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Sativa Auto Outdoor Winter Grow Thailand

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1 week ago
Outdoor
Room Type
Soil
Medium
12-12 From Seed
Technique
FIMing
Technique
Photos & Videos
Grow Conditions
Week 13
Flowering
50
inch
cm
Height
19.69
inch
cm
Height
12 hrs
Light Schedule
37
°F
°C
Day Air Temperature
99
°F
°C
Day Air Temperature
6.6
pH
40%
Air Humidity
Normal
Smell
27
°F
°C
Night Air Temperature
81
°F
°C
Night Air Temperature
7.4
gal
l
Pot Size
28
gal
l
Pot Size
0.26
gal
l
Watering Volume Per Plant Per 24h
1
gal
l
Watering Volume Per Plant Per 24h
Nutrients
ml/l
ml/gal
tsp/gal
Pocon
4.93 ml/gal
ml/l
ml/gal
tsp/gal
Commented by Trying_in_Thailand Trying_in_Thailand
1 week ago

Another auto flower taboo - attempting to clone Amnesia XXL auto during mid flowering phase.

Every week is a new chapter. Heat is high and plants are already stretching. For Amnesia XXL, I poured in a little coconut water last week. Immediately, like in Jack and the bean stalk, A lower stub turned in to a hydra snake branch. Sugar leaves are stretching like crazy. My bad with strange tropical drink. Another issue is tripes. They started to show up. I can’t use and spray not that it is about a month away from harvest. So, I just use my thumb to smother tripes daily.

I read from @ExperimentalGREEN that it is better to trim off unproductive branches. So, I did. The trim looks too tempting to me. So I am trying to clone the trim branch by sticking it in a 5 liter pot.

I put a tupper ware container to top of the branch and call it a humidity dome. If the branch survive the moisture for a week, it'll be another journey into unfamiliar territory.

Dinamex Auto continues to impress me. She will likely take more weeks to finish.

Haze XXL auto is fattening up. She is a fat drawf. Again, it is not the strain that drawf, it is me. Seed from the same order is becoming a real monster autoflowering plant.

This week I am adding a little nute. 1 gram per liter of 9-14-34 fertilizer once pour on soil. No more spraying.

Grow Questions
Trying_in_Thailand week 2 started grow question 3 months ago
Would Goliath nutrients help make seedlings stronger in lower light setting?
Plant Stretch (big spaces between nodes)
Show all Answers (3)
ExperimentGREEN answered grow question 2 months ago
Hey thai...i dont think the type of nutrient matters at this moment, and probably less is more when they're so young. If you want to add anything to give them strength id aim towards kelp/seaweed product, mycorrhizal fungi, or maybe some sort of humic/fulvic acids...possibly a potassium silicate product(which helps build up immunity and strong stalks and also has a rep of fighting powdery mildew etc(its humid in thailand yes?). I heard a great saying and it probably applies to a lot of us.... Don't be a MORON as in don't keep putting More-on. Happy growing, i wish is was summer and sunny here :v:oh also its an autoflower....so definitely less is more.
HighTV answered grow question 3 months ago
Hey there @Trying_in_Thailand! To put it simply, the low levels of light can not be countered by better nutrients. Goliath nutrients like 'Mothers Milk' can be used to boost the plants resistances to its environment however not boost the effects of sunlight on them. Nutrients are only used by the plant when the plant wants them and the plant will not want to use as much nutrients without as much light. Its that simple. The best thing you can do is just to not overfeed and overwater, then the plant will be just fine! No worries about the light you cant change the sun! :sunglasses:
SpinnerCaribbean answered grow question 3 months ago
Hello bro ! Sorry but the reality is that NO feeding can help a plant over a Low light setting because the more nutrients you bring and the more light the plant will need to use them. The best exemple is the GHE Lucas formula , Lucas created a schedule for a normal light setting and in case of low light wattage he stated that that chart should be devided by 2. The light plays a big part in nutrients absurbtion , the plant will not be able to use the extra nutrients without extra light. I hope it will help you :grin::raised_hands:
Comments
Budrick
Budrick week 13

would for sure not have trimmed "unproductive branches" mid flower. How will that help in the time you have left? hope you get something out of it though!

growdoctordc
growdoctordc week 13

“I poured in a little coconut water last week. Immediately, like in Jack and the bean stalk, A lower stub turned in to a hydra snake branch. Sugar leaves are stretching like crazy. My bad with strange tropical drink.”

What’s strange about a coconut in Thailand?
Works like magic doesn’t it?!
And I hope you’re using a fresh coco, not processed and canned.
A coco is the world’s largest seed, and as a seed it contains everything a baby palm tree needs to get started on a healthy life. Its beneficial qualities for all plants are documented by the University of Australia.
An excerpt from the below link:

“The results suggest that, length of roots (52 %), the number of roots (63 %) and root initials (70%) plant height (28 %), number of branches (44 %) and number of leaves (70 %) increased withthe application of coconut water to the cuttings“

A more detailed analysis specified a 20% coconut water solution (1:5) is ideal, and produced better results than lower or higher percentages.
The most astonishing fact about coco water is that even if a plant was fed a 20% solution only as a seedling, it produced 25% more flowers than its non coco water fed counterparts. Go buy fresh coconuts!!

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/323384374_Effect_of_coconut_water_on_the_cutting_establishment_of_Ixora_Ixora_coccinea_L

Try... you said you grow autos cuz you can’t have 5 meter tall plants. Can’t you keep tying them down? Am I unrealistic? I’ve seen monsters in the Carib, and also would be monsters that were strapped down like prisoners to keep them beneath prying eyes. When they get head high, pin ‘em to the ground

Trying_in_Thailand
Trying_in_Thailand

@growdoctordc, wow! Did not know that people studied this. Thanks for you continuing support. Your knowledge is well appreciated. My bad was that I used the coconut water (fresh - of course, I am in the tropics) as it was. I should have diluted it to 20%.

As for the height- I can reduce about a foot by putting it right into the ground. I tied down side branches. A few days later only two of the five branches survived. Branches were ground so hard and the point near fulcrum just folded.
My line of sight limit the s around 5 foot. And this is an auto.

growdoctordc
growdoctordc

@Trying_in_Thailand,
Pure coco water is fine once in a while. Too sugary for full time use. It worked like magic, so she must have needed the nutrition.
It’s not my knowledge but I pass it along. Thankfully there is a ton of botanical research not directly cannabis related that we can refer to for improved results. University schools of agriculture are the most reliable sources. Toss those words into your search when you have a question and you’ll likely find a great answer!

Autos are more brittle aren’t they? They don’t care for training.

Trying_in_Thailand
Trying_in_Thailand

@growdoctordc, I looked up the paper on germination with coconut water. Very interesting. Next time before I start testing a folk lore, I'll check. It is a big world. And some one had likely tried almost everything somewhere before.

Are auto brittle? These are my first grows. I find them all challenging in different ways. As with all tools, each would fit a specific condition. For me, I'll pick what I like and how to do things eventually. At the moment, I am still exploring. methods and conditions.

I think I'll keep growing things all year. And I like starting seedlings inside a computer case at my office. I plan to grow two plants each month and keep the pipe line going.

Time wise, sativa auto will take me 5 months to finish while I think indica photo will take six. Veg period is more forgiving than flowering I think. So, about the period that it take, its no big difference to me to grow auto or a short indica.

I'll try an indica run next. Concern is more on wetness and the effect.

My real growing season will start in August/September. This way I would harvest during Jan-Feb which are the driest months in Thailand.

During the next few months, I shall be still setting up my gear and supply. And I want to see how things do during the rain storm season.

By fall, I should be ready for the real deal.

growdoctordc
growdoctordc week 13

This may be the single best nugget I have learned studying plants other than cannabis-
There are two flower industries: fresh flowers for visual and olfactory enjoyment- you know - an arrangement on a table. And flowers grown for their essential oils to be converted into fragrance.
That second one is the business we’re in! The ‘flowers for fragrance’ growers know how to induce oil production. A key method is to keep RH 30-35% during flower, and late in flower let the plants get a little drier than they would for optimal visual effect if they were selling the flowers. Of course, water only with 20% coco water.
There all kine stoner stories that somewhat address this, like the one about driving a stake through the main root. That’s a terrible idea because of the stress. But the concept of depriving moisture to induce the plant to create its own moisture is sound!

growdoctordc
growdoctordc week 13

I learned here that autos more frequently snap under training than do Indy and Sativa. Gotta be something to do with the Ruderalis gene having developed in the harsh climate of the arctic and subarctic. Traditional SE Asian strains were pure Sativa for thousands of years. I hope they still prevail wild where you and Bulbi are.
I’m surprised your Sativa dominants take longer than Indy. That’s F’d up and indicates aberrations associated with rampant cross breeding.
Your diaries are fun to follow. Happy growing, amigo.
——
Historical note for those interested.
The US war on drugs of the Nixon administration was paralleled by the actual war in Vietnam. Many US soldiers returning home brought dynamite weed with them, and their port of entry was often San Francisco. Weed was smoked. Seeds were kept and passed around. The NorCal cannabis industry was thus birthed.

Trying_in_Thailand
Trying_in_Thailand

@growdoctordc, ah i see. Now i understand better about breaking under simple training.

Traditional name + auto ain't land race.

Here, there are some movements to maintain the traditional line but it is neither nor practical for city hobbyist like me to get.

I am glad you enjoy my diaries. To me, each week is like "huh! now what?". Different things are keep happening. But I do enjoy this. If I know what I were doing, then I would not have created problems to solve in the first place.

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