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taprootArmy 19.04.
start germination of 3 freshly bought seeds in waterglass:
tap water PH: 6.9
starting water temp: 22°C
room temp: 20-22°C
glass placed in dark cupboard
21.04.
all 3 seeds did germinate in glass
one was way ahead with 0.5 cm root.
The other two just did crack open and did show a tiny white rooty barely visible
- still placed all three in their final 11L pots about 1 fingertip deep
left the pots in the room at 22-24°C
Did water with the same 6.9PH water from germination glass using spray bottle.
first two days probably was way too little water. Only did 3-4 sprays every few hours to keep the surface moist.
23.04.
Noticed, that below the surface the earth was quite dry, so I did continue with a lot more sprays till the surface felt really wet, so that the water can perforate into deeper.
24.04.
The additional water seemed to work well. All 3 seedlings emerged from the ground in the evening. All 3 were free from seed shell
25.04.
Put the seedlings under my SANlight Evo 4x80 at 40% (lamp as high as possible) in the morning
Android Photone App did show 20 DLI with 20h light - I chose to set the timer to 18h on and 6h off in a desperate try to reduce the amount of daily light.
Huge problems with humidity. cant really get it above 45% without humidifier.
Did put a bucket with water into the tent and put a wet towel over it, so that it does touch the water in the middle. it helped to get it from 40-45% in average
Did cover the seedlings with an open plastic bottle.. hopefully that bottle does increase humidity inside to at least 50%
Room temp 20-24°C
Watering every 8h with PH 6.6 tap water. still using spray bottle till the surface feels really wet.
27.04
Nothing changed. Seedling is growing slowly.
Guess the low humidity is slowing growth quite a bit, but it is looking good and keeps growing, so I guess it is not too bad.
Height: 3.5-4cm
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Germination Method
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Week 1. Vegetation
1y ago
More photos +17
8.5 cm
18 hrs
26 °C
6.3
No Smell
45 %
21 °C
24 °C
11 L
95 cm
Nutrients 3
PowerZyme 1.6 mll
Root Complex 4 mll
SuperVit 0.01 mll
taprootArmy 28.04.
- Did notice that my PH adjusted water (saved in a plastic bucket) did start to smell a bit foul, so I mixed a new one.
reduced the water frequency to every 12h, but doubled the amount of sprays by doing a second run after a few minutes
- managed to get the humidity to 60-70% during dark time by switching off the ventilation. Other than that humidity was 45-50%
Temp 22-24°C
- removed the plastic bottle "domes" and did turn on fan during dark time to start moving the plants a bit. However turned the fan, so it does blow on the wall and not directly on the plants
- moved the pots to the corners of the box to further remove the amount of light
(was stupid and flipped over one bottle and it fell on plant 1. Her stem now is a bit diagonally, but looks like no damage *phew*
*making note* never move pots when you have a humidity dome over your plants^^)
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29.04
- did mix 5l water with boosters and gave 40ml of that mix to each plant:
20ml root complex
8ml powerZyme
1 drop of Supervit
- noticed that plant 3 falls behind a lot. it didnt really grow since 27th - no idea why looks healthy otherwise. Maybe builds up more roots?
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30.04.
- outdoor temp did raise to 24°C+. Box now is 25-27°C. God summer will suck *scared*
- still not a lot of change on plant 3. Leafs also strangely are pointed upwards. Color... looks good and healthy though so still no idea...
- the other two look good. more darker green, less yellowish (maybe the boosters did work?)
However, growth looks a bit slow overall compared to some timelapse videos of other growers - probably either my low-ish humidity or my frequent watering?
- reduced the spraying a lot, instead I gave 50ml around each plant.
Did decide to try a normal watering with a bit of drain tomorrow.
- Saw two tiny flies today (one on the yellow sticky pats, one I killed myself) - maybe fungus gnats? probably should get some nematodes
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01.05.
- First real watering. PH 6.6 , 22.5°C Water temp.
very slowy gave water untill a little bit of drain was happening
each 11L pot fit roughly 2.2L until drain started. - maybe earth wasnt compressed enough?
- still very warm outside for beginning of may. Highest temp in growbox was 28°C
- plant 1 and 2 doing well
- plant 3 still isnt really growing well and shows signs of mutation again (only 1 new leaf instead of a pair)
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02.05.
no water today
slightly lower temps, humidity around 60% during dark cycle, 45% during light cycle
changed to 20/4 light cycle
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03.05.
still no water
temps around 21-25°C
same humidity
plant 3 gets more strange/mutated every day - probably will be a fail
plant 1/2 looking good, also growing in height. Biggest one almost 8 cm now
Stems didnt really grow stronger though - is this normal?
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04.05.
still no water
nothing changed on temp/humidity
pretty sure plant 3 will be a fail.. look at those mutations and the slow growth...
plant1+2 keeps stretching, building new nodes.. very dense. Height 7.8-8.9cm
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Week 2. Vegetation
1y ago
More photos +21
16 cm
20 hrs
24 °C
6.5
No Smell
250 PPM
50 %
19 °C
20 °C
11 L
45 cm
Nutrients 3
PowerZyme 1.6 mll
Root Complex 4 mll
SuperVit 0.01 mll
taprootArmy 05.05.
50ml of the booster mixture to each plant (PH 5.9, 22°C)
plants are growing in height 9-10cm
Air 22-24°C
should remove plant 3 soon? Sick mutated plant could be more prone to pests?
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06.05.
Already noticed yesterday that the surface of the soil became quite hydrophobic, so I lightly applied some water to the surface using spray bottle. Besides that, still moist a few cm below the surface.
Color is a nice darker green. Second time I did notice better leaf color a day after giving booster solution.
Other than that nothing really new. New growth mainly around new shoots.
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07.05
Plant 2 is already 12cm, plant 1 around 10cm - maybe I should increase amount of light?
New shoots on plant 3 look more normal, also growth picks up - maybe she is recovering?
Coldest day so far. Lowest temp 19°C High 23.5°C
Humidity 45-50%
The first 3-4 cm are already VERY dry, but still did decide to skip water again because plants still look good and bottom half of the pot still seems a bit moist.
- Want to encourage deeper roots.
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08.05.
slowly applied water until light drain. around 6L for all 3 plants. Temp: 19°C PH: 6.5
Also gave the girls a very light shower with the spray bottle at the beginning of dark time
growing a bit in height. Plant 2 already at 13cm. Other than that slower growth (maybe they did build more roots due to the long dry period?)
did lower the lamp around 15cm to 80cm
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09.05.
No water. surface is still more moist than I like - probably due to lower temps and higher humidity.
Leafs are a bit hanging. *UPDATE* They just had to wake up. Leafs are tight AF again.
Plant 2 grows in height a lot, already 16cm. 12cm for plant 1 wich is a lot shorter, but has roughly the same development.
Third side branch is already forming on both plants
plant 3 continues to be weird. Her main now grows sideways, almost like she is topped
Did clean the floor of the box and plant saucers.
- *UPDATE* I have to do smth with plant 2 either topping or LST. still a bit unsure
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10.05.
Forgot to close the window over night so temp dropped to 18°C for a few hours :(
plant 2 didnt grow in height today, so I decided against topping. Instead I started LST.
plant 1 is still short and bushy, hard to LST and not necessary imho.. I just let her grow for now
No water today
Did lower the lamp to 45cm distance, but still on 40%
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11.05.
No Water today
Further LST on plant 2: bend her lower and get some leaves out of the way
Started LST of plant 1 very lightly
Hi,
first grow here. My automatics are at their 16th day above ground. I think I have to top one of my plants to keep her height in check. Where and when should I top her? should I rather only do LST or maybe even wait for now (but they are automatics, so I should be quick?)?
With Autoflowers you want to avoide as much stress to the plant as possible because you are on a set time of growth before its flower. Topping is considered stressful to the plant. However, some people do this and have good success.
Personally I always LST my Autoflowers and they turn out amazing. If I were you, I would simply pull down the plant to level out the canopy and keep pulling down the branches as they grow. This will open it up and cause more branches to get better light and in return produce amazing colas all over.
You can check out my Banana Purple Punch Diary to see how I LST my plants and then what they grew up to be.
I hope this helps.
taprootArmy 12.05.
No water today
More LST - also removed one of the initial 1 finger leafs from each plant because they were touching the ground.
Higer temperature up to 26°C, Humidity around 45-50%
Plants already start to smell
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13.05.
Still no water
Temps are still high-ish between 26-27°C; Humidity around 49%
Thought about removing some leaves to give the lower branches more light, but in the end I just did decide to do some leaf tucking.
Increased fan speed from lvl2 to lvl4 because stems/leafs are stronger now and I wanted a bit more wind.
Moved the pots more into the middle of the box to increase light (thinking about turning up the light to 60%, but not sure yet)
Plant 1 is taking off with crazy branch building.
Plant 2 is didnt grow too much, maybe she needs more time to recover from LST? stems on both plants are thicker
Plant 3 is developing good growth, new parts dont look mutated anymore..
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14.05.
No water
Same temp, slightly lower humidity
Little bit of leaf tucking
Plant 1 shows sex and does continue insane growth
Plant 2 currently is the slowers grower, pretty sure the LST was a bit much for her
Plant 3 pretty impressed about her growth. I almost did write her off, but she had an insane comeback
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15.05.
still not sure whether I give water or not.
Humidity dropped over night to 35%, but recovered during the day to slightly over 40 again
Besides that, nothing really new; still no sign of sex on plant 2 and 3
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16.05.
did use the leftover booster solution of last week (around 4L), added 3L of water and did water the plants with it (around 2L to each plant untill runoff)
PH 8.3 - 0.5ms/cm
same temp, humidity around 45%
both plants are around 17cm in LST state
stronger smell, some growth around the side branches, but not really stretching in height
curious how the plants react to more light, so I did turn up the lamp to 60%
- *UPDATE* After 6h I did notice some slight "taco" / "V" shapes on some of the leaves, so I did lower the lamp to 40% again
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17.05.
no water today
temp around 25°C, Humidity: 45%
plant 2 now also shows sex. plant 3 is still shy
a little bit of leaf tucking so that all those side branches get more light
leaves did recover and are flat again will wait a few days until I I try increasing light again.
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18.05.
no water
temp unchanged
removed some of the lowest nodes/leaves on plant 1
Little bit of LST on plant 2
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Week 4. Flowering
1y ago
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35 cm
20 hrs
24 °C
6.4
Normal
425 PPM
50 %
19 °C
21 °C
11 L
45 cm
Nutrients 5
Bloom Complex 2.5 mll
Boost 1 mll
Root Complex 2.5 mll
taprootArmy 19.05.
No Water today
Mainly leaf tucking plus a bit of LST to get more side branches to the top
No problems, but I think I need some fertilizer soon.
Probably bloom fertilizer since they already did show sex? Yeah, I guess they could want some phosphorus and dont need a ton of nitrogen in preflower,
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20.05.
Still no water
Temp 24°C Humidity: 50%
Nothing really new, still no sex on plant 3
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21.05.
Gave Preflower nutrients and boosts. Around 2L to each plant. PH: 6.4 EC: 0.85
Temp 24°C, really wet today Humidity: 55-60%
Removed inner lower sidebranches in plant 1 plus a few leaves. Removed some leaves from plant 2
Some LST, mainly on plant 3
Will check how the plants react to the nutrients. If they take it well, I will try to increase the lights again tomorrow or the day after.
(I only want to change 1 thing at a time, to be sure how the plants react, so no watering/feeding and changing the lights together)
Also did clean the box today
Strech started for plant 1, it is growing like crazy (30cm already), also plant 2 will stretch soon too.
Still no sex for plant 3
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22.05.
No water today
Plants took nutrients pretty well. Slight discolor of leaftips at the newest leaves though. *UPDATE* pretty sure that it is wind burn. I did move the fan higher and will reduce the force and/or uptime
Plants keep stretching, and smelling more
Did increase the light to 60%. Lets watch for a couple of hours
still no sex on plant 3 though
Humidity above 60% in the morning. Did drop a bit during the day, but still high due to all the rain outside.
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23.05.
No water today
Humidity dropped to normal level again around 50%
Put up a scrog net to continue LST and get a more equal level
Top leaves still look curled... did lower the fan speed to cure the wind brand
Oh and I'll really have to defoliate those again at some point... will give them a few days of stretch though maybe even a week...
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24.05.
No water today and I basically did nothing at all.
Also variables did not change.
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25.05.
Not sure about watering. Plant 1 could already have some, but plant 2 and 3 are still heavy/moist enough. Will wait till evening/night.
Bought a 5L pressure spray bottle with around 1m handle to reach the pots more easily under the net.
Did try it in my bath tub and looks pretty good, I only have to pump a few times, keep pressing the button at the handle and it automatically and slowly keeps spraying with constant pressure for a long time.
Takes a couple of minutes for one litre, but I think thats exactly how it should be to avoid dry spots and washing down minerals. On the hand it feels like light rain.
Will keep updating after first real watering.
Probably will defoliate tomorrow. I want my plants more clean and organized...
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ScrOG
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Week 5. Flowering
1y ago
More photos +18
48 cm
20 hrs
25 °C
6.2
Normal
325 PPM
55 %
19 °C
23 °C
11 L
37 cm
Nutrients 5
Bloom Complex 1.25 mll
Boost 0.5 mll
Root Complex 1.25 mll
taprootArmy 26.05.
3L of plain tap water added to 3L of leftover fertilizer solution from last week. PH adjusted to 6.2 and fed to the plants. Only minimal/no drain.
Did a massive defoliation - Pictures after their dark cycle rest.
Not sure whether the net was a good idea. I thought they will now stretch a lot in height, but its not that crazy.
The net made defoliation very difficult, in the end I even did stop at plant 3 even though I wanted to take more off on her.
The new Gloria 5 pressure sprayer was a good investment. It takes a while to apply the 6L, but reaching the plants was way more easy, no spilling onto the leaves and it was very evenly distributed.
Due to the slow watering, you can really time it well and have no/minimal drainage. My guess is that it also holds nutrition better and does not flush them down as much as other types of watering.
The pressure did move the earth a bit if you come close to the surface, but still less than pouring fast with a bottle/watering can
With one round of pumping you can apply roughly 2L of water.
Did remove almost all LST wire. It did not have any effect anymore and was annoying during defoliation.
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27.05.
No water today
Did move the fan to other side as adviced
did try to bend a few side branches towards the middle and took a few leaves to give more light to lower sites.
No chance moving the main cola, the stem is rock hard and maybe moves half a cm...💪
plant 3 finally shows sex
Yesterday big defoliation and today my mind already goes.. "could remove this leave and that and maybe this too?" pretty sure I'll have to do another round in a few days...
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28.05.
No water today
Leaves are a bit droopy today, especially at plant 1
Dont think that it is due to water issues. surface still feels somewhat moist and I dont think that I am overwatering either...
Best guess would be that plants got used to 50-62% humidity during the weeks of rain, now it stopped raining and humidity did drop to slightly above 40% pretty fast, so sudden change of VPD?
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29.05.
Plants just were very thirsty. Looks like a bit of moisture isnt enough anymore and I have to water every 2-3 days now.
So I gave 7L plain PH adjusted water in total (PH: 6.1 - 22°C)
Stems are firm again after a few hours and leaves also recover.
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30.05.
No water today
Plants did recover very well and now look really healthy again. Purple stems still remain on plant 1 though
Will have to defoliate again soon.
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31.05.
Probably have to water again, some of the stems start to feel weak again and plant 1 starts to droop. Will wait a few hours till night to be sure though.
Very good development, plants grew almost 3 cm yesterday.
Did set up a second fan in opposite direction to the first one to get more air flow evenly at every plant. Felt like plant 1 didnt get enough air/movement after moving the fan.
Also did set up some yellow sticky traps again, just for early detection
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01.06.
early in the morning I gave 6L tap water to plant 1+2 till runoff PH:6.2
plant 1 needs fertilizer next time. EC of runoff barely was above my tap water
plant 2 runoff EC: 0.94
Did wait till evening, so that the plants can recover and then I did end the week with a big defoliation to improve air flow and light penetration.
Plants dont look too happy about defoliation. Was hard to reach especially plant 3 in the corner and I did bend some of the buds of plant 2 by accident. But I guess they will recover from that soon.
Also gave around 1.8L water to plant 3 in the evening till tiny bit runnoff. guess half of a day wasnt enough. She doesnt drink as much as the other two...
Did not measure runoff EC of plant 3 probably will skip her in the next feeding round anyways as she is so much behind plant 1
And it is again raining like crazy. together with watering, the humidity did rise slightly above 60% temperatur stays lowish for june around 24-25° in the box.
Plants grow very fast in the last days. Either its the stretch or it is because of the good VPD due to high humidity/lowish temp
Looks like my plants are growing towards the wall and not towards the middle where the light should be the best.
Why do the plants behave like that and what should I do?
Raise the net, rotate some of the plants, then redo the net?
Remove the net completely?
leave it as it is?
Actually plants tend to be taller when there is lack of light... If in the middle you have the brightest light that's normal that branches remain shorter.
Plant in the right corner stretched the most in the grow tent corner area.
Wild guess - she receives less light because of the fan.
Just measure PPFD in different parts of your grow tent and you'll see.
You have to rotate plants.
Try alternate position of the fan.
what should I do?
history:
21.05. Water with full dose of fertilizer
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26.05. Soil really dry - Water with half dose of fertilizer
27.05. Plants look super healthy (24°C 55-60%RLF)
28.05. started to droop (27°C 40-45%RLF)
29.05. even worse, (25°C 45%RLF), surface still moist
taprootArmy 02.06.
No water today, probably tomorrow in the morning with nutrients
start of the week:
- height: 51cm max (3cm/day for the last days)
- plant 1: buds fattening; bit pale on top, probably needs some nutrients. (I'll get some Epsom salt as my water doesnt contain too much magnesium)
- plant 2: starting to flower
- plant 3 not quite in flower, but catching up
I think that the second ventilator was a good idea.
Humidity stays high 60%+, still very moderate temperatures, around 25°C in the box
I will reduce the light cycle to 18/6 for a test and probably increase the light to 80% (212W) later this week
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03.06.
I did mix 9L of light nutrient solution PH 6.8 and did add 12g of Epsom salt to add a bit of magnesium
However, the epsom did push the EC to 1.22 and I was too scared and unsure about the right amount of Epsom salt, so I only did apply half of the solution (1L per plant) and then did add 1L of tap water PH:6.2
- will see how the plant react and then there will be the other half in the next watering or another light nutrients without the Epsom
The longer night time looks good. When the lighhts went on the plants already did look pretty good. Usually they were quite a bit droopy and had to wake up first
plant 2 is stretching a lot. She easily did outgrow plant 1 in height: 53cm atm.
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04.06.
No water today
plant 2 is still growing, plant 1 more or less stopped
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05.06
Did mix another nutrient solution without the epsom salt and fed 2L to plant 1+2 without drain in the morning PH: 6.6 EC: 0.68
Coming back from work plant 3 was very thirsty and I gave her 2L of that solution with a few ml of drain... probably have to water her together with the other two now.
Plant 1 had a few sick leaves. Brown spots, leaves felt like dry paper. One leaf somehow had a single finger completely dry and crisp. Mostly old leaves at the bottom/sticking to the wall were affected, so I am not overly concerned and just did remove those leaves.
The tops of plant 1+2 still are very light greenish. Not sure whether it is because of the fast growth or whether something is missing/off. Lets see how they react to the nutrients and I also did order some real cal/mag... dont trust that epsom salt stuff, mainly because it also contains quite a bit of sulphur and I am very unsure about the dosage as it does push EC a lot...
I also finally did increase the light to 80% (212W). This will be the final power. According to the SANLight data sheets more would only make sense with CO2 supplement on 80x80...
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06.06.
no water today
the two sick leaves at plant 2 got worse, i did remove them, Made a picture of them together with the leaves that I did remove yesterday
besides that, plants did not get worse at least.
Buds of plant 1 get thicker, maybe even a hint of trichomes, but not sure about that.
plant 2 "only" grew 2cm today, still not a lot of bud development
plant 3 had some bud development, maybe trying to catch up to plant 2?
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07.06.
I gave 3L of nutrient solution to plant 1+2 and 2L to plant 3.
PH:6.3
runoff plant 1: 250ml EC: 1.26 PH: 5.7
runoff plant 2: 200ml EC 1.16 PH: 5.7
- I think my soil PH is too low. I will water with higher PH next time(s)
- EC doesnt look too bad I guess?
plant 2 does show magnesium deficiency.
For short term treatment I will use a epsom salt foliar spray trying to avoid bud sites in the next dark cycle. But in general I guess I have to fix my PH
plant 1 did start with trichome production. At least one good development. welkl besides the fact that I did not get new sick/dieing leaves besides the yellowing
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08.06.
No water today
I did mix 0.5L tapwater with 1tsp epsom salt and did use it as a foliar spray at beginning of the dark cycle. Only did spray a little at a few leaves.
Not sure whether it had an effect considering how little of the 0.5L I used, but it did leave some residue on the leaves after drying, No fan of epsom salt as foliar spray.
Luckily my CalMag did arrive today. next watering probably will be just tap water with calMag and high PH.
At least not more signs of deficiencies.
I also did rearrange the fans a bit to add some variation in the airflow and to match the growth
week closure:
some problems with plant 1+2... still didnt really figured out what the problem is. Current assumption: soil a bit too acidic and mag deficiency
plant 1 slowly develops her buds and also started to produce trichomes.
plant 2 did grow 20cm this week! If she keeps growing I'll get a height problem too... However, her bud sites start to swell a bit, so I hope she is done stretching soon.
plant 3 was a weak mutant in the beginning, but now she is my best looking plant - even though she is still lacking behind a bit
overall not a very good week. The crazy growth of plant 2 made my canopy uneven and I worry about the yellowing of plant 1 and 2.
2 of my 3 plants are a bit yellow-ish at the top since about a week. Plant 1 also had a couple of sick leaves at the bottom that I did remove. Those leaves had brown/dark spots, felt dry like paper, had very purple stems and did smell more like hay. More info in my report.
Your plants are showing over feeding and deficiency symptoms.
You probably have nutrients lock out due to salt build up.
Check your run off EC and pH to confirm, flash the medium, adjust feeding.
taprootArmy 09.06.
3-3.5L tapwater total to each plant. PH 7.1 multiple times runoff to get rid of salts and stabilize PH
plant 1 runoff:
1. 250ml - PH 5.8 EC: 0.87
2. 250ml - PH 5.8 EC: 1.19
3. 200ml - PH 5.7 EC: 1.24
plant 2 runoff:
1. 300ml - PH 5.8 EC: 0.88
2. 300ml - PH 5.7 EC: 1.23
3. 150ml - PH 5.7 EC: 1.25
plant 3 runoff:
1. 250ml - PH 5.9 EC: 1.14
= watering with PH:7 was not enough; runoff still below PH6; will continue next time
*Update*
Did mix another litre tapwater (PH 8.1) with 3ml of calmag and fed half of it to each plant 1 and 2.
runoff(for both plants roughly the same): 200ml PH: 5.8 EC: 1.64
Magnesium deficiency signs are mostly gone on plant 2, maybe the epsom salt foliar spray did work a bit? upper leaves are still pale
Now one older leaf on plant 1 does clearly show signs of magnesium deficiency and I also have 2 more sick leaves
Plant 3 still looks good, but maybe first signs of some yellowing on the top.
= problem still persists. More and more sure, that it is indeed a nutrient lock due to PH.
Hopefully the watering today at least solved a little bit, but I guess the problem will at least persist this week until it is really solved 😥
Its getting warmer outside, very sunny, so humidity did drop to 45-50% and temperature did rise to around 26-27°C
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10.06.
No water today
Still no improvement with leaf color
Some bud sites below the net removed - the ones on plant 1 already were sticky
plant 2 just doesnt stop growing for some reason - 3cm today again 😲
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11.06.
problem got worse, on top of the yellowing, leaf tips became purple and even plant 3 did show beginning of some yellowing.
Thats why I did flush the plants yesterday:
I did mix 36L of a very light nutrient solution (total EC 0.65, PH: 7.3):
3.4 ml/L Bloom
1.8 ml/L Phosphor Plus
1.1 ml/L Power Zyme
2 drop/9L Super vit
1.3 g/9L Epsom salt
Fed all of it to my 3 plants in cycles untill the runoff EC was equal to the input EC. (except plant 3 there EC was still a bit higher, but I was tired and she and her runoff was in much better condition)
- This should have cleared any the built up salts and imbalances.
PH was 5.9-6 in the end, still not perfect... hopefully this will improve with the next waterings.
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Still dont really get the epsom salt calculations/chemics, but I found the following values that I will use from now:
1g Epsom salt ≙ 98,6mg Mg
Calcium needed:
Seedling 60 mg/L
Veg 90 mg/L
Flower 120 mg/L
Magnesium needed:
Seedling 20 mg/L
Veg 30 mg/L
flower 40 mg/L"
= my water has 12mg/L magnesium, so according to chatGPT calculation I have to add 0.183 g/L of Epsom salt for veg and 0.284 g/L for flower
- but this would change my EC quite a bit, so I'll try to stick to the veg values for now
- ALso have to add a bit of calcium, but my main problem is magnesium and thats why calMag is not the right solution for me. Still need a single source of calcium
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12.06.
No water
plant 1 does build sugar leaves, buds become sticky and if you touch them, fingers smell REALLY good, but overall smell of the box isnt that great. Probably because of the yellowing.
plant 1 still has more sick/dead leaves with brown spots. Did remove all of them because it might be Septoria fungus infection. Shouldnt be a nutrient problem after flush...
plant 2 still growing 78cm.. still not a lot of development at the buds...
plant 3 bud development is pretty good.
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13.06.
No water
Did remove some lower bud sites below the net to encourage plant 2 to develop her main buds
Removed more leaves with brown spots on plant 1. More and more convinced, that it indeed is Septoria fungus infection. However, no spread to plant 2/3 so far.
plant 2/3 continue bud growth - but it is slowly. Looking forward to drying them out, so that I can give them some real nutrients after the flush
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14.06.
No water - plant 2/3 could already have some, but plant 1 is still pretty saturated, so I did decide to wait with all of them
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15.06.
did water early in the morning
9L nutrient solution:
- did let chatGPT calculate calmag and epsom salt amount to reach 100mg/L calcium and 35mg/L magnesium based on my water values and biobizz calmag (4.2% Ca / 1.7%Mg)
in total I did add the following to the 9L bucket:
8.1ml CalMag
0,66g Epsom salt
13.5ml Hesi bloom
7.2ml Hesi Phosphor plus
9ml Hesi Boost
= this did result in 0.84 EC and 6.9 PH
fed to the 3 plants (2/3 roughly the same, plant 1 slightly less)
runoff around 20%:
plant 1: 300ml PH 6.2 EC 0.74
plant 2: 400ml PH 6.1 EC 0.77
plant 3: 400ml PH 6.1 EC 0.91
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In the evening I did remove a bunch of lower budsites on plant 2. growth looks pretty slow, so I thought maybe this would speed up development on the main buds
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plant 1 got a lot more brown/black spots on the upper/bud leaves. Removing the older leaves didnt help much, Maybe it is indeed some sort of leaf fungus and it already did spread too much.
Anyway, looks like the plant is dying soon - I probably give her 1 maybe 2 weeks max. Just hope she will develop/ripen her buds enbough in the coming days. I think that I will stop feeding her now
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Week 8. Flowering
10mo ago
More photos +16
79 cm
18 hrs
27 °C
6.6
Normal
530 PPM
60 %
23 °C
23 °C
24 °C
11 L
1 L
30 cm
Nutrients 7
epsom salt 0.077 mll
Bloom Complex 2.5 mll
Phosphorus Plus 1.2 mll
taprootArmy 16.06.
No water today
plant 3 has decent progress, but is lighter green at the top of the plant
plant 2 buds growing very slowly
plant 1 didnt get worse at least, but also almost no progress
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17.06.
No water today
plant 1: Did remove quite a few leaves that had lots of brown black spots. especially at the buds
plant 2: nothing new
plant 3 did remove quite a few budsites blow the net; removed some dead leaves below the net
a lot of humidity today 60%+
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18.06.
I did 9L of full strength nutrient solution and fed it to all 3 plants. Plant 1 wasnt that thirsty though, probably because she already lost so many leaves.
Did decide to still give nutrients to plant 1 as she did grow her buds nicely and I think I can keep her alive for another week or maybe even two. This was her last feeding though.
Besides that, nothing new.
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19.06.
No water today
plant 1: A lot more damaged leaves with brown spots. Did remove the most damaged ones, but didnt want to remove too much as she already lost quite a lot of the upper leaves during the last days. I am just waiting for her to ripen the buds more and then I will harvest soon. She did develop an awesome aroma, so I am not too concerned. Even though she looks really disgusting, when I trime her leaves she will look nice and taste delicious.
plant 2: buds grow nicely. Increased amount of nutrients did look helpful.
plant 3: She took the nutrients really well and looks awesome. buds form nicely. A lot of pistils though, not surre whether that amount is a good or bad sign
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20.06.
No water today
Did check trichomes on plant 1 today, looks pretty milky on top, but a lot of clear ones in le lower parts and no brown ones, so I guess she needs another week or so.
Hope she will make it so far a the brown spots continue to spread.
A bit scared that it does spread to plant 2 because she needs at least 3 more weeks
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21.06.
No water for plant 1
Did mix 7L of nutrient solution (no powerZyme) and fed it to plant 2+3 (EC:1.06 PH:6.6)
Runoff plant 3:
PH: 5.8 EC: 1.06
Runoff plant 2:
PH: 5.9 EC: 0.89
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No water for 2/3
Normal tapwater for plant1 PH:8.3 EC 0.46
runoff: PH:6.5 EC: 0.65
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Week 9. Flowering
10mo ago
More photos +5
81 cm
18 hrs
29 °C
6.6
Normal
530 PPM
55 %
24 °C
24 °C
27 °C
11 L
1 L
30 cm
Nutrients 7
epsom salt 0.077 mll
Bloom Complex 2.5 mll
Phosphorus Plus 1.2 mll
taprootArmy 23.06.
No water today
plant 1: no amber trichomes yet. Still a lot of clear ones. Her smell is awesome. Upper leaves are all dying. I want to harvest, but the trichomes are not ready :(
plant 2: nice development, but pistils already start to get brown. Maybe it will be a lot of long thin buds.
plant 3: very good development. Her buds will be nice.
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24.06.
No Water for #1
8L of nutrient solution to plant 2+3...
Runoff:
#2: 400ml PH:5.9 EC: 0.99
#3: 500ml PH 5.9 EC: 1.13
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25.06.
No water
getting hot max 29° humidity around 50%
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26.06.
2.5L tapwater water for plant 1
runoff 300ml: 0.56 EC
No water for #2/3
Now lower leaves begin to die on plant #1 Trichomes still not ready 😬
even hotter max 31° humidity around 50%
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27.06.
In the morning the pots of #2 and #3 were really dry, but I had no time so I did decide to quickly give them 350ml tapwater each just to cover the hot summerday today.
In the evening I did mix 8L of nutrient solution (without powerZyme) and fed it to #2/3
runoff #2: 500ml EC: 1.09 PH:5.9 - 25°C
runoff #1: 550ml EC 1.15 PH6.0 - 25°C
No water for #1. She already lost most of her leaves and you notice that there isnt much of transpiration happening.
Most of her pistils are still white and trichomes are also not ready. I guess I'll give her till sunday and then chop.
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28.06.
No water - high temps (29-30°C) and humidity (58-63%)
DId increase the speed of the two fans to counteract that a bit.
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29.06.
No water even though #2 and #3 could already have some. DId decide against it as I want a little bit of dry stress.
even hotter 30°C+ but I did manage to stop the temp at 30° in the box.
still high humidity too (60%)
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Week 10. Flowering
10mo ago
82 cm
18 hrs
27 °C
6.6
Normal
540 PPM
55 %
24 °C
24 °C
24 °C
11 L
1 L
30 cm
Nutrients 7
epsom salt 0.077 mll
Bloom Complex 2.5 mll
Phosphorus Plus 1.2 mll
taprootArmy 30.06.
8L of water for #2 and #3
runoff #2: 400ml PH 5.9 EC 1.24
runoff #3: 300ml PH 5.9 EC 1.25
Removed a lot of dead leaves from plant #1. She doesnt have a lot of remaining leaves.
Trichomes are still not ready. Not sure what to do, but I guess I have to chop her anyways...
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01.07.
No water today
Did chop #1 today.. harvest report will follow.
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02.07.
I am growing the same on balcony! Your looks great :) But I can say that their genetics are not so stabile, some bushes are little bit different from others for me too...
Your watering seems good. The plants will handle way much better Dry period then overwatering. That's exactly what Im doing with mine flowers since I was overwatering my first-grow. When the leaves wilt/drops then they are just thirsty and it's time for watering. I do this like that with my grow now because of the fungus gnats (so I want dry period all the time tbh) and plants (now in flowering) sucking the water out of the soil like crazy. I water everyday now, around 0.5L water. Maybe bit more, maybe bit less. The pots are light like feathers every second day, completely dry.
@emanresU, I am not sure about that. Sure, I wont kill my plants..
But the day where they were extremely drooping, they had almost no growth and then they did need half a day to fully recover. After that, they did grow 3 cm yesterday. So to me it feels like I lost around 1 day of development drying them out like that.
You are true that dry is better than overwatering and I am still scared of that, but on the other hand I want to find that sweetspot where they are just able to develop with full power
yo, lookin good. I have just noticed you are using plastic pots (very similar to mine) and the problem with them is that they hold water/humidity/wetness for weeks... I thought Im watering a little bit every 3-4 days but it turns out it's all wet soil under the first 1-2cm of dried soil. I got Fungus Gnats because of that.
@emanresU, but isnt that the point to keep the water? If it is evaporating, then it is just increasing humidity. Maybe good in veg, but in flower I'd rather have the water in the pots and not in the air.
I dont have any problems with my plastic pots no pests and no soil temp or overwatering issues and watering once a week also saves quite a bit of time
fabric pots lying around too, probably will try them in the next grow, but my first impression is that I prefer plastic
btw. I have nematodes and neem oil lying around too, so I am prepared IF fungus gnats show up, but in fact I think plastic pots are indeed better against fungus gnats, because you can have a dry surface for much longer as the bottom half stays moist longer = less frequent watering
@Elyxion, Thanks, but plant 3 is not only late. She shows a lot of mutations. Leafs are really deformed, the whole plant is not symmetrical and kinda looks sick. It already started at germination with her strange asymmetrical cotyledons.
I might give her a few additional days, but probably will remove her out of fear that the weak plant attracts pests that could also affect the two healthy plants.
I am growing the same on balcony! Your looks great :) But I can say that their genetics are not so stabile, some bushes are little bit different from others for me too...
@yun23, thanks.
Well, one out of 3 did show mutations at first, but she did turn around and now is my best plant. Did look pretty stable for me - all 3 are complete bangers even though I almost fucked it up in flower and did flush too late...,
different phenos are normal as every seed has different gene pool.
If you want uniform plants you'll need clones from the same mother
@emanresU, thanks 😘
Last watering plant 1 already only got a runoff of EC: 0.65, so no real flush necessary.
Maybe I dont give any more water at all and let her dry out till the weekend - will decide tomorrow.
plant 2+3 get the full dose of fertilizer until bud development slows down significantly and then I try to starve them out during one week
@RasendeRollo92, Thanks man!
Have to be a bit more patient though. Will be a few days, maybe even a week until I can harvest the first one.
Maybe I will move her into the dark drying tent for 42h. Might speed up the ripening process
@bogus, Wenn mir das gefällt, dann schon irgendwann, bis jetzt war es schön zu growen.
Aber es warten noch einige Samen in meinem Kühlschrank. Nächster grow wird wahrscheinlich Super Lemon Haze von Green House Seeds oder vielleicht NYC Sour Diesel von RQS/Tyson... noch nicht entschieden
Your plants are looking nice and healthy. Barely any leaf tip "burn" either, which everyone seems to have at least a little. I think you are watering fine. You keep great track of everything and seems to have everything dialed and are on point. A prolonged dryback could have negative effects but it doesn't look like your plants got at a dangerously dry level that would affect your yield or anything. Sometimes a little stress will produce larger and better quality buds. Have fun growing!
@MindFlowers68, thank you for your kind words. 😘
One thing I did notice yesterday is that the drooping starts a few hours before their night time. The whole day the leaves were flat and stiff and around 3-4h before night time the drooping did start.
I'll try reducing the amount of light to 18/6.. maybe 4h of recovering isnt enough for the plants and they just become tired before their night time?
@emanresU, thanks 😘
Canopy could by more flat/even... currently trying to fill the middle without having to remove the net. I already did damage one or two small shoots while weaving plants into the net, so I'd rather not un- and redo the whole thing.
I'd be more gentle at first with my LST next time, but be more harsh later on. Plant 1 (lower amount of LST at first) did react MUCH better than plant 2 (as much LST as I could without having to fear a break)
Besides that, pretty pleased with my grow so far.
@James, thanks.
growth is a bit slower than I did expect seeing other timelapse videos from more experienced growers, but still ok for first grow I hope.
Plant 3 does worry me a bit