Well I was very lucky to be able to be running these strains . I had approached this company @divineseeds and they were generous to give me some strains to try myself ..I'm running two fems . the females are indoors and they both cracked the shell in their pre soak at 4/h no lie and they were the first to pop out of soil .. I'm excited to get them going under this new #mars hydro ts1000 . It's sitting at 14" and the plants are loving it .. The next few weeks will be so good watching them develop their plant structure .. I'm going to be topping and training them as I go and there for ever home will be the 4x4x7 tent it's going to be a good run with these ladies . Cheers you guys .