Alien vs. Triangle, Diesel Automatic grow diary (journal) week4 by Jaindoh

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Dries96commentedweek 47 years ago

Hi man, just an information: what kind of manipulation is this? Which is the best way to reach these results with the trunk?

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Rippercommentedweek 77 years ago

Such a great strain. Yours looks great

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Jaindohcommented7 years ago

@Ripper, yeah the smell when i'm pruning is intoxicating. hoping to make the most out of my last auto freebies before perpetual harvest XD

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Tazardcommentedweek 107 years ago

I don’t use coco but I’m thinking that the coco stores some nutrients between watering and the “every other water” feeding is like a mini flush. @biggreens420 has spectacular results in coco I would suggest he can help you.

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Jaindohcommented7 years ago

@Tazard, yeah. I've only done two batches through coco before. Dude I learned from just fed weaker every day using a guide that was basically closer to the lucas formula. We agreed that canna coco was closer to lucas in a bottle, but that canna recommends feeding much stronger bidaily . It definitely builds up in the bottom of the bag such that I don't feed full strength. Conceptually it'd be easier to feed half strength, except they don't seem to like that. Anything much less than the "light" strength from their calculator (feeding daily), and I get at the minimum, iron stuff. With full strength cali magic. That's the confusion. I might try every other day, not sure. It'd save fertilizer.

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Lucky777commentedweek 97 years ago

Really frosty! Those lights look like they are killing it. What’s the core coverage?

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Jaindohcommented7 years ago

@Lucky777, yeah the pvc i got i only needed for scrogs and had intended to repurpose for this but i think i can make a better solution and yea each one does about half of the 2x4 tent, at least at this close of a distance. hard to tell my footprint really. it's a lot more light than the 317w mars hydro reflector 144-diode blurple fixtures i have (was blooming with) its still pretty even lighting/canopy so i would say each of the eight plants gets about 50w worth of light

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Lucky777commented7 years ago

@Jaindoh, ahhhh ok, so they really only light up about a 2x2? Give Or take a little.PVC is pretty tough, especially if you get the industrial grade for underground pipes.

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Jaindohcommented7 years ago

@Lucky777, 2x Roleadro 400 (200W from wall each), which are two-diode fixtures. My filter has to be strapped to the top of the tent on the inside atm for space reasons so one of the lights is hanging crooked. I plan on making a PVC frame and hanging that from the roof, and then the lights from that. It would fix my coverage/heat map but I havent yet. All I have atm is a bunch of 1/2" slip sched 40 PVC and no glue, i'm afraid it won't hold. e: i think i have a better solution with just a piece of wire or two securely mounted to the outer ceiling bars instead of the center one.

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Dries96commentedweek 47 years ago

Hi man, just an information: what kind of manipulation is this? Which is the best way to reach these results with the trunk?

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Jaindohcommented7 years ago

@Dries96, These are 90-degree trained with LST tiedowns on the main and all the branches. Planted them off-center for this. I have done HST on almost every branch in this grow in order to try to grow short yielding plants. That is what forms the knot. I feed a lot of potassium silicate which helps a lot with LST, and also helps the plant develop larger trunk/branches. Shorter plants with large-diameter trunks and branches, less distance to pump... very vigorous. Particularly with the root supplements to have a lot of feeder roots on the other end.

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JUNGLE_B4RNScommentedweek 147 years ago

From the pictures, those plants have used a lot of energy in building knots and trunks, they have responded very well to HST and it would have been the success you were looking for with regular or fem strains. Feed ... water ... or not ? It’s the f*ck*ng question 😅 I struggle with the same question and each times I get the answer by looking my plants and lifting the pots 😉 You just pointed the thing when you said that plants were looking better after being aerated... To make it easy for the new growers, Cannabis don’t like to be watered chronically, they love big amounts of water only once . As you’re not a beginner I must tell you it’s all about aerobic and anaerobic bacterials in the media , it’s the primary factor . After being watered the roots hairs dies and needs 3 days to grow back , during these 3 days anaerobic bacterials have the time to do their job , it’s the time the soil needs to dry out a bit and anaerobic bacterials start to dies leaving the place for aerobic bacterials when the roots hairs start to grow back and start the feeding exchange again .... So technically if you follow me and haven’t been lost 😄 you Water or Feed every 6 days maximum approximately, it makes once a week . The Canna Boost I suppose it’s the Rhizotonic, it is efficient at the beginning from seedlings to the 3rd week of flowering, using it after the 3rd week of flowering is wasting money and as you said bro it’s really expensive.

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Jaindohcommented7 years ago

@JUNGLE_B4RNS, very interesting about the bacteria, i will have to keep that in mind; makes me wonder why youre supposed to water to runoff every other day. Obviously salts, and I do water them instead of feeding, but 20% runoff is a LOT of water. How would they stay happy? The boost I had intended is their bloom booster which I havent tried yet; the rhizotonic I am a big fan of and it only costs about the same as GH rapidstart. I will probably discontinue it after third week of flower in photos but autos are weird and keep growing past the stretch so i had been continuing to give it to them out of "better safe than sorry"

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JUNGLE_B4RNScommentedweek 147 years ago

For the feeding question, as I said you must look your plants and check your garden tracker to know if you’re over feeding or under feeding, as some deficiency can looks similar to excess amounts sometimes. I’ve never grown in coco and never used LED’s and this is why it would be like gambling if I give you accurate feeding chart . Feeding is based on plants health and the amounts of Watts with HID’s but for LED’s idk if goes the same.

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Jaindohcommented7 years ago

@JUNGLE_B4RNS, yeah I haven't been burning so it's mostly a min/max issue of expensive nutes and "maybe itll grow a bit better if im not giving them slightly too much nutes"; I had been adjusting feed to my plants with fox farm... it's a bit more weird to me with canna since it's an A+B all-in-one. I don't think I've been doing too poorly, just trying to dial it in to 'perfect'. My veg food's PPM for light schedule, 8.7 A+B, 4ml calmag (have dropped to 2), all the stuff I put in it, 626. The big flowering batches I had been giving at 13ml A+B were like 1050. Should be golden afaik, I really should at least do one round where I pull each plant out and test its drainage it's just the biggest drag with my setup lol. I am going to adjust my setup to where runoff testing should be easier.

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OGBOBBYBUSHcommentedweek 127 years ago

Looking frosty

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Zannabis7commentedweek 77 years ago

She's putting weight on nicely. Thanks for the update to your diary. Best wishes on the rest of the grow.

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bobo420commentedweek 137 years ago

How is the trichome situation?

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bobo420commented7 years ago

@Jaindoh, yeah, she looks close... I'd say too that she still has enough nutes in her to finish the job, it's normal for her to draw nutrients and energy from the leaves so it's normal for them to go yellow at some point. I'd give them just water till the end, they seem healthy enough to not need any extra boosts for now

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Jaindohcommented7 years ago

@bobo420, i need a new scope i think, the lens is clouded -- the furthest alien in the front left seems within a few days, has a lot of cloudies lower down as well as the tops. There's a diesel that should go soon as well. its close enough that instead of feeding all 8, due to the overfeeding and them being autos i skipped a feed to flush 3 more that are closer as well. been giving molasses. if they start to look deficient i'll give them a feed but have been paranoid i have been overfeeding and stunting my autos so i'm betting there's enough still left in the bottom of the bag and their leaves to last them at least until the next feed day.

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PigBearMancommentedweek 77 years ago

That will be a bit... Keep it up dude. 😁

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Jaindohcommented7 years ago

@PigBearMan,oh yeah loving the roleadro 400 (200w) from jump street, these are so vigorous. thanks a ton man!

DaGrowQueencommentedweek 167 years ago

Excellent work on the alien.The buds are so frosty & dense and also looks as though u are gonna get a very descent yield out of em,bravo👏

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bobo420commentedweek 167 years ago

Love the coloring, some nice buds ;)

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bobo420commentedweek 147 years ago

Congratulations on the harvest! Those are some nice frosty looking buds, sure it will make for great medicine ;) Interesting diary, good job ;)

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bobo420commentedweek 147 years ago

They've put some weight this week, nice ;) As for the run off and feeding I agree with @@Athos. I don't grow in coco but have seen these bugger drink as much as a regular plant, some even more, they can be thirsty ones

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Zannabis7commentedweek 107 years ago

What a sea! Very nice looking canopy! Nice grow! Continued best wishes!

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Zannabis7commentedweek 97 years ago

Lovin that canopy. Looking great!

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Zantocommentedweek 97 years ago

Nice progress. I think you should take a look to the yellow dots on the leaves for any lack. I wish you the best!! Happy growing

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sebadegreefcommentedweek 77 years ago

Looks awesome bro! Happy growing!

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Cannabisqueencommentedweek 67 years ago

Wow! I love that training!!!

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DougFreshcommentedweek 57 years ago

Awful rough with those poor girls! They aren’t looking bad tho

Jaindohcommented7 years ago

@DougFresh, Yeah I have been recovering from multiple surgeries and have not been on my best game. Rushing while training, bending over and stretching to train / HST instead of moving plants, all type of other rookie mistakes. Three tents is whooping my ass so far. I am, however, generally in the "anti-fragile" camp of growing, stressing them on purpose; I'd rather make mistakes toward this direction than to be too gentle? IDK, it's a matter of perspective, clearly -- either way the Aliens were gonna be a bit too big for the tent so I've been trying to create and maintain an *ultra* low and wide canopy.

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