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Gelato #33 the struggle

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6 months ago
VEG
HID / 600W
Custom
FLO
HID / 1000W
Custom
FLO
HID / 600W
Custom
FLO
FL / 13W
(×3) Custom
Custom
Tent
Indoor
Room Type
LST
weeks 14,15
FIMing
week 14
Defoliation
weeks 14,15
Photos & Videos
couple weeks old
couple weeks old
tent white mark
faint wpm in tent seam
tent white dust
wpm on view windo
close up of wpm on tent
Mold or mites2-3weeks ago
Mold or mites?2-3weeks ago
Mold or mites2-3weeks ago
Mold or mites2-3weeks ago
mold or mite webbing2-3 weeks ago
lol training damage and repair, broken 1 month ago
random speck
training accident close up month later
solo fan set up above light hood
Covered up the screw in the training repair.
after soil scrapped of mold
mold 2 days (speedy)
mold 2 days (speedy)
mold 2days(speedy)
mold 1-2daysunsure which plant
mold 1-2 daysunsure
mold 1-2 daysunsure which plant
mold 1-2 daysunsure which
mold 1-2 daysunsure which
mold
mold greyish about size of a dime 1 day ago(princess)
mold 1 day greyish (princess)
room
canopy tempRH 49%
From grow question
From grow question
From grow question
From grow question
Grow Conditions
Week 14
Vegetation
24 hrs
Light Schedule
26
°F
°C
Day Air Temperature
79
°F
°C
Day Air Temperature
5.8
pH
900
mS/cm
PPM
TDS
1.8
mS/cm
PPM
EC
49%
Air Humidity
No Smell
Smell
20
°F
°C
Solution Temperature
68
°F
°C
Solution Temperature
22
°F
°C
Night Air Temperature
72
°F
°C
Night Air Temperature
10
gal
l
Pot Size
37.85
gal
l
Pot Size
30.48
inch
cm
Lamp To Plant Distance
12
inch
cm
Lamp To Plant Distance
1
gal
l
Watering Volume Per Plant Per 24h
3.79
gal
l
Watering Volume Per Plant Per 24h
Nutrients
ml/l
ml/gal
tsp/gal
ml/l
ml/gal
tsp/gal
Grow Technique Usage
LST
Technique
FIMing
Technique
Defoliation
Technique
Commented by Astral Astral
7 months ago

Wondering if i should cut my losses, this is 3rd or 4th time, I've seen mold growing on the surface soil of my babies, originally i had watered with a milk jug, and kinda dug out trenches so i decided id put some fresh promix w/ mychrozziae on top to cover the exposed roots, 3 days later the entire surface was covered in wispy mold, i didn't take a picture, i sprayed with peroxide, and then and removed as much as a could 2-3inches where roots would allow. Then I see a bit of mold pop up by stem on Speedy i did the same thing, then i sprinkled cinnamon on the soil, next day, grey mold on the soil, through a patch of cinnamon lol on princess. I've battled fungus gnats, successfully.

This is my first honest attempt at growing, I've put in a little effort, hard to get everything tied in and climate controlled inside and outside the room. It being especially humid and hot, recently its been stable though for a month if not 2, 26 degrees inside typically dipping to 22 sometimes. and RH 45-55. I've eliminated humidity pockets around the tent, I need to add an additional fan inside the tent. Which i believe is the main contributor to my problem, the lonely box fan in my tent blowing down onto my plants.

I uploaded pictures, that i thought might be mite webbing, that was about 2 weeks ago, and the tent about once every couple weeks gets that white dust looking stuff also pictured above I scrub with 5-10% bleach solution, if i spray it with rubbing alcohol or peroxide it doesn't go away.

I've also been plagued with spots on my plants, leaf damage cuts, holes, discoloration, tip burn

I've scrubbed tent and equipment ive done the tent itself 6-8times with 5-10% bleach solution as a preventive and a clean.

Needless to say its been a battle.

Gelato#33 from crop king on the back says for experienced growers, is it because its a magnet for these things? i tried white banner first, but couldn't get the seeds to pop. is it me? Do i give up on 4 months of time, energy and money, cut my losses try scrubbing things down, and go for a mold resistant strain. That's what I'm leaning towards. But I've also read that not all mold in soil spreads to plants? but my whole time my fear has been smoking moldy weed.

Current set up basics.
4x8 tent 6ft high 192cubic feet
8inch Ac infinity exhaust(807 CFM) without carbon filter 15ft a few bends and vent filters on either end. (https://www.acinfinity.com/blog/how-to-calculate-required-cfm-for-a-grow-tent/)
600w MH air cooled light w/ 6 inch inline fan
1 Box fan blowing down over the light as pictured above
3- 10 gallon fabric pots raised off ground on milk crate/tote lid

Tent Climate:
23-25C
45-55RH
3 of 4 passive vents open
exhaust fan at 6-7speed

Room Climate:
20-25
40-60RH
AC/recently eliminated humidity pockets in closet, and other side of tent

Lights on 24/7 besides semi regular breaks for 1-2hr
Used "cultural practices" to fight the fungus gnats and went from a every second day watering, to when empty typically 5 days between feeds,(as well as neem and sticky traps)
I water 5gallon at a time, with 10-20% run off Run of PH is consistent around 5.6-6, PPM last time was 1400-1600, I had 3 TDS meters, all reading different numbers bought some calibration solution so i know this is accurate at least to 1000ppm, so I'm running high, but besides the mold, the other issues, i haven't been experiencing tip burn like I had, idk yet what that 1500ppm run off is going to mean. Ill go a bit lean next time, bring it down to below 1000

Grow Questions
Astral week 14 started grow question 7 months ago
Contemplating Cannabicide
How do you know when you've failed, and when you should cut your losses? guess my plan tentatively going forward is a vinegar bath for soil, with hydrogen peroxide if i can source it, adding additional intake, and circulation fans in the tent(in 3 days), and a good tent cleaning
Resolved
Other. Bugs
Other. Mold
Other. General questions
Show all Answers (2)
Mr_Weeds_Autos answered grow question 7 months ago
You can give it some Potassium silicate which is used to control certain fungal diseases on high-value crops.
Astral week 15 started grow question 7 months ago
Paging Dr. Greenthumb
Anyone have some experience with mold, is mold in the soil normal? is this something people experience, it feels like a fail to me. What should I be doing? I'm gonna begin supplementing potassium silica as it arrives, and NPK microbes until DGC Recharge.
Thanks
-Astral
Resolved
Other. Mold
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Chucky324 answered grow question 7 months ago
Hello. Yes mold spores are everywhere. They come in on the wind. Hydrogen Peroxide, it doesn't like fungus or bacteria. Please try: 1 ounce of 35% HP to 5 gallons of water. You can mix it a little stronger if you need to, but you can burn your root tips if you make it too strong. The plants love the extra oxygen too. Good Luck. Chuck.
Astral week 15 started grow question 7 months ago
Advice for bottom feeding please
Considering switching to bottom feeding, i think that would mitigate surface mold, any one that uses this already have some advice? I think you don't want it to soak in nutes for more than 5-10min? Feed when the pot gets light? flush 1 a week but i risk mold again
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Feeding. Other
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Astral answered grow question 6 months ago
Will let you know in a couple days how stirring the surface worked if it came back or not
Astral answered grow question 7 months ago
i didn't really think about stirring up the surface, thanks. I'll give that a try that sounds like its gonna work
gmslave answered grow question 7 months ago
If your in fabric planters then it would be a good idea just to make sure the entire medium gets wet. Top feeding leaves dry areas in your fabric planters after they fill with roots. The top mold, algae just rough up the surface a day or two after watering. Cheers friend
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