This will be the first time I've grown out these genetics. I've been kind of locked into another breeder, but when I saw these beans, I had to give them a try. Basically I could only afford to grab 4 strains, I cracked 15-20 beans, sexed them and ended up with (1) Concord & Creme female. (2) Paradise Circus females (5) Malibu Marsha females and (2) Vanilla Gorilla females. It was June when I cracked them, I won't be topping or really even touching them this season. They went into the ground on July 4th and were approximately 3" tall in 3"cups, they were tiny, but were nice little plugs that took all of about 2 minutes a piece to transplant. I'm growing them out in hopes that I find a strain that really likes it up here, and is the fire it's supposed to be. If it is, it'll show it in this garden. So far so good. I'll post some pictures here in the near future.