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06/11 - Day 15 Upping the nutrients this week. Going to jump up by about 0.375 EC, might burn them a little but lets see if they can handle it. Theyre getting big now :) Comments? Is it too much of a jump? 09/11 - Day 18 Mixed another 10L of mix. Plants are enjoying the extra nutrients as well as the stronger LED light - we are now 65cm above the canopy with about 120w being pulled from the wall (roughly 75-80%) Healthy growth. No signs of deficiencies. 10/11 - Day 19 Plants are now wider than the pots, still very squat. Feeding once a day in the evenings. Considering watering twice a day from day 20 on wards. Need to get some more growth so the plants have a good foundation for big buds! But this is all a work in progress. Mistakes were made and plants are smaller compared to other grows im seeing but each grow will get better and i still think these plants have good potential. I want to bend them over tomorrow to get the smaller internodal shoots growing to the light. The plants are quite compact and have tight internodal spacing.
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Grow Questions
skoondawg
skoondawgstarted grow question 5 years ago
How far to keep QB from tops of seedlings at 150w or dimmed at 50%? I can dim from about 30-150watt.
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Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimaranswered grow question 5 years ago
getting new lights is always like..... how far the lights away from the seeedlings. Normally light companies give recommendations. as iam growing with similar lights ( quantum boards), i agree to you if you say, its tricky. And i would do it like... less is more until you found the right distance. I would start with around 80 cm and look how the lil ones respond. Or you dimm down to 30 watt, then you can go to around 15-20 cm.Its a great tool to dimm the lights. And the seedlings need a quite "weak" light. I most time use my secret jardin led ( each has 26 watt) to rise the little ones. In my Previous grow iam having same problem like you, i have new lights and dont know the accurate distance for the little ones.. So i start with 1 meter distance ( i got 150 watt Quantum board).... and then i look how they grow. if they get to leggy i lower the lights by 10 cm. iam guessing for 65-70 cm would be the optimal distance for my Girls in seedlingsstage. If they are 3 week old i go with the recommended distance from the lightcompany.
skoondawg
skoondawgstarted grow question 5 years ago
As these are auto's and i want to stress them as little as possible. Should i or should i not take off the really big fan leaves that are covering at least 2 or 3 potential tops. I know the leaf is doing a good job being there but i also am not really able to tuck the leaf?
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Techniques. Defoliation
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Master_weeda
Master_weedaanswered grow question 5 years ago
Hello bro Yes is possible it's defolliation technique Defoliation involves strategically removing leaves from growing cannabis plants to locate resin production and improve yields at harvest time. Heading or topping, mainlining and lollipopping, schwazzing are well known applications of defoliation. Even cleaning by removing yellowing or damaged leaves is a form of defoliation When you decide to defoliate, the choice of applied technique is yours. Each one increases the yield in a similar way, only the silhouette of the plants differs. Factors to consider are genetics, volume of culture space and light intensity. Defoliation in general can be used on non-trellised plants to increase light penetration and airflow, rather than using any specific technique. Leaves that interfere with light penetration are removed during the life of the plant at the choice of the grower. Even during flowering. Cannabis flowers are incredibly effective for photosynthesis and will recover soon after defoliation. It's a magical art to manage the ratio of defoliation to the need for perspiration. Too much of it over-fertilizes your plants, exposing them to nutrient stress. When too many leaves are removed and the effectiveness of transpiration is interrupted, nutrients can accumulate in the root zone, causing a burn or blockage of nutrient absorption. The nutrient dosage should be adjusted to match the less demanding plants until they have recovered. The experience will eventually give you the right measure of the volume of greenery in the growing space. May the force be with you πŸ’ͺ
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Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 5
They are growing very Vigor
AsNoriu
AsNoriu
@skoondawg, growdiaries.com/diaries/27468-dr-krippling-incredible-bulk/week/130346 Photo number 7 or 8 240w Two of them 3000 one 3500 All b301 Would go for one with red striping, but now its too late, my setup is finished till brakedown, hope after 5 years or so ... ;))
skoondawg
skoondawg
@AsNoriu, agreed, but they're beginning to grow quite vertical now, as if theyre stretching for more light. What wattage of QB do you run? :) I currently have them about 60cm and 90%, theyre starting to flower now
AsNoriu
AsNoriu
@skoondawg, lights too close, they are not growing, they are migeting ;)
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Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 3
I think the NL can handle the upping of the nutrients, its a resiliant strain
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 1
Hi i would look for the recommondations of the Lightcompany and add some distance. But i think bettr way is to dimm them to around 50 watt and get closer to them ( begin with around 25-30cm....... and watch them.....the good thing is you have to find it out only one time......the you know how strong the lights are. And those quantumboards are powerful, not the heat is the danger but the high quality light output. How big is your tent=? your lights should be great for 1meter x1 meter ( 3 "x3")... Iam growing with similar lights here..growdiaries.com/diaries/42326-club-riot-seeds-sicario-automatic-grow-journal-by-mrs-larimar-growdiaries . girls are already showing up today
skoondawg
skoondawg
@Spazmagi, Yo yo my dude, shot for subbing! I had the light at about 75 and at full power and then about 75% and i dont know, just felt like something was stunting the growth and being relatively new (only harvested twice before this sometime ago) i thought it could be the lights. So went for the safest bet - put them low and dimmed down to about 20000 lumens using my phone light meter. They seem to be enjoying it and i think ill get good compact plants as you say. Yeah im familiar with the SP150, lot of people growing with them! Looks a great light. I have the 288's with a 150w MW driver, so i can ramp the power up a bit more than the 135w V2 spec. Less efficiency but a bit more power, Hopefully will result in some dank ass kolas! Thanks man, see you around for sure!
Spazmagi
Spazmagi
@skoondawg, Consider me subbed for this run! My first instinct is to tell you to set the QB lights about 30" (75cm), but I like all the advice given. Dimming the lights down and dropping that height as close as possible without burn is best since it will keep internodal distance down as much as possible. I was given two Mars Hydro SP150 grow lights which are QB-style led panels, just a little more compact diode placement. More like the QB-288 as opposed to the QB-120 (if you are familiar with the HLG product spectrum). I wish you the best of luck and am looking forward to seeing how your grow turns out. Happy Growing!
skoondawg
skoondawg
@Mrs_Larimar, thanks for the answer to the question. I think you are spot on about less is more, especially for seedlings. I think i went a bit too hard on them in the beginning, but ive tuned it down now a lot. might even lower it more and dim even more to 30w like you say. New light, new challenges haha. We will figure it out
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Denzul
Denzulweek 12
Oh baby them some big beautiful buds you got there! Great work. Keep up the good work and best of luck with the rest of the grow my friend.
Denzul
Denzul
@skoondawg, heard nothing but good things about quantum boards. I am dying to get my hands on a few
skoondawg
skoondawg
@Denzul, thanks mate! This 150w quantum board sure packs a punch. Can't wait to see the yield.
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 4
Iam not sure of your Light distance, girls growing very dense with ashort internodial distance. That means the light is atm to strong// to close on them. If they dont change that growstyle ( dense and short distance of internodes, rise your light for more stretch ( you need place for flowers)^^ greetings
skoondawg
skoondawg
@Mrs_Larimar, I thought about that. First grow i guess i will learn along the way. Currently she is 65cm away at about 140w. I will turn the power down a little :P Thank you for the advice :)
BuddingBudda
BuddingBuddaweek 1
Haha nice idea with the bottom of bottles for a little green house, thats what i always do at this stage. Gets them some extra humidity. Looking forward to seeing what those lights can do. I would never go 100% power on seedlings its a waste of energy, just lower your power and move the lights closer if theyre getting too leggy. Last thing you would want to do is frazzle those things and they really do not need a lot of light at such an early stage. Check out my RQS Nothern Light auto ive got, it will show you what youve got to look forward to πŸ‘Œ
skoondawg
skoondawg
@BuddingBudda, hey BB! Thanks for dropping by. I have done exactly that. I have moved the light down to about 30cm (12inch) and lowered the power down to 30w. They seem to like it. This morning i saw a bit of new growth. So they are moving along! Will definitely go check your grow out right now. Did she grow quite tall? Lots of stretch? Im gonna have to keep all three ladies as short as possible and hoping the buds will stack extra dank and denseπŸ˜‡
Cannibalgardens
Cannibalgardensweek 1
Looking good man going to follow along ...
skoondawg
skoondawgweek 6
Anyone wanna give me estimate on what they think i will harvest dry? 160w Quantum Board Also anyone wanna estimate how much more they will grow vertical? Thanks!
DinafemSeeds
DinafemSeedsweek 7
It looks like I've found this diary just as the fun is about to begin πŸ‘ Best of luck with our Auto Cookies and Auto Sour Diesel my friend πŸ€— We like what we see so far so keep up the great work πŸ‘Š All the best ✌️ Mark..
skoondawg
skoondawg
@DinafemSeeds, Thanks for joining 😬. Looking forward to both of these dinafem strains the most! πŸ˜›Any insight on how long the SD will stretch for?
Kid_Colombia
Kid_Colombiaweek 8
wooow looks amazing!! im on week 2 right now and i'd love some feedback from an experienced grower like you
Master_weeda
Master_weedaweek 5
Hello my friend I answered your grow question as seriously as possible 😊 If the answer suits you can you validate it Please? πŸ‘ if you need advice do not hesitate good luck for your culture May the force be with you πŸ’ͺpm
AsNoriu
AsNoriuweek 5
Your light is too close still. I have QB , when i veg them i keep 40 cm away and 50% for first two weeks of veg, later 50 cm and 75. When i put them to flower its 60 and 100. But from that point i dont move lights. Had like 10 cm max from light still no bleaching or taco leaf... And forget that its your last lst, with your space, you will be working for 3 weeks more ;)
dr_Thompson
dr_Thompsonweek 2
you can increase the ppm to increase the growth rate ;)
DinafemSeeds
DinafemSeedsweek 12
Entering the home stretch now with our Auto Cookies and Auto Sour Diesel πŸ€— Not long now my friend and it's harvest time πŸ‘Š Looking great in here πŸ‘ All the best ✌️ Mark..
DinafemSeeds
DinafemSeeds
@skoondawg, That's one reason I thought it may not be an option mate πŸ™‚ Your making the right decision. Take the 2 Dinafem girl's as far as you can then harvest the NL at the same time πŸ‘ You won't lose any yield only trichome maturation in the final day's πŸ€— All the best ✌️ Mark..
skoondawg
skoondawg
@DinafemSeeds, ideally I would like to do that, but there's no where else to dry the other two ladies if I do that. So next best option is to harvest when 2/3 are ready. Maybe I will wait a bit longer. We will see how the trichomes develop.
DinafemSeeds
DinafemSeeds
@skoondawg, could you not harvest the 2 Dinafem girl's then leave the NL another say 5-7 day's? It may not be a viable option but I thought I would suggest it πŸ‘ All the best ✌️ Mark..
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TheMachinist
TheMachinistweek 12
One of my NL Auto's isn't having a good time either. The bud's are narrower and thinner than the other 2 I have growing.
skoondawg
skoondawg
@TheMachinist, yeah my NL was ahead of the other two but after defoliating her a bit too hard she got stressed out and slowed her down a week or two. I'll take a look at your grow :)
Buddha2
Buddha2week 13
Congratulations! Great result! Enjoy πŸ˜„
BIGBUDZ450
BIGBUDZ450week 10
Nice grow, well done !!! CHEERS AND HAPPY GROWING!!!