Plants no longer have to be held in place, the biger one is bigger bc the smaller one has to plow thru 2 more gal of dirt, bigger one popped off center oddly, looks like there going to be tall, not shure if i like this mix, forgot name but plants are were they should be at week 3 give or take, just training with wind for now there still smallish, no real problems so far there just a pain till gain size.