23.06.
No water today
plant 1: no amber trichomes yet. Still a lot of clear ones. Her smell is awesome. Upper leaves are all dying. I want to harvest, but the trichomes are not ready :(
plant 2: nice development, but pistils already start to get brown. Maybe it will be a lot of long thin buds.
plant 3: very good development. Her buds will be nice.
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24.06.
No Water for #1
8L of nutrient solution to plant 2+3...
Runoff:
#2: 400ml PH:5.9 EC: 0.99
#3: 500ml PH 5.9 EC: 1.13
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25.06.
No water
getting hot max 29° humidity around 50%
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26.06.
2.5L tapwater water for plant 1
runoff 300ml: 0.56 EC
No water for #2/3
Now lower leaves begin to die on plant #1 Trichomes still not ready 😬
even hotter max 31° humidity around 50%
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27.06.
In the morning the pots of #2 and #3 were really dry, but I had no time so I did decide to quickly give them 350ml tapwater each just to cover the hot summerday today.
In the evening I did mix 8L of nutrient solution (without powerZyme) and fed it to #2/3
runoff #2: 500ml EC: 1.09 PH:5.9 - 25°C
runoff #1: 550ml EC 1.15 PH6.0 - 25°C
No water for #1. She already lost most of her leaves and you notice that there isnt much of transpiration happening.
Most of her pistils are still white and trichomes are also not ready. I guess I'll give her till sunday and then chop.
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28.06.
No water - high temps (29-30°C) and humidity (58-63%)
DId increase the speed of the two fans to counteract that a bit.
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29.06.
No water even though #2 and #3 could already have some. DId decide against it as I want a little bit of dry stress.
even hotter 30°C+ but I did manage to stop the temp at 30° in the box.
still high humidity too (60%)
Hi,
first grow here. My automatics are at their 16th day above ground. I think I have to top one of my plants to keep her height in check. Where and when should I top her? should I rather only do LST or maybe even wait for now (but they are automatics, so I should be quick?)?
With Autoflowers you want to avoide as much stress to the plant as possible because you are on a set time of growth before its flower. Topping is considered stressful to the plant. However, some people do this and have good success.
Personally I always LST my Autoflowers and they turn out amazing. If I were you, I would simply pull down the plant to level out the canopy and keep pulling down the branches as they grow. This will open it up and cause more branches to get better light and in return produce amazing colas all over.
You can check out my Banana Purple Punch Diary to see how I LST my plants and then what they grew up to be.
I hope this helps.
Looks like my plants are growing towards the wall and not towards the middle where the light should be the best.
Why do the plants behave like that and what should I do?
Raise the net, rotate some of the plants, then redo the net?
Remove the net completely?
leave it as it is?
Actually plants tend to be taller when there is lack of light... If in the middle you have the brightest light that's normal that branches remain shorter.
Plant in the right corner stretched the most in the grow tent corner area.
Wild guess - she receives less light because of the fan.
Just measure PPFD in different parts of your grow tent and you'll see.
You have to rotate plants.
Try alternate position of the fan.
what should I do?
history:
21.05. Water with full dose of fertilizer
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26.05. Soil really dry - Water with half dose of fertilizer
27.05. Plants look super healthy (24°C 55-60%RLF)
28.05. started to droop (27°C 40-45%RLF)
29.05. even worse, (25°C 45%RLF), surface still moist
2 of my 3 plants are a bit yellow-ish at the top since about a week. Plant 1 also had a couple of sick leaves at the bottom that I did remove. Those leaves had brown/dark spots, felt dry like paper, had very purple stems and did smell more like hay. More info in my report.
Your plants are showing over feeding and deficiency symptoms.
You probably have nutrients lock out due to salt build up.
Check your run off EC and pH to confirm, flash the medium, adjust feeding.
I am growing the same on balcony! Your looks great :) But I can say that their genetics are not so stabile, some bushes are little bit different from others for me too...
Your watering seems good. The plants will handle way much better Dry period then overwatering. That's exactly what Im doing with mine flowers since I was overwatering my first-grow. When the leaves wilt/drops then they are just thirsty and it's time for watering. I do this like that with my grow now because of the fungus gnats (so I want dry period all the time tbh) and plants (now in flowering) sucking the water out of the soil like crazy. I water everyday now, around 0.5L water. Maybe bit more, maybe bit less. The pots are light like feathers every second day, completely dry.
@emanresU, I am not sure about that. Sure, I wont kill my plants..
But the day where they were extremely drooping, they had almost no growth and then they did need half a day to fully recover. After that, they did grow 3 cm yesterday. So to me it feels like I lost around 1 day of development drying them out like that.
You are true that dry is better than overwatering and I am still scared of that, but on the other hand I want to find that sweetspot where they are just able to develop with full power
yo, lookin good. I have just noticed you are using plastic pots (very similar to mine) and the problem with them is that they hold water/humidity/wetness for weeks... I thought Im watering a little bit every 3-4 days but it turns out it's all wet soil under the first 1-2cm of dried soil. I got Fungus Gnats because of that.
@emanresU, but isnt that the point to keep the water? If it is evaporating, then it is just increasing humidity. Maybe good in veg, but in flower I'd rather have the water in the pots and not in the air.
I dont have any problems with my plastic pots no pests and no soil temp or overwatering issues and watering once a week also saves quite a bit of time
fabric pots lying around too, probably will try them in the next grow, but my first impression is that I prefer plastic
btw. I have nematodes and neem oil lying around too, so I am prepared IF fungus gnats show up, but in fact I think plastic pots are indeed better against fungus gnats, because you can have a dry surface for much longer as the bottom half stays moist longer = less frequent watering
@Elyxion, Thanks, but plant 3 is not only late. She shows a lot of mutations. Leafs are really deformed, the whole plant is not symmetrical and kinda looks sick. It already started at germination with her strange asymmetrical cotyledons.
I might give her a few additional days, but probably will remove her out of fear that the weak plant attracts pests that could also affect the two healthy plants.
I am growing the same on balcony! Your looks great :) But I can say that their genetics are not so stabile, some bushes are little bit different from others for me too...
@yun23, thanks.
Well, one out of 3 did show mutations at first, but she did turn around and now is my best plant. Did look pretty stable for me - all 3 are complete bangers even though I almost fucked it up in flower and did flush too late...,
different phenos are normal as every seed has different gene pool.
If you want uniform plants you'll need clones from the same mother
@emanresU, thanks 😘
Last watering plant 1 already only got a runoff of EC: 0.65, so no real flush necessary.
Maybe I dont give any more water at all and let her dry out till the weekend - will decide tomorrow.
plant 2+3 get the full dose of fertilizer until bud development slows down significantly and then I try to starve them out during one week
@RasendeRollo92, Thanks man!
Have to be a bit more patient though. Will be a few days, maybe even a week until I can harvest the first one.
Maybe I will move her into the dark drying tent for 42h. Might speed up the ripening process
@bogus, Wenn mir das gefällt, dann schon irgendwann, bis jetzt war es schön zu growen.
Aber es warten noch einige Samen in meinem Kühlschrank. Nächster grow wird wahrscheinlich Super Lemon Haze von Green House Seeds oder vielleicht NYC Sour Diesel von RQS/Tyson... noch nicht entschieden
Your plants are looking nice and healthy. Barely any leaf tip "burn" either, which everyone seems to have at least a little. I think you are watering fine. You keep great track of everything and seems to have everything dialed and are on point. A prolonged dryback could have negative effects but it doesn't look like your plants got at a dangerously dry level that would affect your yield or anything. Sometimes a little stress will produce larger and better quality buds. Have fun growing!
@MindFlowers68, thank you for your kind words. 😘
One thing I did notice yesterday is that the drooping starts a few hours before their night time. The whole day the leaves were flat and stiff and around 3-4h before night time the drooping did start.
I'll try reducing the amount of light to 18/6.. maybe 4h of recovering isnt enough for the plants and they just become tired before their night time?
@emanresU, thanks 😘
Canopy could by more flat/even... currently trying to fill the middle without having to remove the net. I already did damage one or two small shoots while weaving plants into the net, so I'd rather not un- and redo the whole thing.
I'd be more gentle at first with my LST next time, but be more harsh later on. Plant 1 (lower amount of LST at first) did react MUCH better than plant 2 (as much LST as I could without having to fear a break)
Besides that, pretty pleased with my grow so far.
@James, thanks.
growth is a bit slower than I did expect seeing other timelapse videos from more experienced growers, but still ok for first grow I hope.
Plant 3 does worry me a bit