light leaks? At least I learned a ton, including how to get super good burn for my next crop. I’m hoping that curing for a month or so will improve the burn but I wouldn’t really count on it. I have seen weed dried for 4 days with no cure and no flush smoke clean and not go out once. I have been told that the key to white ashes/clean burn is proper mineral content in the soil and there is tons of scientific studies on cigar ash going back 100 years. Plants grown in a medium with high levels of decomposing organic matter, phosphorus, magnesium, chlorine and heavy metal ratio tend to produce black/grey ash. Whereas plants grown in a medium with a higher ratio of trace minerals like calcium carbonate and potassium in the form of wood ash, rock dusts, oyster shell flour and lower levels of decomposing organic matter will produce a dense, uniform white ash that rarely goes out. But this is still all theory until I test it to confirm for myself a few times. My last few outdoor harvests did not improve with curing at all so I’m hoping this will be the missing link. Plain peat moss and coco clearly lack essential minerals that help burn. If said theory is correct I should find a synthetic nutrient line with more trace minerals. Makes me wonder if growing if rockwool/basalt rock could improve burn in a hydro setup. I think I did a fairly decent job for my first grow. I went wrong in a million different places but I still stuck it out and got some decent herb. Things went wrong early when I got black spot mold, nitrogen/magnesium deficiencies and powdery mildew. I corrected most of it but things didn’t get really bad until mid veg when I intentionally skipped a few feedings and defoliated quite heavily stunting the plants. I also didn’t even top or start LST until the 6-9th node which was really stupid and hurt my yield. My temperatures were all over the place from the learning curve. I was severely overwatering without realizing it. 100% peat moss is a shitty medium. I also fed way too late in flower (not what caused shitty burn). I also used synthetic nutrients in soil. Zkittlez bonsai Yield: 1.9g Smell: 7/10 - sweet, candy, berry, gassy, piney hints Bag appeal: 7/10 - slightly leafy/stemy Crystal coverage: 7.5/10 - very impressed Ash: 6/10 - flaky, mostly white/grey Fire holding: 4/10 - stays lit for 10-30 seconds Smoke: 6/10 - taste is decent, needs curing High: 6/10 - indica dom Comment: looks nice, smells nice, tastes nice, burns like shit. 43.5/70 = 62% 👎🗑️ Black Garlic #1 Yield: 53.6 Smell: 8/10 - gassy, piney, earthy, skunky Bag appeal: 7/10 - slightly leafy/stemy Crystal coverage: 7.5/10 - very impressed Ash: 8/10 - thick, uniform white ash Fire holding: 7.510 - stays lit for 45+ sec Smoke: 7.5/10 - taste is good until the end High: 7/10 - sativa dom Comment: looks nice, smells nice, tastes nice, burns great but quite leafy. 52.5/70 = 75% 👍🔥 Black Garlic #2 Yield: 42.3 Smell: 7/10 - woody, earthy, tea Bag appeal: 6.5/10 - slightly leafy/stemy Crystal coverage: 7/10 - impressed Ash: 6/10 - flaky, mostly white/grey Fire holding: 4/10 - stays lit for 10-30 seconds Smoke: 6/10 - taste is decent, needs curing High: 8/10 - sativa dom Comment: looks nice, smells nice, tastes nice, burns like shit. 44.5/70 = 63% 👎🗑️ Zkittlez Yield: 39.4 Smell: 7/10 - sweet, candy, berry, gassy, piney hints Bag appeal: 6.5/10 - slightly leafy/stemy Crystal coverage: 7.5/10 - very impressed Ash: 8/10 - thick, uniform white ashes Fire holding: 8/10 - stays lit for seconds Smoke: 7.5/10 - taste is decent, needs curing High: 7/10 - indica dom Comment: looks nice, smells nice, tastes nice, burns great but smalls didn’t fill out. 51.5/70 = 73% 👍🔥 Blackberry Breath #1 Yield: 57.5 Smell: 9/10 - sweet, grape, berry, gassy, earthy, hashy Bag appeal: 8.5/10 - dense, sparkly buds Crystal coverage: 9/10 - super impressed Ash: 5/10 - flaky, mostly grey/blackish Fire holding: 4/10 - stays lit for 10-30 seconds Smoke: 5/10 - tastes like chalky shit High: 6/10 - indica dom Comment: looks amazing, smells amazing, tastes like shit, burns like shit. 46.5/70 = 66% 👎🗑️ Blackberry Breath #2 Yield: 76.1g Smell: 6/10 - musky, tea, berry, herbal Bag appeal: 8/10 - slightly leafy/stemy Crystal coverage: 7.5/10 - very impressed Ash: 5/10 - flaky, mostly grey/black Fire holding: 4/10 - stays lit for 10-30 seconds Smoke: 5/10 - taste is shit High: 6/10 - indica dom Comment: looks nice, smells shitty, tastes shitty, burns like shit. 41.5/70 = 59% 👎🗑️ Slurricane #4 Yield: 34.5g Smell: 8.5/10 - gassy, deep piney, fuel, earthy, Bag appeal: 8.510 - slightly leafy/stemy Crystal coverage: 7.510 - impressed Ash: 6/10 - flaky, mostly white/grey Fire holding: 4/10 - stays lit for 10-30 seconds Smoke: 6/10 - taste is decent High: 6/10 - indica dom Comment: looks amazing, smells amazing, tastes nice, burns like shit. 46.5/70 = 66% 👎🗑️ Badazz OG Cheese Yield: 43.5g Smell: 6.5/10 - musty, woody, cheesy, piney hints Bag appeal: 6/10 - slightly leafy/stemy Crystal coverage: 6/10 - very impressed Ash: 5/10 - flaky, mostly white/grey Fire holding: 4/10 - stays lit for 10-30 seconds Smoke: 6/10 - taste is decent High: 6/10 - sativa dom Comment: looks like shit, smells decent, tastes decent, burns like shit. 39.5/70 = 56% 👎🗑️
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(Update: 4/20/19) Please stand by while they dry. (Update Everything is going great though! The smell is very strong now; no more cut grass smell. From looking at all three today, I believe that some of the smaller branches will be done drying and ready for trimming and weighing in a day or two. I have one guess for dry weight of Big Lemon, any other guesses?? Remember, the picture of Big Lemon hang drying looks like its two plants, but its all Big Lemon; I had to cut it off to be able to hang it. The amputated branch left of the main plant is bigger than my other two plants alone! (Update 5/2/19) Woah...Okay. So after drying the whole for about nine days, and trimming for four days, Big Lemon's dry weight SO FAR is about 430ish grams of super dense and sticky nugs. Its amazing that I got more big bud than I got popcorn nugs from such a big plant. I have one more 1/2 gal Mason Jar of untrimmed tops to finish, then I'll post pics or a vid of the weigh up and glamour shots etc.. Oh, almost forgot, Little Lemon produced about 40 grams of very nice bud. This surpassed expectations because, although it was planted on the same day as Big Lemon, it was the runt of the bunch because it got pushed out of the main tent that had all the lights and Co2 environment and everything. It spent much of late veg under a very weak light. I remember how limp it was when I gambled on it and chose to switch her over to 12/12. But it was totally worth it in the end! Alight back to work for me. Check back later today for pics, vids! (Final Update: 5219 @11:09pm PT) Its done. Its finally done! I had to trim both plants with my own two hands! So Exhausting, yet so rewarding. So above are several videos of the weighing. Grand total for Big Lemon is 14oz of prime top shelf nugs, and about 3oz of nice popcorn/LARF (they are separated as shown above in a video. Forgive me for not throwing it all together to weigh it, I spent a long, long, very long time trimming and sorting and canning the buds according to their respective grade/quality. I may add one more update to show their respective weights. Oh and little lemon produced about an 1 1/2 oz of prime nuggets and quite a bit of popcorn/LARF, which I haven't gotten around to weighing yet. So, Grand Grand total of Both Lemon OG Candy (amazing job with this beast of a strain, Philosopher seeds) is about 18.5oz, or 1lb 2.5oz for two plants; 15.6oz of which is entirely made up of top-shelf buds 😎 Damn I love SoCal, I didnt even need to run carbon filters because no one be trippin about a lil stink weed. Thanks to those for following this grow! Tell me what yall think! Cant wait to see some comments from all you growers out there. (Update: smoke review after a week or two of cure) This Lemon OG Candy had an extended veg period, about 4 months maybe a little longer, and I harvested her on day 56 of flower (recommended harvest 60-70 days) because of the size/distance to light and her root-bound problems. The results so far, a very uplifting and stimulating quality.
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Día 71 (30/12) Christmas holidays. Only watering Día 72 (31/12) He recibido mi nueva lampara Mars Hydro FC1500 EVO Led Grow Light (2024 NEW FC 1500-EVO Samsung LM301H 150W LED) - https://marshydro.eu/products/fc1500-evo-led-grow-lights/ - https://www.amazon.de/dp/B0CSSGN5D8?ref=myi_title_dp Procedo a instalarla, de modo que tengo la tienda de 120x60 cm perfectamente cubierta con las DOS (2) lámparas FC1500 EVO Es ideal tener dos lámparas, porque así puedo ajustar la distancia a la lampara en función de la altura de capa planta Ajusto ambas lámparas al 75% de potencia (Total 225W), que es más que suficiente para cubrir el área de 120x60 cm Día 73 (01/01) CBD Auto 20:1 #1 - Muestra una ligera deficiencia con algunas puntas de las hojas dobladas hacia arriba y clorosis... Creo que le voy a dar otra ración de BIO PK 5-8 OG Kush Auto - Está apilando cogollos de forma brutal. Increíble el olor y la cantidad de tricomas que está formando 😍 Día 74 (02/01) CBD Auto 20:1 #1 - Se empiezan a formar tricomas entre los incipientes cogollos OG Kush Auto - Una pena que se haya intensificado la deficiencia de CalMag en las hojas, porque los cogollos son gordos y densos, y cubiertos de tricomas Día 75 (03/01) CBD Auto 20:1 #1 - Voy a darle un boost para las 4 semanas que le quedan hasta la cosecha con SILICIUM FLASH Hago un pequeño agujero cerca del tallo, espolvoreo 25g de SILICIUM FLASH en el agujero, lo cubro de tierra. Riego con una solución de 2g de BACTREX por litro de agua. OG Kush Auto - Impresionante densidad de los cogollos que empieza a doblar las ramas 😍 La ventana de cosecha se acerca! 💥 Día 76 (04/01) CBD Auto 20:1 #1 - Investigando me doy cuenta de que lo que le pasa es quemadura de luz, ya que la parte externa de la planta sufre clorosis, y la parte interna (donde no alcanza la luz) está completamente verde Ajusto la lampara sobre esta planta para 40 DLI OG Kush Auto - Sigue poniendo los cogollos duros como rocas y muy llenos de tricomas! 😍💥 Día 77 (05/01) CBD Auto 20:1 #1 - On going OG Kush Auto - Empieza la senescencia en las hojas de abanico, acelerada por la deficiencia de CalMag que ha tenido. 💦Nutrients by Bio Tabs - www.biotabs.nl/en/ 🌱Substrate PRO-MIX HP BACILLUS + MYCORRHIZAE - www.pthorticulture.com/en-us/products/pro-mix-hp-biofungicide-plus-mycorrhizae "GDBT420" 15% DISCOUNT code for the BIOTABS Webshop https://biotabs.nl/en/shop/ With 2 x Mars Hydro FC1500 EVO Led Grow Light (2024 NEW FC 1500-EVO Samsung LM301H 150W LED) - https://marshydro.eu/products/fc1500-evo-led-grow-lights/ - https://www.amazon.de/dp/B0CSSGN5D8?ref=myi_title_dp
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Erntezeit! Getrocknet wurde 9 Tage bei ~55% Luftfeuchtigkeit und 20 grad. Trocken getrimmt. Alle Popcorn nugs und Verschnitt zu Hash weiterverarbeitet.
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Welcome to Week 8 of flower...... The plants have developed a more sour lemon scent. Which is pretty lovely to the nose. Both plants have really nice dense thick buds. Plant 1 is starting to show signs of fall colours. She has always had are lime green colour to her upper leaves. Now a beautiful red colour is appearing on the edges of leaves. Plant 2 the main colas have become so heavy that they are all leaning over. I've started introducing a bit of drought stress. Holding back between waterings. I'm hoping by doing this it will help to kick the girls into overdrive and start using stored sugars. It's seems to be working on plant 1 as the leaves are starting to yellow.
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This little plant is turning out to be some really pretty looking stuff with a great fruit smell like pinnapple and some skunk smell on the back end. The pics don’t do it justice the colors in the calex of the buds is super strong
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**Encontrarás la traducción a español al final de la descripción** From/Desde: 26/04/19 || To/Hasta: 02/05/19 From day/Desde día: 64 || To day/Hasta día: 70 You can find the Money Maker Diary here: ** Podéis encontrar el diario de las Money Maker aquí:** https://growdiaries.com/diaries/25667-gorillamakingmoney-gorilla-vs-money-m -----IMAGES & VIDEOS----- 13 & 15 - Plant with symptoms of an overdose of co2 in the roots, this came from the very beggining of growing 20 - Awesome leaf isn't it 22, 23 & 24 - Buds are forming very awesome. Full of crystals with very beauty pistils 25 - Probably one of the best shots i ever take, i'm in love with this one. -----WEEK SUMMARY----- After defoliation, the buds have started to release crystals in a very massive way, although the nodes of the tails are not growing enough to join with their upper part, but, they are growing a bit and fattening a lot. II'm very amazed with the amount of crystals present in all the leaves, be they small or large. Just touching the surface of any of them your fingers get too sticky. -----WATERING CALENDAR----- I didn't raised the ammount of water this week, i'm watering 1 day and then 2 dry days. This week covers 3 days of watering that's where the increment comes from. 26/04/19 - 1,250 ml with B52, Nirvana, Big Bud, Bud Candy, Rhino Skin & Bud Factor-X @ PH6.4 & 1.2 E.C. 29/04/19 - 1,250 ml with All week nutrients -(Nirvana & Blombastic) also Big Bud half dosed @ PH6.4 & 2.1 E.C. Note: 2.1 E.C is too high for this week, i should be around 1.6 E.C. (I'm testing a thing) 02/05/19 - 1,250 ml with Rhino Skin, Big Bud, Bud Candy, B52, Bud Factor-x, Blombastic, Sensizym & Nirvana @ PH6.4 & 1.5 E.C. *****ESPAÑOL***** -----IMÁGENES Y VÍDEOS----- 13 & 15 - La planta con síntoma de sobredosis de co2 en las raíces, esto viene del principio de la fase de crecimiento 20 - ¿No es una hoja increíble? 22, 23 & 24 - Los cogollos se están formando preciosos, llenos de cristales y con unos pistilos increíbles. 25 - Esta es probablemente una de las mejores fotos que he hecho. A mi me encanta por lo menos. -----SUMARIO SEMANAL----- Después de la defoliación, los cogollos han empezado a soltar cristales de manera muy masiva, aunque los nodos de las colas no están creciendo lo suficiente como para unirse con su parte superior, si están creciendo algo y engordando mucho. No me deja de asombrar la cantidad de cristales presentes en todas las hojas, ya sean pequeñas o grandes. Con sólo rozar la superficie de cualquiera de ellas se te quedan los dedos pegados. -----CALENDARIO DE RIEGO----- No he incrementado la cantidad de riego esta semana, es sólo que han coincidido 3 días de riego y suelen ser 2. Riego día si, 2 no. 26/04/19 - 1.250 ml con B52, Nirvana, Big Bud, Bud Candy, Rhino Skin y Bud Factor-X @ PH6.4 & 1.2 E.C. 29/04/19 - 1.250 ml con todos los nutrientes semanales -(Nirvana & Blombastic) también el Big Bud sólo en media dosis @ PH6.4 & 2.1 E.C. Nota: 2.1 E.C. es muy elevado para esta semana, debería estar alrededor de 1.6 (Estoy probando una cosa) 02/05/19 - 1.250 ml con Rhino Skin, Big Bud, Bud Candy, B52, Bud Factor-x, Blombastic, Sensizym y Nirvana @ PH6.4 & 1.5 E.C.
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Smells on this bud are amazing! Very piney with hints of berries 😋 Not the biggest harvest, but that was expected seeing as this plant was grown in a 1 gal pot. None the less, I am happy with the results 😁
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Growing very well. Just add water. Very easy. The leaves look nice even not too dark green. Did some more defoliation on bottom third of plant. Buds starting to fill in. This lady looks much better than the one on liquid organics
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Ive Been Real Busy Lately.. But Im Still Here... Everything Is Outside Now.. Lost Several Plants Due To Them Being Males...
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Que pasa familia, vamos con la tercera semana de vida de estas Papaya sherbet feminizada de fastbuds. Vamos al lío, de las 3 plantas, me quedaré con 2 por espacio, siempre pongo alguna semilla de más por si no abriese alguna por no perder ese hueco del indoor. También se trasplantaron a su maceta definitiva, en este caso de 7 litros. El ph se controla en 6.2 , la temperatura la tenemos entre 20/22 grados y la humedad ronda el 50%. Hasta aquí todo, Buenos humos 💨💨💨
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Welcome Back!💚 Nach der vierten Woche entwickelt sich die Peach Frosting im Vergleich zu den anderen Pflanzen etwas langsamer, wobei ich die abzeichnunh der Seitentriebe sehr schön finde. Auch bei ihr warte ich definitiv noch mit dem topping, evtl. Bis sie in das Große Zelt umgezogen sind und individueller auf die unterschiedlichen Wachstumsbedingungen der Pflanzen einzugehen. Die Umgebungsgegebenheiten sind weiterhin optimal: ————— 🌞 Temp: 24°C bis 26°C 🌚 Temp: 18°C bis 19°C 💨 RH: 68% VPD: 0,7 kPa👍 ————— Grüne Grüße 🥦
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Well holly shit this plant is huge it’s just keeps getting bigger and bigger I’ve been just feeding with rabbit shit tea and water but mostly water ph to 6.4 I cage her and did a net and then I just did a nother support net I. Probably going to have to do a nother one before it’s said and done she is not showing in signs of flower god knows how long this plant will get it 10ft 2 in right now and growing like crazy So this plant is over the gutter and still showing no signs of flower wow definitely my biggest veg plant I’ve ever grown and it’s probably going to be my biggest yield per plant this plant is 8 ft at it widest point and over 10.5 ft high for me this is just huge I no Cali guys grow much bigger plants then this but over here in Maryland we don’t see shit like this very often if ever so I’m proud of that 😂😂😂 I’m just having a great time this year playing with my marijuana garden I’m hoping for a really great yield All plants hopefully I hit 15 to 20lbs altogether that’s all 11 plants combined weight dry
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Hello my friends 👩‍🌾👨‍🌾, Week was good, nice weather, some days too much hot 🔥, but no rain . I've removed several leaved burned by heat, they was all dried. I've given 1.5l per plant, #1 and #2 1x 1.5l water + canazym + sugar royal #3 2× 1.5l water only 1x 1.5l water + canazym + sugar royal PH @6 Harvest is very close ✂️✂️🌲🌲, I had not yet check trychrome, and as usually I'm in late lol... (See videos) I'll start my flush this week, weather would be nice for the last week, under 30*C with nice sun 😎🌞🌞 and low humidity. See you soon for harvest my friends 👩‍🌾👨‍🌾💕 Thanks for likes, comments and follows 😘
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First feeding of week 3 juste before taking pictures!! 😁🍀✌️ Day 17 one of the gorilla melon looking not really happy after feeding!! She was doing great I don’t really know yet if it’s a deficiency or over feeding but I’ keep an eye on it 💚✌️ Day 18 I accidentally dropped a full bottle of water on my gorilla melon, which split in two at the base and break the pot😭she wasn’t able to stand alone so I hold her luck she continue to grow 🍀💚✌️
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Week 3 of Flowering is here Very excited to start the next week And see the buds Sites expand 👀 Day 15 Critical For weeks I have bin watering when come home and turn lights on . But because I had issues with humidity . I started giving them water in morning when go to work and shut the light off. And i think that worked well . They are looking good and growing nice there some higher buds so it not a even feeld but this my first grow ever . So i am already happy how it is going 🤘🏻🤘🏻 Day 16 Critical FRUIT FLIES !!!! i saw that dam bastards last night so ordered me some fly repellent sticky what ever you call those from Amazon hope they catch them all . Plants are doing fine in my 👀 . I am not giving them water now but in the morning when the lights go out and i go to work . That's all folks Day 17 Critical Did nothing to them only gave them the required nutrients in the morning. Day 18 Cookies Gelato Left them alone today having some personal issues off my own . That makes difficult to work on the plants hopefully tomorrow will be better Day 19 Critical I measured plants today and there about 90 to 95 cm from soil to top. Slitlly getting worried again about hight they are. I hope the grow spurt is over and bud formation will be intensifying . I think if i didn't use any technieks that i would be sol right now . Hope for the best Day 20 Critical Did something stupid today i left the light on for 18 hours and was afraid i fryed them . But luckily nothing dramatic happened . Not hopefully i didn't do much stress on them . I gave all the plants 1L of water pH 6.5 . And start letting them dry out some . Day 21 Critical Last day of week 3 Flowering This week went fast had couple mistake of my own . But luckily my reliable @MarsHydro TS-1000 save me from a catastrophe . I absolutely love the quality that this lamp brings and i am Glad this model has a dimmer . With the baby's is going well nothing going on but goodness
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Today officially starts week 4 of flower.. - The best part of my day is waking at 530am to open my tent and get a big whiff of that beautiful aroma. MMMM. Gave the girls a good watering this morning and picked out some dying vegetation from under the canopy to keep things clean. Humidity is still a bit low, but with all the vegetation in there I don't mind. I'd literally cry if I got bud rot or some crap like that. - I noticed that the critical kush stems seem kind of of flimsy compared to the other strains. No doubt it smells amazing, but as she puts on more weight it's likely to become a problem. Maybe I should consider silica on the next run.?! Of the 3 kiwi skunk phenos, only one seems to be producing any significant tricombs or smell. The other two look as though they will be good yielders, however, I seriously doubt any real potency. - Of the 9 plants I currently have growing, I would expect I'll probably only keep 3, maybe 4. There's no point wasting time on mediocre bud. - I think the pheno hunt is the best part of the growing process. Every seed is like having a new child. Sometimes, they grow up to be such beautiful creatures. Other times, you can tell their clock ain't ticking right. You can end up with fat high powered coals or those small, no good popcorn buds. And, at the end of the day, unlike kids and wives, you can throw them away and not feel sorry for ordering new replacements online when you get tired of their BS. - - - I love that my tent is right next to my desk. It's the best view anyone could ever ask for! 😍 - Went through today and pulled out a small bit of water leaves to increase airflow from the bottom up to the top, as well as to allow the light to reach deeper in to the canopy. I don't get too crazy with the plucking. Only if its covering another cola or overlapping causing moisture to build up on the leaves. It works well, in my case, to keep the humidity down and limits places for any potential pests to hide while flowering. I usually pull out a handful every other day or so. - - Switched my center light (600w) down to 50% (flower spectrum only) on the 28th. With all of my lights on full spectrum, there's more than enough light for the plants (~1200w eq). I noticed new pistils emerging that shouldn't be and I fear it's causing light stress and/or foxtailing to the critical kush, which is directly in the center of the tent. Since it happened on my last grow with the blue dream and it's not inherently genetic, I'll err on the side of caution this time around.