I started (3) of these Sundae Driver x Cheetah Piss Fems, from Cannarado Genetics. I always start one more than the number I plan on flowering out, in case something goes wrong along the way. All 3 germinated in about 48 hours and had tap roots going already. I put them in dirt, in solo cups, under one of my Optic 2's, with just the COBs running. I started day 1 when they all broke soil. Photos are from the end of week one, of seedling/germination time.