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weeks 4-7, 9-10
Coco Coir
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Mr_Incognito Mr_Incognito
a year ago
Day 50: There are so many renovations being made outside the box! Was even thinking of CO2 implementation with yeast and sugar, but it will be totally useless because of the powerful duct fan Iโ€™m using. Whatever ppm CO2 can yeast provide, the gas will be sucked out of the box within a minute. Need extremely large bucket of brew to give a little bit overall. The same story with CO2 cylinders, but also more dangerous in my conditions. Day 51: Gonna make 2 clones right before the lights go off. Will cut the lowest branches that are completely off the pace in comparison with others. I made a quite unpleasant discovery few days ago. Grow component was probably stored for quite a long period in cold conditions. It caused sedimentation of a fraction with Calcium. At first glance I thought thatโ€™s my mistake (remembering the accident when I used Bloom syringe to take Grow). There were just traces of Bloom on the needle, and I had doubts that it could be the cause. I threw out almost empty bottle, where I noticed the issue and bought the new one. Poured it into the glass jar immediately after opening, and noticed the same sediments floating in liquid, some left on the inner surface of the bottle. Luckily I have a magnetic stirrer! Took out some volume to avoid pouring out through the lid. Stirring for two hours dissolved all the sediments making the Grow component look like emulsion, which I assume is supposed to be, since there are extra Ca additives for Coco substrate (Iโ€™m using DualPart Coco). Recent sings of Ca deficiency which I had to compensate with CalMag is probably another proof of this theory. Will stir the rest of the volume left in bottle today and let it sit until next use. Hope next time just shaking will be enough ๐Ÿ™ƒ. Will not change fertiliser brand or anything. I love T.A. nutrients! Itโ€™s amazing stuff. They are super concentrated and not much volumes needed to achieve great results. Just need to admit that โ€œshaking well before each useโ€ may not be enough sometimes. Works only if the fertiliser was stored properly from the date of manufacturing till the moment it was sold to the end customer. It doesnโ€™t always happen in real world haha ๐Ÿ˜›. Temperature stays at incredibly stable 23-24 (73-75 F) degrees Celsius during the day, and 21-22 (70-72 F) degrees at night. Relative humidity doesnโ€™t go higher than 55%. After the last defoliation and few renovations it stays at 50-53% day / 50-55% night. Runoff ppm stays at EC 1.7 (860 ppm) for two days with inflow EC 2.1 (1040-1050). Runoff pH is also stable 6.1-6.2, inflow pH 5.5-5.8 (morning-evening). Thatโ€™s cool! I will not raise concentration to get runoff EC 1.8-1.9 (900-950 ppm). It should up by itself tomorrow after todayโ€™s pruning. Day 53: So much work to do. I even forgot to take a picture. New clones are planted into rock wool cubes with root riot. Should work well. I donโ€™t have Clonex or any other rooting gel with hormones. Using Root Booster from T.A. only. Solution EC is 0.13 (65 ppm, x0.5 scale), pH 5.6. The older clones are facing huge Fe deficiency. I messed up pH when planting them into small rockwool cubes. Simply forgot to presoak them in pH 5.0, used pH 5.5. And I didnโ€™t measure pH of the drained moisture, relying on my feeling. I suppose pH in the small cubes was much higher than 5.5 the day after I planted the clones. Then I was struggling with EC, found controversial articles suggesting different concentration. I even poured 300 ppm into the cubes thinking 60 ppm of Root Booster was not enough. Well, then I flushed the cubes with EC 0.12 (60 ppm, x0.5 scale), pH 5.3 Root Booster again to get back. I moved the entire box a bit away from the wall to use the duct exit that is located much closer to the chimney. Replaced the 125 mm one with a 150 mm flexible hose. Removed two 150 mm intake hoses, attached the black light-proof prefilter material to the rectangular intake window (17x40 cm) with velcros. Made it three layers. Light can be barely seen from outside the box during the lights are on. Itโ€™s pretty dark inside the room as well. I hope for no light leaks. Easy to clean this material with vacuum cleaner. Suction force is good, the air takes much shorter way to leave the box. ScrOG wood frame is prevents the walls from being โ€œsucked inโ€. Temps are 23/20.5 degrees Celsius day/night. Humidity is 50-55%. Removed all timers and most of the wires out from the box. Mounted them on the wall. Preparing to move the tank out also. Day 54: 5 of 8 small clones rooted ๐Ÿ˜ The last two big clones that took 2 days ago are looking good, but no roots yet. Day 55: 7 of 8 small clones rooted. Preparing coco/perlite for transplanting. Day 56: 8th clone doesnโ€™t show roots yet. Probably thatโ€™s the one I forgot about when putting into rockwool. It was left without water for a minute. Will wait two more days. Defoliation done. Removed a lot of leaves and pruned. Accidentally lollipopped her. Will give her two days of rest and flip into 12/12. EC in runoff increased rapidly right after I covered all small holes in the slab that could possibly cause some salt build up on the surface due to evaporation. Also the plant surely reduced nutrient uptake after heavy defoliation. Inflow: EC 2.3 (1150 ppm), pH 5.6 Runoff: EC 1.8 (920 ppm) --> 2.09 (1044 ppm), pH 6.4
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Grow Questions
Mr_Incognito
Mr_Incognitostarted grow question a year ago
I know that some bumps are pretty normal for stem. One is between 5th and 6th node, 20 cm above the surface. Itโ€™s a bit dark which makes me worry. Another two are located higher. Can it be rot stem? Chances to survive? Fungicide needed? The plant doesnโ€™t look sick at the moment.
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Sciolistic_Steveanswered grow question a year ago
https://www.gardeningknowhow.com/edible/vegetables/tomato/white-growths-on-tomato-plants.htm i'd wager it;s similar to this. Are they hard little bumps? if tehy don't easily rub off (compared to adventitious roots), i'd wager it's not fungal or microbial cuases and moe likely just a little oddity in the plant... maybe high RH in these faily dark areas? any condensation at night? dark and moisture will cause roots to form... even if above ground. if it is clearly superfical and growig on the plant vs growing out of it, then take some h2o2 and rub it off. 3%, undiluted. satuate area.. might discolor it a bit but it will not kill the plant or limb. if they are hard nodules, i'd ignore them, though. fungus creates a mycelium network below surface.. so cleaning surface does not "clean" the plant of fungus. it's still there. you just can't see the parts that remain. this is why bud washing WPM-infected buds doesn't do what ppl think... bud washing can clear off stuff from surface, but will not rid the plant of an infection that involveds anything below the surface.
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NegotiatedBubble
NegotiatedBubbleweek 10
Excellent notes!
Mr_Incognito
Mr_Incognito
@NegotiatedBubble, Thank you! Will try my best to keep it updated well.
Tremojem
Tremojemweek 9
Hey Brother, just wanted to say that I took a look at your history of grows and see you started with fabric pots, then an Airpot, then to what is now the reason for my inquiry. What is your latest grow? I tried to enlarge your pics to decipher your methodology. Here is what I came up with. Please correct me and hey if you like, go ahead and share a high level summary of your growing methodology and reasoning for changing your approach. By the way, this is all good!!! I too am growing, learning, and see changes in my growing methodology future as well. Okay, back to my analysis. Looks like you have the following things going on. 1) Coco/Perlite Mix 2) Drip watering system 3) Runoff capturing system 4) Cover over top of Coco (not sure) The cover is confusing me as I can't determine what it is and used for. Maybe assist in moisture retention or pest control, but then it doesn't fit with drip, as it would restrict water from evenly distributing across the substrate. Anyway, love your progress and journey, please share your thoughts when responding. Thanks Brother
Mr_Incognito
Mr_Incognito
@@Tremojem, youโ€™re welcome ๐Ÿ˜‰ Nice to meet someone with the same level of dedication to growing!
Tremojem
Tremojem
@Mr_Incognito, I cannot thank you enough for the complete and concise response. Very good information there. It leads me down a path that includes more research for me. I am always trying to learn even if I have no intention on pursuing that or any path. All of the information is, in some small way, related and there are bits that overlap and that leads to more understanding of the BIG picture and helps in preparing for a better and more successful grow. I am truly interested in Coco, Hydro and Living Soil. But as you move into those three areas of growing methodology you invite more opportunities for errors unless you know what your doing. So it is best to take baby steps, research, discuss and learn, then step/repeat the aforementioned steps in an effort to prepare yourself for the journey with intent on success. But if growing in soil has any benefit, it is that it sparks your interest in always improving and doing better. Thank you again, and I will be following you. I cannot wait to start a drip system as it has been forward in my thoughts for some time along with Autopot. Good on you for knowing what a drip rate is. I have interest in a drip system that utilizes gravity for feed and switching timers for cycling. Multiple cycles at the rate I choose. Love this stuff. Be healthy and happy Brother.
Mr_Incognito
Mr_Incognito
@@Tremojem, thanks for asking :) I started my first diary with quick auto, soil and pH perfect nutes because I was very short on time. Also I wanted to restore some of my knowledge and experience from the past. Just to get some yield of good looking buds, no matter what is the strain. It was a magical experience, so many busy days and nights, and extreme challenge with security. Luckily all went perfect, and the buds were amazing despite of the claimed low-level THC. Excellent smoke. Then I got a possibility to make another grow where I chose to go 4 plants at once. I couldn't find fabric pots, that's why I chose airpots. They were good, although I had difficulties with focusing well on the growing process. My latest grow is Coco/Perlite 60/40. This time I wanted to go hydroponics in rockwool as I did long time ago. Unfortunately horticultural slabs were not available and the only option left for me to go pure hydro was coco. So: 1) Coco/Perlite Mix 60/40 % 2) Drip watering system. First I started with Arduino-based irrigation system with a cheap pump from Aliexpress and solid state relay. It worked well until the pump died unexpectedly (hahaha). I was struggling with the same model replacement one, but luckily I got Kamoer X1, and I'm really happy with it. 3) I collect runoff in the plastic container. Was trying hard to collect it almost every watering to react quicly if something goes wrong. Last week I changed my mind, just to have some rest. I made a DIY Coco slab, that is often used in commercial grows. The cover is used to retain water, the same as with rockwool. Such porous substrates are drying out too fast. I really don't like salt buildup in any kind of substrate. Less or none flushing needed during the whole grow in this case. The cover helps to keep coco/perlite mix evenly moist. The tubes end with small T-shape splitters and are lying on the substrate, just touching it. There's no issue with water distribution in coco with low speed flow. To help water distribute even better I intentially reduced the number and the size of drainage holes. They are made right in the corners of the container at 45 degrees angle, just 4-5 mm diameter. The solution retains longer and runoff is pretty slow. That helps to wash out any salt build up. Fast drainage would be less effective. With 48 ml/min flow rate it works even better, but probably there is higher loss of water during runoff collecting because of evaporation. I put the slab on the set of tube pieces to position the center of the slab a bit higher than sides. The same method is often used with rockwool in horticulture, but there special W-shape trays are used for that. I surely miscalculated few things like the volume of the substrate. I'm using just 8 litres of mix. Didn't expect to stay in Veg for so long, but now I'm very happy that I let her grow for so long. I spent a lot of time trying to catch the ideal spot between inflow and runoff. Was underfeeding her for long. Reduced Nitrogen levels from week 2 of Veg, because it seemed to me that I noticed some toxicity signs. Later I discovered lots of sediment in the Grow component. Probably it made NPK ratio wrong from the very beginning. Well, even with less N she performed really well in Veg. Now she's in perfect spot. Inflow is a little bit higher than runoff, and the gap is reducing. Runoff percentage is 12-15 % at the moment. WIll increase when runoff EC goes higher than inflow. Before that I will just play with inflow EC. She's a heavy feeder with pure Indica appetite :) She handles EC 2.3 easily and drinks more and more as the stretching continues. Probably she will hit 4 litres per day soon in 24-25 degrees and 55% relative humidity (VPD 1.31-1.39). I use a lot of hydrogen peroxide to treat algae near the drainage holes. A bit worried about the taste in the future, but not much :) Will flush it one week before harvest.
Maryjane23
Maryjane23week 12
Niente male!!!! Si stanno formando dei bei fiorellini
Mr_Incognito
Mr_Incognito
@Maryjane23, thank you! Hopefully will get to the finish with no issues๐Ÿคž
Tremojem
Tremojemweek 9
Dude, I love your grow and the spreadsheet is fucking killer. I have to now incorporate that into my methodology. I made spreadsheets to capture all of my data. But now its time to put the data into a tool that provides useful information that results in real progress. Its a journey for sure and its easy to miss things on the fly. But using accurate data can really step it up for newbies. I imagine any longtime successful grower would laugh at me for my excitement over data, but they would be in a different league than I, having many years and grows behind them. I am only on grow 4...LOL!!!
Mr_Incognito
Mr_Incognito
@@Tremojem, Thanks dude! Data processing really helps me to understand and witness the progress since I have some scientific background. I'm keen on visualizing data. Surely some growers will say it's nonesence. I don't mind :) My goal is to make the process fully visible, tracking all important factors that have impact on the grow. Helping someone else to understand plant's behaviour and lifecycle makes me happy. I would love to contribute to the growing society and help people to see what's hidden behind the scene. Lots of important things are often missed, and as a result people (including me) sometimes read plants wrong way, thus making wrong decisions.
Cannapopz
Cannapopzweek 6
Looks Amazing Bro ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
Mr_Incognito
Mr_Incognito
@Cannapopz, thank you ๐Ÿ˜Š
Growtroll
Growtrollweek 1
Good luck with grow mate!๐Ÿ˜€ Wish you a strong grow with heavy yields!๐Ÿ’ช๐Ÿ’ช
love_2_grow
love_2_growweek 0
Happy Growing, Buddy! ๐ŸŒฑ๐ŸŒฑ๐ŸŒฑ