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First Grow - Sour Diesel and Wedding Cake Autos

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2y ago
ProMix HP (Peat Moss, Perlite, Mico, ect.)
Custom
Indoor
Room Type
LST
weeks 5-7, 9
Defoliation
weeks 5-7, 9
ScrOG
weeks 6-7
Topping
weeks 6-7, 9
Main-Lining
weeks 9
19 liters
Pot Size
3.79 liters
Watering
Start at 11 Week
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Germination
2y ago
djclean808 First grow - Barney's Farm Wedding Cake and Sour
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Used method
Paper Towel
Germination Method
1
Week 1. Vegetation
2y ago
2.54 cm
Height
20 hrs
Light Schedule
22 °C
Day Air Temp
70 %
Air Humidity
21 °C
Night Air Temp
18.93 liters
Pot Size
45.72 cm
Lamp Distance
djclean808 Wedding cake was slow to start and is now taller than the Sour Diesel. Light Intensity 40% and 18" away. Keeping 72° ish and 70% rh results in VPD near 0.8. Humidifier on low and exhaust set to 2. Off at night for both to maintain humidity. Watering about 2 cups or less for each plant every other day.
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Week 2. Vegetation
2y ago
5.08 cm
Height
20 hrs
Light Schedule
22 °C
Day Air Temp
6.0
pH
400 PPM
TDS
70 %
Air Humidity
21 °C
Night Air Temp
18.93 liters
Pot Size
0.38 liters
Watering Volume
45.72 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 3
GH FloraGrow
0.476 mll
GH FloraMicro
0.476 mll
GH FloraBloom
0.476 mll
djclean808 Wedding cake is now bigger than Sour Desiel. Fed 1 Gal w nutes to each, based on the GH Photoperiod "Light Feeding" Schedule Week 1. Increased light from 40% - 60%. I will raise the light next week as they are starting to get taller. Update: Sour Desiel is looking really deformed now. It's had wings since the beginning but now growing completely sideways. Increased light and lowered humidity.
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Week 3. Vegetation
2y ago
10.16 cm
Height
20 hrs
Light Schedule
25 °C
Day Air Temp
6.5
pH
1000 PPM
TDS
60 %
Air Humidity
20 °C
Night Air Temp
18.93 liters
Pot Size
3.79 liters
Watering Volume
50.8 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 2
GH FloraGrow
1.981 mll
GH FloraMicro
1.981 mll
djclean808 WC looks good. SD maybe ...
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Week 4. Vegetation
2y ago
25.4 cm
Height
20 hrs
Light Schedule
26 °C
Day Air Temp
6.5
pH
60 %
Air Humidity
20 °C
Night Air Temp
18.93 liters
Pot Size
3.79 liters
Watering Volume
45.72 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 5
GH FloraGrow
1.585 mll
GH FloraMicro
2.113 mll
GH FloraBloom
1.321 mll
djclean808 Wedding Cake is looking really good. Sour Diesel is bouncing back and only slightly behind in size. The wedding cake already has a nice smell in the morning. Sour diesel has no smell. I'm using Armor Si as foliar spray (1.5mls per liter - spray bottle is 1 liter) the day before watering.
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Week 5. Vegetation
2y ago
30.48 cm
Height
20 hrs
Light Schedule
26 °C
Day Air Temp
6.5
pH
60 %
Air Humidity
20 °C
Night Air Temp
18.93 liters
Pot Size
3.79 liters
Watering Volume
50.8 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 4
GH FloraGrow
0.396 mll
GH FloraMicro
0.528 mll
GH FloraBloom
0.396 mll
djclean808 The WC is still growing a lot quicker than the SD, but there are some issues I've ran into. The WC new growth is light green, there are rusty spots on some of the leaves, the tips are burnt(white or yellow), the runoff last watering started in the high PPMs of 5k and pH of runoff started around 4 and went to about 2k ppms and pH 5. The last watering I did a couple days ago was 1/4 strength of what I gave previously at pH 6, to help rinse the salts out that could be causing the ph issue/ppm issue. The wedding cake has started producing white pistils but the SD is still small and no sign of pistils yet. I plan
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Used techniques
LST
Technique
Defoliation
Technique
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Week 6. Flowering
2y ago
30.48 cm
Height
20 hrs
Light Schedule
26 °C
Day Air Temp
6.5
pH
60 %
Air Humidity
20 °C
Night Air Temp
18.93 liters
Pot Size
3.79 liters
Watering Volume
50.8 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 4
GH FloraGrow
1.585 mll
GH FloraMicro
1.585 mll
GH FloraBloom
1.321 mll
djclean808 Wedding is strong. We'll see what happens with the
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Used techniques
LST
Technique
Topping
Technique
Defoliation
Technique
ScrOG
Technique
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Week 7. Flowering
2y ago
55.88 cm
Height
20 hrs
Light Schedule
26 °C
Day Air Temp
5.8
pH
60 %
Air Humidity
20 °C
Night Air Temp
18.93 liters
Pot Size
7.57 liters
Watering Volume
43.18 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 4
GH FloraGrow
1.585 mll
GH FloraMicro
1.321 mll
GH FloraBloom
2.113 mll
djclean808 Losing headroom
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Used techniques
LST
Technique
Topping
Technique
Defoliation
Technique
ScrOG
Technique
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Week 8. Flowering
2y ago
55.88 cm
Height
20 hrs
Light Schedule
26 °C
Day Air Temp
5.8
pH
60 %
Air Humidity
20 °C
Night Air Temp
18.93 liters
Pot Size
7.57 liters
Watering Volume
43.18 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 4
GH FloraGrow
1.585 mll
GH FloraMicro
1.321 mll
GH FloraBloom
2.642 mll
djclean808 Been slacking on my
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Week 9. Flowering
2y ago
66.04 cm
Height
20 hrs
Light Schedule
23 °C
Day Air Temp
5.8
pH
51 %
Air Humidity
20 °C
Night Air Temp
18.93 liters
Pot Size
3.79 liters
Watering Volume
43.18 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 4
GH FloraGrow
0.793 mll
GH FloraMicro
0.793 mll
GH FloraBloom
1.585 mll
djclean808 The exhaust on my tent was set to exhaust at a certain rh% but the probe went bad and the exhaust did not kick on. The plants were were in %80+ rh for the most part of a the day. Vivosun sent me a new probe but i wont be setting it up like that again. Dehu on the way to keep rh low.
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Used techniques
LST
Technique
Main-Lining
Technique
Topping
Technique
Defoliation
Technique
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Week 10. Flowering
2y ago
66.04 cm
Height
20 hrs
Light Schedule
23 °C
Day Air Temp
5.8
pH
51 %
Air Humidity
20 °C
Night Air Temp
18.93 liters
Pot Size
3.79 liters
Watering Volume
43.18 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 4
GH FloraGrow
1.585 mll
GH FloraMicro
1.321 mll
GH FloraBloom
2.642 mll
djclean808 WC still filling out and SD very dense and looking frosty. I'm slowing increasing bloom(PK) and going to dial back micro (N). Trying to catch up on my weekly posts
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Week 11. Flowering
2y ago
68.58 cm
Height
20 hrs
Light Schedule
22 °C
Day Air Temp
5.8
pH
Normal
Smell
51 %
Air Humidity
17 °C
Night Air Temp
18.93 liters
Pot Size
3.79 liters
Watering Volume
43.18 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 4
GH FloraGrow
0.793 mll
GH FloraMicro
0.264 mll
GH FloraBloom
1.849 mll
djclean808 Slowly backed off the nutes until I just did plain water. When it was time for a drink the dechlorinated water I had was outside in the cold. So they got a nice chilled drink of 2 gallons each. About 4 days later they were pretty dry and gave them a flush of the substrate - 4 gallons of PHd water each (6.0). I would like to see the fade before harvesting and it has finally started on day 81. I plan to water once more in about 3 days and let them dry out and either pull them both or the SD first because WC doesn't look as far along. I will make that decision based on the trichomes. The finish line is in sight. Oh and I also started cooling the lung room so the day and night time temperature has dropped to simulate the end is near. About 60° at night and 68° during the day (numbers from inside the tent).
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SimpleGrow
SimpleGrow commented2y ago
Hey wassup! I’ve noticed, that you are feeding your plant very low amounts of nutriens. In total you are giving them 144mg/Gallon nitrogen, 125mg/Gallon phosphorus and 180mg/Gallon potasium. Convertet to Liters you are giving them an npk of 38,08mg/L N, 33,3 mg/L P and 47,6 mg/L K. An Ideal amount of NPK during Veg for cannabis according to credible studies is 160-190mg/L N, 30-90mg/L P and 200mg/L K. Alot of these Nutirens are necessary for the development of your plant so i would suggest the following formula: 7,5 ml/Gallon Tripack Grow 7,5 ml/Gallon Tripack Micro You would then be feeding: 160mg/L N, 40mg/L P and, 140mg/L K You could use 3,5 ml/Gallon of Flora Bloom if you want to push the potasium a bit higher during Veg for more root developement. but make sure it‘s in that range because otherwise the phosphorus gets so high that it hinders secondary metabolism during flower. Same with potasium. Sorry for the long comment but i noticed some discoloration so maybe this would help 🌱💪🏻
djclean808
djclean808 commented2y ago
@SimpleGrow, hey thank you for the info! I'll post the chart I was using. It was from GH and it was the light feeding schedule. I did this because I heard Autos don't need that much nutes and my first grow didn't want to do too much. But based on your recommendation I will definitely alter the formula. I could try the medium feed schedule. Although the light feed has an increase in nutes for week 2. I'll post it in the pictures too. I gave them a gallon each of nutes last week which was probably too much, but I wanted to activate the Myco in soil so when the roots reach out the the myco will be ready. I haven't given any nutes or water this week yet and he soil is just about dry enough to water again. Check out the new picture of the chart and let me know if I should continue. Also, I have CalMag, Armor Si and Dimaond nectar on the way (1/24). Thanks again! 🤘
SimpleGrow
SimpleGrow commented2y ago
@djclean808, hey thanks for sharing the chart. I do like that you are not overfeeding your plant but I would say that at this stage you HAVE to give your plants more nutriens. Especially since cannabis is basically like a race car. Anything that grows need nutriens. Auto, photoperiodic or just living. It needs food, and alot! So don‘t worry about overfeeding, I did calculate it exactly. The only problem I see with the chart ist that Bloom itself has alot of Phosphorus wich was shown to be only beneficial up to 90mg/L. Ontop of that it‘s a bad environmental polutant and causes plants to not metabolise cannabinoids. So especially in flower I don‘t understand why brands recomend using so much phosphorus. Anyways, your plants can definitally take it and imo it need the Nitrogen and Posassium the most right now. Not to say they are starving or anything. Btw if you‘re not sure if you overfed them with the gallon, you didn‘t! It‘s impossible to overfeed with the amount of nutriens that were in the gallon, i‘m sorry if that sounds harsh or something but it‘s true. You would have had to feed 5 Gallons to even reach the recommended Nitrogen concentration, so don‘t worry about that! And Cal-mag is also a great idea to get! Magnesium is essential for photosynthesis so it‘s best to start soon although it takes time for the plant to show deficiencies. I hope this helps and of course🙏
SimpleGrow
SimpleGrow commented2y ago
@djclean808, Btw if you didn‘t have any calcium or Magnesium in your solution it‘s great that you have Cal-Mag there! Because I believe it has around 4-5% nitrogen, wich would make the nutriensolution even better since 160mg/L N is a bit on the low end, I would put around 3,5ml/Gallon to get it around 200-210mg/L N 😁
djclean808
djclean808 commented2y ago
@SimpleGrow, ahh thank you. I would like to cut the phosphorus for the reasons you explained. I put together a chart that has everything I will be using-Based on the light feeding schedule (in pencil so I can earse and adjust). Also I found the FastBuds Autoflower feeding chart which has very small amounts of nutes imo. There's just a lot of info out there and it seems I can use it as a guideline but ultimately come up with my own formula based on what the plant needs (and others recommdations/experience 😉). I'll post those charts as well. You recommend Grow and Micro at 3.7 for all weeks?
SimpleGrow
SimpleGrow commented2y ago
@djclean808, Yes following the charts is good way of staying on track but ultimately it comes down to how much N,P and K are in the solution. Remember that these are companies and they always try to sell you something. It‘s just obviously too much phosphorus in Bloom in general so I think they should be held accountable for recommending so much in some form. So for you I think 7,5ml Grow, 7,5ml Micro and 2-3,5 ml Calmag is more than sufficient. 3,5ml Bloom extra will get you to around 90mg/L P and a bit more potasium wich is good. Normally you would have to consider the weight because i‘m going with 1kg=1L fertelizer. So i‘m calculating the minimum . You also feed everytime you water until flower and since the EC is around 1.300, it is ideal for nutrien uptake. I don‘t even have to measure it. I do see that following recommendations based on experience of others seems a bit weird but thats not really where I’m coming from. If you google „NPK cannabis, studies, nutrition for Veg or Flower“ for example, you will come across very credible studies done with cannabis by giving hundreds of plants different ratios and monitoring the results(kinda advertising here haha) So if you‘re going for high yield I would go for optimal nutrition that predicts that :) I did have two plants last year yielding around 200g so I‘m not trying to just sound smart! It does work well (at least with the Lemon skunk strain)
SimpleGrow
SimpleGrow commented2y ago
@djclean808, I know you didn‘t ask for all this but i do wanted to comment something 🤣 😁so it‘s of course totally fine if you want to follow/create your own style of growing. She does look great 💪🏻 Just one more point: Remeber Autoflowers are especially on the fast lane. The only reason i could see for them needing less nutrition is because they tend to be smaler than photoperiods. But where elso should the matter to grow a leaf come from?
djclean808
djclean808 commented2y ago
@SimpleGrow, hey I didn't ask but was hoping someone would help out! 🙌 so I definitely appreciate it. I just mean custom as not what's on the bottle or really their feeding chart. Cutting P and adding more N,K. I never really calculated the mg/gal before and just ml/gal. So I will adjust the formula to fit the mg/gal parameters you recommend.
SimpleGrow
SimpleGrow commented2y ago
@djclean808, Sounds great, good luck to You! The amounts I recommended are already in ml/Gallon but I would definitely factor in the weight. If you need help lmk (if it‘s close to 1:1 you can ignore it)
djclean808
djclean808 commented2y ago
@SimpleGrow, wow just did a little research on it and understand what you mean about mg's. Which is also ppm/l. So definitely going to dive into fertilizer calculations now 🤯 but I actually like doing math!
SimpleGrow
SimpleGrow commented2y ago
@djclean808, great 🙌🏼, it‘s very intuitive when you get the gist of it. :) I always start with the total weight of the substance in my fertelizer and multiply it by the percentage I’m using (4ml of 1000 would be 0,4% so times 0,004) you will get grams so you‘ll have to convert to mg wich is 1/1000.
djclean808
djclean808 commented2y ago
@SimpleGrow, suprisingly this is making sense! Haha. Once I calculate each fertilizer (NPK percentages, as well Cal and Mg) those numbers stay the same per each bottle of fertilizer. Then calculate the weight of the nutes in mgs per ml?
Groweedo
Groweedo commented2y ago
Good luck, it’s pretty
Frosted_Nuggets
Frosted_Nuggets commented2y ago
Looking good. May the grow gods be with you!
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