so far so good. got some cuttings of mango saphire off a friends beautifull mother plant and put one aside to have as a mother for myself.. I will be doing a sog set up in the end and hopefully it all goes well. my set up is a 1m x 1m x 2m with 4 x 55w cob led and your usual intake outtake set up using 11litre pots bit smaller than what I'm used to using, I try to stick to 20l + normally.