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weeks 5-14
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Week 1. Vegetation
5 years ago
7.62 cm
18 hrs
25 °C
6
No Smell
450 PPM
70 %
27 °C
27 °C
114 L
60.96 cm
I am experimenting with fogponics; not going to go with just it the whole way. But I do want to veg at least halfway using fogponics. I am using a 6-head mistmaker, set on 15-min ON/OFF intervals. It does raise the rez temperature quite a bit. I do have a water chiller unit, but man electricity bill is gonna suck. So we'll see how it goes. My plan right now is to use Fogponics, up until the point where the roots have gotten long enough to reach the rez, I'll then convert to DWC. I initially soaked 2 seeds, but only 1 survived. So after waiting another 3 days I soaked and popped another seed. This one worked, and now I have 2. Let's call them Kate & Pippa. I've heard good things about DNA Seeds' Blood Orange Sorbet strain. My plan is to veg these 2 seedlings until they fill the entire tent. For this grow, I am taking a couple of lesson learnt from my previous grows: - If I'm going to change light during the grow, then I need to have the really heavy light already set up. So I'll just have to take out the smaller one underneath. - Have an at least semi automatic rez change & circulation mechanism. Thing is, when the plant is big enough, it becomes really difficult to mess with the rez directly - Have at least 2 netting. One of the bottom, one closer to the top colas to support the plant Well, everything is in place. So let's do this! EDIT: I am so SORRY the pictures are all really so very blurply. This 200W I have is all blurple, and the room's normal light is not working right now, and flash photography gives really sucky pics because the clingwrap reflects the flash.. As soon as I sort this out, I'll have better pictures.
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Week 2. Vegetation
5 years ago
7.62 cm
18 hrs
25 °C
6
No Smell
500 PPM
70 %
24 °C
27 °C
136 L
76.2 cm
I'm cutting the fogponics experiment short. The rez temperature is unmanageable to me. It rose as high as 32 degC, and the only thing saving my plant up until now is that the roots have not reached the water yet. Even so, now that the leaves have developed a bit more, I see some deformity on the leaves developed during the last week. Can't be sure, but I suspect those were caused by the fogponics heat stress. We'll see. I must say though, the root growth is the best I've seen, compared to just straight to DWC, with air bubbles penetrating the hydroton. Usually what I'd end up with is one single long root. Instead, there are multiple root hairs, and multiple long strands. I think for my next grow I'll rig up a kind of simple low pressure aeroponic setup within my current 36 gallon tote. Ideally I can switch between the aeroponics mode and DWC mode easily. So I moved it to the final DWC rez. It's a huge 36 gallon tote, and I hope that this will give me the freedom to be out of town on extended periods without worry. After a couple of days in the new tote, I also changed the light to my 600W Optic4 LED. Right now only the COBs are on. I will turn on the bloom boosters when the plant is bigger. This week not much happened. Kate and Pippa are chugging along, growing roots, growing nodes. Last week, kate is only just starting to develop it's 3-leafs node. This week it is starting to develop it's 5-leafs node. As for Pippa, last week it was still developing its single leaf node. This week, it is in the middle of developing the 3-leafs node. Now that they have had a few strands of roots, and are in the middle of DWC, I'm expecting good things. Nute concentration is currently at 500ppm, and grow light is 30" away. During this coming week, I will just maintain the nute concentration, but gradually lower the light to 24" distance.
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Week 3. Vegetation
5 years ago
7.62 cm
18 hrs
25 °C
5.6
No Smell
600 PPM
70 %
22 °C
23 °C
136 L
76.2 cm
Nutrients 1
Generic AB hydroponic nute 5 mll
I didn’t do rez change at all this week, but I did adjust the pH early in the week. It was at 7, and I moved it down to 5.6. Also increased nute ppm slightly from 500 to 600 ppm. Kate and Pippa are growing nicely. I topped both plants down to its 3rd node on Friday. Both plant took a slight shock it seems, but they have now recovered and chugging along. I plan to do some manifolding. It’s a quiet week. Not much happening. More to come in 1 or 2 weeks as we will start training the plant more extensively.
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Week 4. Vegetation
5 years ago
7.62 cm
20 hrs
22 °C
5.6
No Smell
550 PPM
50 %
22 °C
24 °C
136 L
76.2 cm
Nutrients 1
Generic AB hydroponic nute 5 mll
The beginning of the week, I changed the rez and adjusted the nute to 550ppm. I also lowered my light from 30" to 22", but found symptoms of heat stress at the middle of the week. I raised it back to 30" and instead increased the time cycle from 18/6 to 20/4. The plant seems to be responding well. I started training Kate at the middle of the week, supercropping the two tops to form a manifold (Sirius style). So from each of the two main branches, I will keep the odd-numbered leaves and budsites. I plan to have 3 pairs of bud sites on each branch, which works out to 12 main colas per plant. If at the end I still have room, I might push it to 16 colas per plant. Kate responded very well to the training and exploded in growth nearing the end of the week. Pippa is truly a good sister and is just trailing her older sister. They were germinated 4 days apart, and I apply the same spacing to train the two. I supercropped and formed the manifold for Pippa at the end of the week. It seemed to like it. I use wooden dowels duct-taped to the container to form the main horizontal split for manifolding. The branch is attached to the dowel using bonsai wires. The game plan here is to form the manifold, fix them with the dowels as skeleton, and then use the scrog net to fill up the rest of the tent. Ideally they will veg another 1-2 weeks at most, during which the light period will gradually decrease to 12-12, at which time flowering officially begins. The future is looking very bright.
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JKT48
JKT48started grow question 5 years ago
Dear experts, could you help me ascertain whether the 4th and 5th picture on my Week4 diary is really heat stress? The only reason I think that is because of that slight cupping/curling of the leaf edges. Might there be other problems that could cause this?
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Leaves. Curl up
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Vincent11answered grow question 5 years ago
Hi JKT48 I think you doing a amazing job so far. It really looks like slight heat Stress Or Light stress but don't think anything to worry you. You adjusted the lights all ready. So this should help. Only interesting thing is heath stress on 22 C day temperature. So possible slight light stress. Some strains occasionally have a tendency towards curly leaves more than others or sometimes odd traits. Hope this helps grow mate. And good luck with your grow.
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Week 5. Vegetation
5 years ago
10.16 cm
20 hrs
22 °C
5.6
No Smell
550 PPM
50 %
20 °C
24 °C
136 L
76.2 cm
Nutrients 1
Generic AB hydroponic nute 5 mll
Another week of no rez change. Man I love DWC in a large tub. They are growing fine; not very fast, but I'd say at a satisfactory pace. I'll have to do rez change next week though. The leaves have gotten a little too dark green for my taste. I did add quite a bit 32-10-10 NPK nute for the last rez change. I have lowered the scrog net and have continued training and trimming large fan leaves that block budsites. Currently the tent is not even 25% full. At the pace this is going, I'm guessing maybe I could flip in 2 weeks? We shall see. This coming week I will change the grow light to the 1000W LED, in anticipation of flowering. After the plants acclimatize to that, I'll reduce the light schedule back to 18/6.
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Week 6. Vegetation
5 years ago
12.7 cm
18 hrs
25 °C
5.8
No Smell
850 PPM
50 %
20 °C
24 °C
136 L
76.2 cm
Nutrients 1
Generic AB hydroponic nute 5 mll
Changed rez at the start of the week. This time I just added Cal-Mag as usual, then straight hydro nute without the 32-10-10 addition. I upped the concentration to 850 ppm, however. It seems the plant like it, as a couple of days later I can see that the new growths have a much more normal looking bright green instead of the previously dull dark green. I also changed the light to my 1000 W LED. This thing raised my tent's temp to 25 degC; and that's without the veg or bloom booster yet. I'll run the COBs only, see how the plant does for another week or so before turning on the booster LEDs. I screwed up a lot during this week's defoliation and training efforts. Snapped 2-3 significant colas, irreparable. It's just that the stems are really thick; really hard to supercrop. Note for next run: Can't wait until the last minute to do training. Gotta do this daily. Regardless, the end result is the last 3 pics. But this is not finished yet; I had to depart for a 3 days business trip. We'll see how the plant looks like in 3 days. I don't think I can flip this to flowering by next week. Probably end of week 8.
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Week 7. Vegetation
5 years ago
15.24 cm
16 hrs
25 °C
5.8
No Smell
850 PPM
50 %
20 °C
24 °C
136 L
76.2 cm
Nutrients 1
Generic AB hydroponic nute 5 mll
I came back at the middle of the week to a moderately bushy plant. Defoliated it again, and gave it the final training before flowering. I also further reduced the light period to 16/8. I got 4 clones from this, and I'd like to try doing my next grow from these clones. I've done cloning before (to give to friends), but never tried growing them. Near the end of the week the girls have recovered fully, and so I flipped it to 12/12. I did notice that the new growth are a tiny bit too light colored, so I put in some extra 32-10-10 growmore NPK nute to boost the Nitrogen. Now that I think about it, I could have just used more Calcium Nitrate, but it's fine I guess. The journey to flowering has begun! Now it's gonna be even more fun. Since I have two plants that pretty much behave the same way, I want to do a side-by-side experiment. I will try schwazzing on Kate (right), which is a really extreme defoliation technique where I strip pretty much all it's fan leafs, at 1 & 3 weeks mark. I will do the 1st week stripping tonight, the first night of the official flowering week to only Kate. As for Pippa (Left), I will let it be relatively bushy, and only do a normal strategic defoliation. Both plants will get a some lollipopping done too; not too much since the plant is already pretty low and squat already. I am not interested in determining whether it will give more budsites (quantity); I know for sure that they do. But the promise is that extreme defoliation will give fatter buds (quality), so we shall see.
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Week 8. Flowering
5 years ago
20.32 cm
12 hrs
25 °C
5.8
Normal
750 PPM
50 %
20 °C
24 °C
136 L
76.2 cm
Nutrients 1
Generic AB hydroponic nute 5 mll
So in the very beginning of the week I did schwazzing on Pippa (left), and only strategic defoliaton on Kate. Supposedly, at 3 weeks flowering, I am to repeat the schwazzing again. From this first week, however, I notice that Schwazzing might have played a significant role in mitigating flowering stretch. I can see that the schwazzed plant stretches much less compared to the one that was only minimally defoliated. In that case, maybe a better strategy is to just defoliate strategically at the beginning of the flowering, and then continuously defoliate according to how much stretch I want. Then, once the stretch is done, I could semi-schwazze again in order to expose all the budsites to light. I might do this to Kate. Still haven't changed my rez this week, but the girls seem to still be doing fine. I should change the rez at the end of next week though, probably.
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Week 9. Flowering
5 years ago
22.86 cm
12 hrs
25 °C
5.8
Normal
750 PPM
50 %
20 °C
24 °C
136 L
76.2 cm
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Generic AB hydroponic nute 5 mll
I noticed the pistils on the top colas early in the week. Flowering is fully under way. I did a stupid mistake this week; my drain line's valve wasn't closed properly, so I accidentally drained the entire reservoir and let it empty for more than half a day. Luckily I checked the plant when the lights were turning on, and noticed that the girls were droopy. So I ended up having to mix my reservoir. Oh well, about time anyways; it's been 3 weeks since I last changed my rez. At any rate, this week has been a gradual defolation effort. Not on prupose; I'd love to do it all in one go. It's just, I only have 5-10 mins each day to take care of the girls, so gradual it is. The principle here, is that now the stretching (regardless how minimal it was) is done, I'm defoliating less aggressively in order to open up all those budsites to more light. I mostly leave the very bottom fan leaves alone, because it's not hurting anyone. The side-by-side experiment of aggresive vs minimum defoliation is still a go, as can be seen in the pictures; how differently I treat the two girls.
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Week 10. Flowering
5 years ago
48.26 cm
12 hrs
25 °C
5.8
Normal
750 PPM
50 %
20 °C
24 °C
136 L
55.88 cm
Nutrients 1
Generic AB hydroponic nute 5 mll
Whoa, i have no idea what's happening. The girls stretched pretty good within this last week. This is the 3rd week of flowering, so I expected the stretch to be over. Could it be that they stretched so much because I didn't do any defoliation this week? Either way, I'll have to do some defoliation because the vegetation is getting dense in there. Probably will do it tonight. I also found that the plant height is now 19", with lamp distance of 22". That distance is a little too close for my taste, but it seems there is no adverse reaction yet, so I'll just keep an eye on it for now. Another thing I have learned is that I had been over-vegging in my last grows. When I flipped this to flower, I thought I was being too rash, because each of the two girls seemed to only have occupied 25% of the tent. But it turns out both have now just barely filled up the tent. I'll keep this in mind next time, the stretch is not to be underestimated.
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Week 11. Flowering
5 years ago
55.88 cm
12 hrs
25 °C
5.8
Normal
750 PPM
40 %
20 °C
24 °C
136 L
60.96 cm
Nutrients 1
Generic AB hydroponic nute 5 mll
I decided I was too lazy to defoliate any further. I'm just gonna let this grow continue as is. The stretch continued a little bit through this week, and seems to slow down during the last 2 days. The sugar leaves are starting to be covered in trichome, and I really like what I'm seeing. Things are looking good. Right at the end of the week I see that the leaves have started clawing slightly and there are some bleaching on the leaves. I'm guessing light stress, probably coupled with wind burn and heat stress. So I raised the light from 19" to 24". I know for sure it's not Nitrogen toxicity, because right now the nutes in the rez is quite depleted. ~350 ppm only left, which is surprising to me, because at the start of the week I spiked the rez with flowering nutes to 800 ppm. What's happening here? I'm gonna have to do a rez change very soon. Don't want the girls to starve!
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Week 12. Flowering
5 years ago
55.88 cm
12 hrs
25 °C
5.8
Normal
750 PPM
40 %
20 °C
24 °C
136 L
60.96 cm
Nutrients 1
Generic AB hydroponic nute 5 mll
I've changed the rez at start of the week with heavier proportion of 10-30-30 nute, at ~1200 ppm. The plant doesn't seem to object at all, so I'm keeping it. The stretching have completely stopped. Looking at the buds, I probably have another 4 weeks at least. So in 2 weeks I will do another rez change at 1200 ppm still, and another rez change 2 weeks after that at 600ppm. I do want to flush, so I'll adjust accordingly after that, and end with just plain water. Kate (right) is the bigger plant, but in terms of frostiness, Pippa (left) wins by far. I can't wait to see how they'll turn out.
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JKT48
JKT48started grow question 5 years ago
The buds aren't fat at all. Considering my tent is 1x1 meter (~3x3 ft), how much yield do you guys think I could expect? It's just fun to play the guessing game.
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igrowtomatoesanswered grow question 5 years ago
9 ounces, if im right be sure to comment back in a month
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YoungSmokeanswered grow question 5 years ago
About 5-10 oz.
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RastaMouse
RastaMouseanswered grow question 5 years ago
Well my room is 1m x half m and I can get anywhere from 9 oz to 15 oz. but your not giving your plants enough nutrients from what I can see bro. Basic flower nutrients will not give you big yields you need bud boosts ect.
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Week 13. Flowering
5 years ago
55.88 cm
12 hrs
25 °C
5.8
Normal
750 PPM
40 %
20 °C
24 °C
136 L
60.96 cm
Nutrients 1
Generic AB hydroponic nute 5 mll
Barely even looked in the tent this week, my workload is getting insane. But I was glad to see the plant doing okay. Not much discernible difference compared to last week. The bud is getting frostier, but not much size change. HOWEVER, the smell, oh the smell's amazing. Opened up my tent and actually smelled citrus peels, like lime! O Gods of Cannabis, please let this be even more citrus-y all the way to curing! At the end of the week, the water remaining in my rez was only half, so I topped up with plain tap water until ~85% capacity. I haven't checked pH and TDS for 2 weeks now. I will probably have to do a mid-week rez change, keeping ppm at 1200 ppm, but spike the nute with MKP. This should be the last rez change with high concentration.
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Week 14. Flowering
5 years ago
55.88 cm
12 hrs
25 °C
5.8
Normal
1500 PPM
40 %
20 °C
24 °C
136 L
60.96 cm
Nutrients 1
Generic AB hydroponic nute 5 mll
Didn’t get to take the overall pics, but here are some macro shots using a cheapo phone lens. Looks like I’m 2 weeks, at most 3 weeks, away from harvest. I see a number of the trich heads are cloudy, no ambers in sight yet though. This whole week I didn’t get a chance to change the rez. Early next week maybe. So I’m thinking another week and a half with lower nutes. After that, flushing.
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