Moondog7 Mephisto sent me Hubbabubbasmelloscope and enclosed 2 Ghost Toof seeds as " freebies." Germinated both in distilled water, sprouted with vigor in 24 hours. Planted in peat starter pot. No advantage to peat pot. Hubba bubba and GT handled identically. The GT had a habit of leaves curling under, I suspect my Ph was too high.