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wreckbeast wreckbeast
5 years ago
Purchased 2 BlackJack clones from Dark Heart Nursery. They had been sitting out in the open air of a local dispensary for about a month, but they seem extremely vigorous. 8.5 inches tall, and lots of white/light tan roots. They were my only option, and I hope they dont have any pests due to the mishandling. If they don't workout, i should have some seeds in a week or so. MY PLAN Organic - I am planting them in a mix of 30% FFOF, 30% vital earth compost, %30% Coco, %10 perlite. I have these items for nutrients: roots organics teas (terp tea bloom/grow, phos guano, foundation), worm castings, kelp extract, roots organic elemental (minerals), and any other organic nutrients/microbes that i pickup. MEDIUM I am somewhat lazy about watering and saw a reddit post about someones using a similiar ratio of soil to coco and perlite (60/30/10) and them using blumats. Basically, i want to keep my medium wet, and my microbes happy, but utilizing the coco and perlite to keep my roots getting enough oxygen, I'm hoping I can water over this setup with compost teas, and add top dressings to feed. i am expecting moderately tall plants (my tent is 8" tall) so I'm thinking 7 gallon fabric pots. ENVIRONMENT My environment is mostly dialed in, but runs somewhat warm, (avg 77). I need to find a small ac. I have a humidity solution already. Tent is a 2x4 Gorilla with extension. Hyperfan 6" piped to window for exhaust. LIGHT BCBlondes gamechanger 340 quantum board. Seems very powerful, I'm starting transplants a %50 power, 36" from canopy. INITIAL TRANSPLANT 30% FFOF, 30% Vital Earth compost, 30% Coco, 10% Perlite. 1 gallon pots (I plan to transplant to 7 gallons before flower). Watered in with RO water with a splash of kelp extract. INITIAL STRATEGY Clones are pretty tall... At first, i wanted to train them only with lst, but i think ill have to slow them down with topping first. So I'll top when they recover from transplanting and are rooted, and then start lst when they recover from that. The goal is a bushed out plant about four feet tall, so im thinking 4-5 weeks of veg should work if they continue to grow vigorously. ++++++++DAY #3++++++++ Plants are showing purple stems and petioles towards the top... Is this transplant shock, or did I use too rich a potting mix? Ph could also be a culprit; do organic composts run acidic? ++++++++DAY #4++++++++ Thrips! I only found a few, and identified them directly before i noticed leaf damage. As you can see in the picture, it was a big adult i found. I had thrips on my previous grow, but the tent has been vacant for about 1.5 weeks, and was washed multiple times with various bleach and H202 dilutions. It is possible I missed them, but I think it is more likely that they came in on the poorly-kept clones (see above). I immediately brought them to the sink, and sprayed the hell out of them with an H202 dilution (3 cups water, 2 Tbsp H202) . I am going to try to acquire a bottle of Lost Coast Plant Therapy. Neem oil seems pretty strong, and I am focusing on clean, organic flower for smoke. UPDATE Went straightaway to my local grow shop to pickup Lost Coast Plant Therapy, and the employee also recommended these little envelopes containing amblyseius cucumeris predator bugs. I also picked up some sticky traps. Before lights out, sprayed plants with recommended dilution of LCPT, and placed the predator bug envelopes in the pot. I also had the intuition to introduce some nematodes and microbes by way of the grow shop's aquaponics system. They keep several large goldfish, and allow you to take water from the system. i grabbed a bit of this water and hit the plants with it. ++++++++DAY #5++++++++ Damn, guess I overwatered... looks like plants are drooping pretty bad. Also saw more thrips, so I doused them again with the Lost Coast Plant Therapy. I am worried about getting it on the soil, as I am afraid it will disrupt the microbiome. The eggs could be there, however, so if it's safe I suppose spraying the soil would kill the eggs. I am not sure, I'll only spray the plant for now. Installing sticky traps. Still worrying about the plant not recovering in time to top... its pushing 9.5 inches, and I want to top/lst before it gets too tall. Started a compost tea; hoping to innoculate some microbial life. I'm also going to pH this up to 7, because i think my medium is acidic (dont have a meter to test it) 1.5 tsp Roots Organics Terp Tea Grow, 0.5 tsp Roots Organics Elemental, 1.0 teaspoon Vital Earth compost, 0.5 tsp molasses, 0.75 gallon RO water. Probably will let this run 48 hrs. ++++++++DAY #6++++++++ Leaves are still drooping/clawing after a day without water, so I think this is a pH issue. They also appear frail and lifeless, and the red stems and petioles are indicating a sudden onset potassium deficiency which could be locked out in a low pH environment. I only have pH strips to test, but a slurry test showed pH under 6. I am going to take that tea and amend it with Mad Farmer Get UP and some baking soda. Shooting for a 7 pH. MFGU says that it will not damage the rhizosphere and microbial life. It contains potassium carbonate, potassium silicate, and potassium hydroxide. I am going to water thoroughly and let sit, and then i will water a bit more and check the runoff. Added a tsp baking soda, and 8ml of MFGU to tea. Initial runoff came out plant #1 around 6.1, and plant #2 around 6.2. Sprinkled a little baking soda on top of the soil, which i guess might also help with the thrips. After letting the soil soak for 30 minutes, I rewatered with tea, and plant #1 was showing about 6.3, and plant #2 around 6.5. I was hoping to get it higher, but this will do for now, i guess. I'm gonna dust the soil with more baking soda. Applied Lost Coast Plant Therapy again to kill thrips. I had also forgotten to apply Mycorhizzae when transplanting, so i top-dressed a little and massaged it into the soil. ++++++++DAY #7++++++++ Plant not looking good.. Leaves looking papery and sickly, and red stems persist. Checked runoff to see what my pH adjustment yesterday yielded, and it was around 8. I flushed with a little RO ( probably 40oz each) and runoff for both came down to 6.5ish. Sprayed plant #2 AGAIN due to visible thrips. ++++++++WEEK ONE SUMMARY+++++++ Hopefully I can save these thrip-infected clones, despite my issues with pH. My issue has been lack of a pH meter, and as well, difficulties finding an organic grow-compatible method of amending RO water. In spite of these issues, they both still added about an inch and a half in height.
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kaneownz
kaneownzcommentedweek 15 years ago
Loving the grow and its inspiring me to set my own up for the first time. Im worried about temperature control in the tent how do you deal with that?. Also, do you mind sharing your tips for ventilation? Specifically where do you run you vent out to. Is it dangerous to vent the air from the tent into an apartment room? Does it need to go outside the apartment the be safe? Hows the heat output coming from that BCBLONDE 340w? Im starting my first grow in a 2x4 GGT as soon as all materials arrive :) Looking for an end game light and saw your set up and im impressed.
wreckbeast
wreckbeastcommented5 years ago
@kaneownz, Once again, I wanna point out that I just started growing, so take my advice with that in mind : ) Don't worry about the model of inkbird... what you gotta do is first determine the conditions of your grow room (get that govee thermoeter/hygromete r with wifi), THEN decide what appliances you need (humidifier/dehumidifier, Air conditioner/heater), and only THEN do you logically determine whether you need an inkbird. Some of the appliances will have controllers built-in. The AC Infinity T6 would be a good choice... This is the model with the controller, which is definitely the one you want. I have the Hyperfan6 MixFlow Fan, with the Hyper Climate Control controller. I purchased the fan used for $90, and the controller new for around $90. The AC infinity is probably plenty of fan for your needs. I will attest that they refunded me in full when i needed to upgrade from the ACInfinity "4, so I can attest to their customer support. 2 carbon filters is only necessary if you are very worried about smell... It's probably a waste of money. The air exhausting out of your tent will be oxygenated by your plants, and also filtered, so if anything it will be very healthy for you! Tap water is alright if its not too hard... Unfortunately for me, my tap has ppm's above 400! I currently purchase RO water from a local water store (city life), but I am honestly struggling to re-add minerals to it properly. Since I am growing organic, I do like that RO contains no chlorine/chloramines. If you let your tap water sit out overnight, the chlorine should off-gas, but the chloramines will remain. Jeff Lowenfels is the godfather of organic cannabis, and he is fine with using tap water that has had time to off gas, provided your ppm's aren't too high like mine. I really like the BCBlonds light, but be very careful of your bank charging you a currency exchange fee... I think Wells Fargo charged me like $30 or something to buy from a Canadian store.
kaneownz
kaneownzcommented5 years ago
@wreckbeast, thanks for all the detail!! Lots of tips and things to take into consideration as I build so thank you very much. Are you able to tell me which model of the InkBird you have and I should get I see a few on amazon. Hmm... I also wanted to buy the AC infinity T6 but now youve got me conflicted on if I should go with the a better one. Which model of the hyperfan do you have? I see its a bit more expensive but noise and power are important to me. I plan on using 2 carbon filters to be extra careful. And specifically with the ventilation I was worried that the carbon filters or something may be putting out bad air I wouldnt want to inhale. Im most likely going to order the same light so Im def following your grow store. I plan on using tap water as I dont know if its possible or wise to use a RO system in my apartment.
wreckbeast
wreckbeastcommented5 years ago
@kaneownz, Hey, thanks! You're my first comment, and I appreciate the interest : ) I am a beginner, but I think the tent environment is something a can speak on a little. Temperature control varies greatly depending on your light, and the ambient temperature of the room you keep your tent in. Sources of heat will be your light, and a heater if you need one. Air conditioners will be used to lower temp. What is really important is tracking the temperature swings with one of these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FBCTQ3L/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 You can't maintain a good environment without having accurate measurements. I can check my tent environment measurements from my phone with this device, its unbelievably great. It also keeps a history that you can look back on. Once you know what the temps are, you can start controlling them with your fan, or with a heater/air conditioner. I recommend an InkBird temperature controller that will turn your heater or AC on/off based on the temperature inside your tent. The ACInfinity fans have a model that will spin the fan up to a higher speed when the temperature hits a setpoint. My hyperfan does the same, but it requires a $90 module to do that. I vent out to my window. I have a 6'inch duct that travels about 10'. The 6 inch fan is definitely overkill, but I wanted to compensate for the back pressure a long exhaust vent introduces, and also am considering upgrading to a 4x4 in the future. A 4" fan should be plenty of exhaust otherwise.Venting to a window keeps the fresh air coming in so that the plant doesn't choke itself by consuming all of the CO2. You can vent to your room, but fresh air(C02) is best, i keep a window cracked for make-up air. Smell can also be an issue unless you have a good carbon filter, but i do both... I have a carbon filter AND I vent outside. One thing to consider is fan noise... they can be louder and more annoying than you'd expect. I spent the extra cash for a hyperfan stealth, its great. I had an ACInfinity 4", but I returned it. I think all of the back pressure was messing with it and it was shutting itself off, but it was very quiet as well. I am not sure what you mean by "dangerous", but i don't think venting inside is ideal for your plants. The BCBlonds light throws very little heat, I have read, but its my first light so I don't truly have any experience to compare it to. Its really nice though, the steel enclosure feels like a nice guitar pedal or something. Everyone is talking about the Mars Hydro TS1000 right now, but I'd guess the BCBlonds stands up to it. The guy that makes them is sooo nice, and you can actually call him anytime with grow questsions, surprisingly. I have heard that Mars Hydro is a Chinese company and offers very little support. He also includes a transferrable warranty too, i forget how long it is. Seems like a very trustworthy business to me. Cheers!