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uTech420 uTech420
4 years ago
Here we are, at week 4 of flowering! Ladies are focused on fattening their nugs :) I upgraded my lights to 400W and also got a bigger reflector from adjust to accompany my bulb. They like it a lot and it was definitely needed for the space they have now. Trichomes are turning orange (I would say that we are at 10%) and sugar leafs are growing fast. Had a look with the microscope in calyx and they are crystal clear. I would say we need 3-4 weeks before harvest! Both look very healthy and I m very pleased with their progress so far. Specially if you consider that they grew up in a 60x60 tent under a 250W lamp... I keep lollipopping and clearing any new vegetation in order to drive all their energy to the top nugs. I m very curious to see their final stage though. It seems that we will get some nice fat nugs out of the 4 main branches but I m also expecting to get some popcorns as well from the inner stems. We will see! Next grow will be a bit different... Now with the new setup I m looking forward to go for 8 main colas which would give some fat nugs and no popcorns :P PS: they are heavy drinkers... 3L every 3rd day is still not enough! They get hungry by the end of the 2nd day!
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uTech420
uTech420started grow question 4 years ago
Hello fellow growers! First timer here. Noticed salt residues on top of leafs (D19 pics). They come from the mist maker who controls humidity levels 1) How to treat their leafs? 2) a tap water filter will improve the situation or salts are normal? Peace! ๐Ÿ‘Š
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GDub51
GDub51answered grow question 4 years ago
HI! My tap water is over 550ppm (parts per million) TDS.! VERY HARD! If you don't have a Total Dissolved Solids (TDS) meter you need one. As well as a PH meter for measuring feed water. Less than $40 for both. As a first-timer, your plants can only eat so much after which they suffer from overeating in what we call "Locke out ". Your water has residual solids (rainwater in the single digits up to like my tap water at over 550ppm. Cannabis needs little food provided to seedlings then progressively more thru the veg cycle and even more at flowering. You will find suggestive charts easily. I blend rainwater with filtered aged tap water to make what we call "constructed water". Then add whatever fertilizer/food to that until I'm at the appropriate level of Total Dissolved Solids for that stage of the plant's evolution. The "salts" you mention are dried solids from the mist, evocative of HARD water. Hard water limits the supplements you can add before you reach "lockout" where the plant can eat no more and suffers. Keep you mist water and feed water to within the TDS levels appropriate and you won't see residue on the leaves. Instead, you'll be maxing out your plant's possibilities!
uTech420
uTech420started grow question 4 years ago
Building up an idea of a growing automation targeted in our girls ๐Ÿ˜Ž I invite anyone who wants to share his setup and "controllers" in my diary. Share thoughts, exchange ideas and "profiles/schedules" you have used in order to get the most out of our beauties! ๐Ÿ‘Š
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deFharo
deFharoanswered grow question 4 years ago
Creo que las tablas de EC sรณlo sirven como guรญa inicial y depende del tipo de fertilizante, con tus niveles de EC fertilizantes de sรญntesis quรญmica, altamente solubles, pueden quemar las plantas rรกpidamente por bloqueo de sales en el sustrato, dependiendo mucho de la composiciรณn de este sustrato. Mis niveles de EC actuales son comparables a los de tu tabla, y podrรญan ser mucho mayores, pues uso fertilizantes propios, solubles y de lenta liberaciรณn (Sรณlidos y lรญquidos), de origen 100% orgรกnico y mineral, el sustrato lo mantengo con microorganismos, esto hace que el poder de amortiguaciรณn frente a bloqueos es mucho mayor comparado con los fertilizantes de sรญntesis. Cuando la planta no puede absorber todos los nutrientes de un riego orgรกnico, los restos se incorporan al sustrato como materia orgรกnica, enriqueciendo aun mรกs la tierra y aportando alimento constante a los MM. Al comienzo de mis cultivos orgรกnicos me quedaba muy preocupado al ver que los niveles de EC en el agua escurrida en el plato no bajaban de EC 3.0 y bla, bla, bla, a pesar de eso las plantas no presentaban bloqueos, hoy los niveles de EC del agua sobrante en el plato alcanzan medidas de EC entre 3.0 y 6.0 y los cultivos avanzan sin problemas porque ese alto valor de EC solo quiere decir que el suelo estรก principalmente mineralizado y con materia orgรกnica en descomposiciรณn, lo que ocurre es que en cultivos orgรกnicos la liberaciรณn lenta de nutrientes y minerales trabajando en conjunto con la capacidad de la planta de seleccionar los nutrientes para cada momento hacen que los niveles de EC en este caso haya que tratarlo de otra manera. Con fertilizantes de sรญntesis quรญmica obligamos a la planta a tragar inmediatamente los nutrientes altamente solubles, compuestos principales de sales, cuando la planta no puede tragar mรกs los restos se quedan como sales y van colapsando el sustrato y la capacidad de absorciรณn de la planta. Los niveles de PH son importantes para mi y nunca obtengo un PH en el agua escurrida mayor de 6.8, me gusta regar con valores mรกs รกcidos de PH entre 6 y 6.4 para todas las etapas de cultivo, a los cultivos puramente orgรกnicos con MM les gustan los suelos รกcidos y ademรกs un suelo sano regula el PH segรบn sus necesidades. Y tambiรฉn los niveles de EC van a depender de la calidad del agua, en mi caso recojo agua de lluvia que mezclo (al 25%) con agua muy mineralizada de manantial, de esta manera me aseguro del aporte de calcio (esta agua es alcalina con PH de 9.2. Mucho carbonato cรกlcico) y otros minerales, consigo asรญ unos niveles de EC en el agua de 0.2. Yo mantengo un seguimiento pormenorizado de mis cultivos y de todas las acciones relacionadas, luces, riegos, nutrientes, recetas, gasto de luz, etc, etc., mantengo esa informaciรณn actualizada en un libro de excell que tengo en Google Docs, si alguien estรก interesado honestamente en cultivos orgรกnicos caseros y preparaciรณn de sustratos, hidrolizados, humatos, bioles, etc. hechos con residuos y etc. puedo darle permiso de lector para consultar mi libro de excell y compartir experiencias. No se cual serรก la mejor manera de pasarnos los emails para poder yo dar acceso al Excell. Saludos ๐Ÿ˜œ
uTech420
uTech420started grow question 4 years ago
Can anyone tell if I topped or fimmed this lady here? I wanted to top but... think I missed it... If missed, should I cut further down in order to top?
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Ttrichome
Ttrichomeanswered grow question 4 years ago
Looks like a fim to me as I see 3 growth tips up top there. But could be my stoned squinty eyes. I wouldn't recommend going right at her with another topping attempt right away. Give her 4-5 days to bounce back. Once u see her growth pick back up. She will than be ready for another topping. Every pheno bounces back in there own time. Watch for her growth to normalize again... than give her another go if u truly dont like the outcome of ur fim. Hey u might like the result u get from the fim. Happy growing and stay lit fam.
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uTech420
uTech420week 1
Now that both seeds sprouted I took them out of the tent for an hour in order to catch some natural light and also get some fresh air. Moist feed them with 125ml each of PHd(6.0) water and 2ml/L root-juice! Moist applied on the outer of the pot and sides of jiffy. Also placed a small plastic cup above the sprouts to avoid direct contact with water :)
uTech420
uTech420
@Green_Dream, thanks for the tip dude! I also came upon a diary where the plants got a pest from getting outside for some hours... So I did not try it again :)
Green_Dream
Green_Dream
@uTech420, Itโ€™s nice you give them natural light, but... Every time you give them different light they have to adjust, and that becomes a stress factor. So I believe itโ€™s better to just leave them under the lamp ๐Ÿ˜‰
uTech420
uTech420week 4
Ok, seems that our naughty girl is fimmed and not topped... That does not go well with my OCD... things need to get right! If there were like 4 new ones I might accepted it... But 3? No, have some other plans for her!
Green_Dream
Green_Dream
@uTech420, ๐Ÿ˜†
uTech420
uTech420week 1
Yo all โœŠ I had to leave for the weekend and girls were left alone... This time I fucked it up a bit since I did not get into account the room temperature... House was closed for the weekend and temperature rised! For 2 days girls were having a sunbath at 30-32 Celsius and 50-55 RH... When got back I did not know what to expect but to my surprise girls showed huge progress and the got some height and also showed up their first pair of leafs! Soil was dry and I misted them again. Around 125ml each with 2ml/L root-juice. Also raised my lights at 80cm from canopy. Grow conditions back in normal at 26-27 Celsius and 60-70 RH ๐Ÿ’ช We are back in the game! ๐Ÿ‘Œ
uTech420
uTech420week 1
Holla fellow growers! We are heading towards the end of first week and I already had a taste of the anxiety feeling regarding our growing babies. At first I was not even sure about them... If I planted them ok, if I water them ok etc... Well Barney's did a good job on the seeds and after 80hours from plant both seeds came out :) So, these are good news! Today I will mist them once more and also feed them with a small dosage of root-juice! I will also change my light schedule to 18-6 Peace y all! stay safe and keep grow!
uTech420
uTech420week 3
@GDub51 and @@@@NobodysBuds thank you both for the answers regarding the residues guys! Now to the point. My climate control setup consists of a set of custom electronics that I have programmed to control the mist maker, ventilation, fan and lights depending on a temperature and humidity sensor which is placed above the canopy. Only "sophistication" up to now is that I m following the VPD table regarding humidity control and I replace the air every second minute. Regarding feeding I went by the full class of Biobizz and follow their nutrient guide for fullmix soil - cutted in half for now. Normally, my solution consists of boiled tap water which rests for couple of hours. Then I add the nutrients and then I ph the whole solution together. So anything that goes in soil is PHd. I have already ordered a TDS because I had doubts of my feed schedule and how much do they need as GDub51 mentions. Apparently there is no PPM reference in biobizz schedule but I will try to cross check it with some generic ec vs growth charts I found. My main concern is the mist and the humidity levels... As we speak I need about 10 liters of water every 36 hours to keep my RH into correct VPD values - provided that I recirculate the air every second minute... There is no way to have that amount of RO or rain in the mist tank... So it is easy to say that I need to soften my tap water. Not sure if a simple filter will do the job though. Any recommendations? Please dont go to reverse osmosis at home cause of the money needed... Do you believe that as soon as I use RO for the soil and I keep washing them once a week from the mist residues until I find a way to soften my water, that they will be ok? Unfortunately I dont have the experience to evaluate the severance of residues in leaves. Sorry for the long answers and thank you again for you time and answers! Nobody01 - ultrasonic humidifier is custom as well so I will go through the idea of pushing the mist up and then fan it to plants and see if it reduces the residues problem but I dont see that happen tbh! PS: Without having a TDS meter at hand I see from online tables that the region here is at 150PPM with a maximum of 250... That does not add up to the residues and hardness of water. Need to verify the values with a meter.... Though residues are coming from the tap water and the mist tank. DEFO! I see them on the mist tank, in the tent - everywhere
GDub51
GDub51
@uTech420, I have seen RO units that produce about 10 gal. / day for under $100. My filters both carbon and ionic are a failure in dealing with hard water. I'll probably spring for an RO unit this year. I'll report on it's usefulness and efficacy. Have no way to know how much organic food the plants are getting. Following instructions as provided, but most of organic is guess work. Hard to burn with organic's? Well, they burn up my cash pretty quick. Almost 3 times chemical cost not to mention the extra hardware (bubbler, pump, air stones, buckets etc) So it's still under $200 a year plus water. So whatever proves out , it will be the result that commands.
GDub51
GDub51
@uTech420,My constructed water will run out of its reserve rainwater soon. Carbon filters will do nothing for TDS. One needs an Ion filter. I found one that was affordable and will report back when I start using it. I've battled with over 550ppm tap water limiting what I can feed my grow. By the way uBud, I am not sure why you boil your water? a day of outdoor exposure for your tap water will off-gas the chlorine quite well. Save the energy.
uTech420
uTech420
@@NobodysBuds, bro you burned me for a moment but you gave me another idea...! Turning down the duty cycle of the humidifier to 1/5th of what it is will cause instability to RH and then VPD will be out of range and blah blah... BUT! To compensate I could reduce my air circulation to once every 10 minutes and that would compensate the reduced cycle of the humidifier! Also it would help keeping noise levels down. Though CO2 levels will drop... Hmmm... this just add a CO2 sensor in the platform ๐Ÿ˜Ž
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Green_Dream
Green_Dreamweek 8
Your girls look great, you did such a good job training them! ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ Just keep doing what youโ€™re doing and keep humidity low and good airflow from now on ๐Ÿ˜‰
uTech420
uTech420
@Green_Dream, check your private msgs! I m very into LEDs for my next grow but planning to build my own fixture! I m targeting for some really high end light system with full control of current driving ;)
Green_Dream
Green_Dream
@uTech420, Great choice for the tent! ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ˜ I would strongly recommend you buying a LED lamp. I can show you where I got mine from Hongkong(Meiji). With a 250w led(costs ca. 200โ‚ฌ) you can get as much dry buds as you would get with a 400w HPS. And if you really wanna go wild you put bath a 250w led and your 250w HPS in your new tent ๐Ÿ˜‰ But then you definitely have to have lights on at night, cuz your tent will warm up your whole house ๐Ÿ˜„
uTech420
uTech420
@Green_Dream, hey bro! How is going? Thanks for good words :) The truth is that so far I enjoyed stretching them under the net and trying to picture them in my mind of how they should be :P Humidity is running at low 40s during day cycle and low 50s during night so I believe I m ok with that! I was really scared of them stretching even more and reaching too close to the lights. That would be a disaster... I had to act and I decided to do an early upgrade on my setup! I went ahead and bought a decent tent :P Secret Jardin Dark Room V3 was what I picked with dimensions of 1.20m x 1.20m x 2.00m !!! I got it yesterday and spend a full day preparing their new mansion! I m gonna update my GD today with picks and details. In short, they now have plenty of space :) I got them stretched even more and did a proper cleaning! Stay tuned for the update! Question: Should I replace my HPS lamp with a 400w one? I m running on a 250w as we speak but I feel like the 400w would be a better choice now that they got more space!
uTech420
uTech420week 3
D16 and topped... tell me that I was not too soon. Soon is sure... but too soon? Did I killed my ladies and wont see big fat buds or they will be fine? :P what you guys think?
uTech420
uTech420week 2
Ending of D1W2 and I already messed it up... ๐Ÿ˜ฑ After misting each lady with 100ml of plain water (PH 6.0) I reconfigured my fan in order to "giggle" them... hmm... that did not go very well.... Air was too much for one of them and she had dropped dead! I needed a CPR to recover at first... Then I started doing some gymnastics on her stem to bring her up! That went quite well I can say! In order to support her for the first hours I made a small pyramid with soil at the base of the stem and also placed a plastic cup above her. Finally I cleaned her leafs from excess water drops and some soil... I hope that she will recover and turn her leafs back up!
uTech420
uTech420week 1
Holla fellow growers! End of week 1 for my ladies and everything run smooth. Considering that this was the seedling week we have already got 5cm height and the second set of leafs are showing up! Also the stem has turned into purple/brown (that's good, right?) Over this first week girls have been treated only with a small amount of root-juice (2ml/l) and PHd (6.0) water. In total I have mist about 350-400 ml in each pot and have also used another 500ml (each) when preparing my pots and jiffys! Hopefully, over the next week we will double our height, grow our second set of leafs and start seeing the 3rd. Once we get there, I will start feeding for growing and also plan my LST and topping ๐Ÿ’ช๐Ÿ™ Again if any of you has a comment or a suggestion regarding my progress and "tactics", it is more than welcome! Dont forget that it is my first ever grow and I m trying to adjust to all the information I m getting regarding growing our beloved fruits ๐Ÿ˜‹
Green_Dream
Green_Dreamweek 2
They look great! ๐Ÿ‘ They keep growing during the night hours, that growth hasnโ€™t been exposed to light yet, so thereโ€™s less chlorophyl in the leaf, hence the light green color. Try to check them out right before lights out. The color should be more uniform ๐Ÿ˜‰
Green_Dream
Green_Dream
@uTech420, Tbh I havenโ€™t done that much research into temperature and humidity. I just know that they like higher humidity in veg. The main concern for me is to avoid fungus and root rot. And the best way to do that is to have good air ventilation with fresh air. And low humidity, especially at the end of flowering when the buds get thick ๐Ÿ˜ Fungus is such a nasty thing!!! I try to keep temps between 20-25.
uTech420
uTech420
@Green_Dream, indeed man! Girl showed some strength there :) FYI, I was looking more into the VPD table and how it affects plant growth! Apparently I found some more detailed tables which have different curves for propagation/vegetation/flowering. These value come closer to what you suggested about 50s RH and 25-26 temperatures during flowering! What is more interesting though is that I found a guy who did some experiments and he verified that running among the VPD curve measured higher Co2 consumption rates than when running below or above the curve. Effectively that proves the theory of the stomata activation and it should boost plants metabolism! We will see ๐Ÿ’ช
Green_Dream
Green_Dream
@uTech420, Luckily they are so good to jump back on track! ๐Ÿ˜ƒ๐Ÿ˜‰
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Green_Dream
Green_Dreamweek 1
Keep the vent on at all times, it will prevent them from over stretching, and the light can also go down to 60cm from them ๐Ÿ˜‰
uTech420
uTech420
@Green_Dream, I ve been thinking of this option but I m not really sure if the girls will like it. If I run my day cycle during the night hours this will drop my temperatures for sure. The thing is that the "day" temperatures will be very close to "night" temperatures and I m not sure if this is good. I would expect that they would like to understand a temperature difference at night. I will have to search more for this. As for humidity, to my understanding is a temperature dependent factor. Plants will follow our day/night cycle in order to grow and this cycle massively affects temperatures also! Now, according to VPD table we need to keep a sweet balance between temperature/humidity at any given time in order to optimize the functioning of plant's stomata. Humidity ranges of 50 would imply a temperature of 23 Celcius! Thats not going to happen during a day cycle over the summer period no matter what! Correct me if I m wrong but to my mind, humidity does not have to do with the grow stage of the plant but only with the temperature. We are saying that we need high values of RH when plants are small because we are trying to simulate the ultimate nature conditions possible. In nature you want to grow when whether is still hot and days are long in order to help the plants get big. As time goes by, day cycle shortens thus bringing temperatures lower. This is what triggers the flowering to the ladies!
Green_Dream
Green_Dream
@uTech420, Once u switch to 12/12, run the light cycle at night, that way you can balance things out... that is if you have a window of course... but I guess also in general. I wouldnโ€™t worry of humility at 50... itโ€™s more important to keep it low in bloom.
uTech420
uTech420
@Green_Dream, I was reading that is good to refresh the air once every minute. Based on that I have the vent running for a minute every second minute. There is also a hook that is temperature dependent. So if temperature goes above a max threshold then vent kicks in until temperature drops down again to the desired levels. The thing here is that if I leave vent constantly on, humidity levels drop low (around 50s). Then humidifier works overhours to compensate and the system never comes to balance. Having a vent cycle helps controlling the environment. At least this is what I can say from my logs so far :) Now the lights... Ambient temperature during the day is about 23-24 Celsius and as the summer is getting closer they are expected to rise... Right now, if I get down to 55-60cm then things start to get hot. I m getting temperatures of 30-32 Celsius at canopy level which does not feel right. I m expecting an air-conditioning to be installed in the room in the coming days as a precaution measure and also a second vent to be used for intake. Right now intake is passive. I hope that by switching to an active intake will improve my "cooling capabilities" and will be able to lower my lights! Any thoughts here are always welcome! ๐Ÿ‘
Green_Dream
Green_Dreamweek 3
Nice! ๐Ÿ‘
Green_Dream
Green_Dream
@uTech420, How cool would that be! ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ‘
uTech420
uTech420
@Green_Dream,thanks dude! They grow nice and fast! Lets see how they progress! By the way... You should have been my neighbor instead ๐Ÿ˜…
Green_Dream
Green_Dreamweek 11
How are does buds doing?
uTech420
uTech420
@Green_Dream, hey dude! My daily routine has kept me away from my diary but girls are doing just fine! Hopefully I have 1-2 weeks before harvesting :) Drying and curing are coming up and I getting ready for it!
Green_Dream
Green_Dreamweek 9
Congrats with the new tent! How are the girls coming along?
uTech420
uTech420
@Green_Dream, hey bro! Things are moving along for my girls! They definitely like the new set up and they show it :) I did not have the time for a proper update over the past two weeks but I just made it! Check them out ;) How you see them? Are we getting the 100g (dry) goal I have set? ๐Ÿ˜Ž
Green_Dream
Green_Dreamweek 7
Good luck with flowering! ๐Ÿ€
uTech420
uTech420
@Green_Dream, thank you bro! Growing was in auto so far with just some training... Lets see how flowering will go :) I m worrying a bit for my temperatures since the weather here is getting really hot... I m touching 30s during the day cycle... We will see! Are you taking a break because of the summer? If the girls make it, I m planning for a second run mid of September! Temperatures will get better until then ;)
Green_Dream
Green_Dreamweek 1
Oh, always mix nutrients first, then adjust the ph as the last thing. Keep it between 6-6.5 ๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ€
uTech420
uTech420
@Green_Dream, I think that they advertise root-juice as a buffed solution that does not alter the PH but its good you brought it up. I guess its always a good practice to mix stuff first and then adjust the PH as you proposed ๐Ÿ‘Œ
Green_Dream
Green_Dreamweek 1
Nice to see theyโ€™re up and going! ๐Ÿ‘ Like you experienced, they do that 180* bend right after they break free from the shell, itโ€™s very normal ๐Ÿ˜‰
Green_Dream
Green_Dreamweek 1
Iโ€™m on board ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜‰
uTech420
uTech420
@Green_Dream, thanks dude. Its my first grow but I tried to do my research before starting... Hopefully I will learn in the process and I will be able to greatly improve me setup :) For the time being no sign of life in the pots but its only 30 something hours running! We will see!
sompas
sompasweek 5
Good grow man. Im running vanilla kush too
Green_Dream
Green_Dreamweek 14
Theyโ€™re looking great! I see they should be done after 56-60 days according to the breeder. You might wanna already switch to plain water as they look quite dark so they get enough time to use up all those extra nuts stored in the leaves and soil.