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Jgood Side by side nutrient run. Clone run of BubblegumOG using foop on the right or frt of the 2x4 and House and Garden (all but the algae side)on the left or back of tent. In 3 gallon fabric PruneX pots from trimbuddies, happy frog soil with added perlite, harbour freight. Light at around 75% of the 330watt total. 4 inch exhaust/intake.
They got their first feed yesterday.
Lollipopped some. They took off fast. Light went to all 330 watts. May strip them hard and flower sooner. First time in a tent.
Exhaust is 4 inch , which I'm using as intake to battle the heat , not the light heat, I need another air conditioner 😜🤣 I want and like 🔥 but not around me , just in my grow results.
These clones were older. Had to move and reset and battle mites. I won. 🎉
Tent was 35$ from a friend ,he got it from eBay. No name. Seems no leaks, three bottom screened vents with roll up Velcro covers. Electric holes, one 8 inch , or ten, on both sides and top. Zips all around to the back corner. Metal frame. Wish me luck. I need this to do well, 🌱🌱
PS. These were under an hlg 65 watt quantum board for weeks, trained for spreading out and having lots of tops. The size of the tent has me switching it up because I have no room to spread them. Going to be rough retraining basically. Lot of cutting on..... C ya next week🌱👊
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2
Week 2. Vegetation
5y ago
1/9
63.5 cm
Height
17 hrs
Light Schedule
30 °C
Day Air Temp
6.5
pH
700 PPM
TDS
55 %
Air Humidity
24 °C
Solution Temp
24 °C
Substrate Temp
22 °C
Night Air Temp
11.36 L
Pot Size
63.5 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 8
Foop
14.265 mll
Soil A
2.378 mll
Soil B
2.378 mll
Jgood Both nutrients doing a great job. Tent got awful small quick. Watered with silica between the first and second feed.
Been bending the tops over and also light defoliation and lollipopping.
Thinking of transitioning to flower next week. Due mostly to space.
Mantis ec sprayed once last week for bugs, IPM.
Temps been kinda hot at 84-86 but ok. Have a Four inch exhaust fan blowing fresh air in the tent.
These were vegged out to spread the limbs but they have blown up and I may have to cut more off and go with the tops that's up highest. Hate to have to cut so much off. These are more suited for a 4x4 which space doesn't allow.... Better alot than wanting more.
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Week 3. Flowering
5y ago
1/11
63.5 cm
Height
14 hrs
Light Schedule
30 °C
Day Air Temp
6.5
pH
900 PPM
TDS
55 %
Air Humidity
24 °C
Solution Temp
24 °C
Substrate Temp
22 °C
Night Air Temp
11.36 L
Pot Size
63.5 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 7
Foop
12.68 mll
Soil A
3.038 mll
Soil B
3.038 mll
Jgood First bloom feed for Foop and H&G,
Heat been high, up to 94. Cooled down some. Fans.
Changed light to 14 on , space running out I'm getting them close to 12-12 untill I get some more cleaned off the bottoms.
Scrog net will go up today. Watering every two days , feeding , watering with silica between, back to feed. Unless things change. Almost a preflowers phase this week.
Got them cleaned up underneath aka lollipopped them. Added scrog net at 24 inches below the 18 inch manufacturer distance.
Watering every other day 4 gallons rain water at pH 6.2- 6.8
Defoliation of fan leafs at top to help open them up a bit.
Also took alot off the bottoms again. And continued to defoliate the tops some.
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4
Week 4. Flowering
5y ago
1/6
71.12 cm
Height
12 hrs
Light Schedule
31 °C
Day Air Temp
6.5
pH
900 PPM
TDS
24 °C
Solution Temp
24 °C
Substrate Temp
22 °C
Night Air Temp
11.36 L
Pot Size
15.14 L
Watering Volume
Nutrients 8
Foop
15.85 mll
Soil A
3.566 mll
Soil B
3.566 mll
Jgood Day 1, second week flower gave them full feed three days ago , four with FOOP, and four on back wall fed with House and Garden.
Temps been 92@ times 😲 but usually around 88 degrees. Night usually 72-75.
Have defoliated as much as I'm comfortable with. I'll let them regroup and heal up and see how things look in a few more weeks, usually weeks 1-3 or 2-4 , for heavy defoliation. Day by day a handful usually gets pulled in veg.
Got an AC👏so hopefully no more high🌡️it's a stand alone type, hope it works well🌡️
Drying out every two days, so I feed, water only, then feed again. I make them wait till the third day and sometimes I'll top off with a big 32 ounce of water if it seems too dry but know there is dampness left towards the bottoms.
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Week 5. Flowering
5y ago
1/12
76.2 cm
Height
12 hrs
Light Schedule
31 °C
Day Air Temp
6.5
pH
1300 PPM
TDS
60 %
Air Humidity
24 °C
Solution Temp
24 °C
Substrate Temp
22 °C
Night Air Temp
11.36 L
Pot Size
15.14 L
Watering Volume
40.64 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 8
Foop
19.02 mll
Soil A
3.698 mll
Soil B
3.698 mll
Jgood Day 1, fed 1/2 strength of both FOOP on the frt four and House and Gardens on back four. No big difference yet.
Temps been ok at 88. Not the best.
Been defoliating and will need to lollipop and defoliate but waiting for mid week.
Day 5 added urb and recycleSil, silica at half dosage.
Half fed day 3, foop on right, house and gardens on left. No big difference yet in nutes. Flowers will tell the tale.
Been feeding twice with a watering between. Feed, feed, water. Every 2-3 days. pH 6.3-6.8, creek and rain water.
New AC has helped the temps down to 86-88
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Week 6. Flowering
5y ago
1/5
76.2 cm
Height
12 hrs
Light Schedule
28 °C
Day Air Temp
6.5
pH
1300 PPM
TDS
60 %
Air Humidity
24 °C
Solution Temp
24 °C
Substrate Temp
22 °C
Night Air Temp
11.36 L
Pot Size
15.14 L
Watering Volume
30.48 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 5
Foop
19.02 mll
Soil A
4.755 mll
Soil B
4.755 mll
Jgood I have pulled and cut off twice last week. I'll leave them be for now on.
Temps down since new AC.
Tad more than half fed, frt or right is Foop fed. Back or left is House n Gardens.
Looks like a hurricane came through but hopefully they b ok.
pH 6.5, rain and condensation water between every two feeds.
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Week 7. Flowering
5y ago
1/4
76.2 cm
Height
12 hrs
Light Schedule
28 °C
Day Air Temp
6.5
pH
Normal
Smell
1300 PPM
TDS
60 %
Air Humidity
24 °C
Solution Temp
24 °C
Substrate Temp
22 °C
Night Air Temp
11.36 L
Pot Size
15.14 L
Watering Volume
30.48 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 6
Foop
19.02 mll
Soil A
8.982 mll
Soil B
8.982 mll
Jgood Fed a half dose of week 4, then full dosed week 5, everything going smooth so far.
Been moving the light, from straight down the 2x4 tent, next day I'll caddy corner it , next I'll caddy corner the other way, may help with shady spots due to overcrowding.
Fed on Sat, day 2 of week. Ran straight water through a few days later with a half dose feed a few days after that. Usually two feeds and a watering a week.
🤪🤬😡 End of week found some mite bites🤦♂️. Not many but they found the 🍬BG. I mowed and probably brought them in, or it's the vent pics and some may have gotten in during those.🤷♂️
Will spray as bad as I don't want with some mantis and Sierra natural science (rosemary peppermint and soy oils)
Defoliated the worse of the eaten leafs.
I will wash these so if any oils are left over I'll get it off during their bath. 🤞
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Week 8. Flowering
5y ago
1/4
76.2 cm
Height
12 hrs
Light Schedule
28 °C
Day Air Temp
6.5
pH
Normal
Smell
1300 PPM
TDS
60 %
Air Humidity
24 °C
Solution Temp
24 °C
Substrate Temp
22 °C
Night Air Temp
11.36 L
Pot Size
15.14 L
Watering Volume
30.48 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 5
Foop
19.02 mll
Soil A
8.982 mll
Soil B
8.982 mll
Jgood 1 Burnt them up with mantis mixed too strong. Seen a few mite bites.🤬😭
2 pH pen quit. Had to use drops I borrowed.
3 fed full strength, then watered only
4 can't get a pH pen delivered here🤷♂️
5 Gonna try to let them maybe know they are dieing and at least ripen up.
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Week 9. Flowering
5y ago
1/5
76.2 cm
Height
12 hrs
Light Schedule
28 °C
Day Air Temp
6.5
pH
Normal
Smell
60 %
Air Humidity
24 °C
Solution Temp
24 °C
Substrate Temp
22 °C
Night Air Temp
11.36 L
Pot Size
15.14 L
Watering Volume
30.48 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 1
Rainwater
4 mll
Jgood Been giving only rainwater and foliar sprayed water to try to get some of it off, After burning these up with mantis, after seeing only a few mite bite marks. White specks where they been sucking the leafs.
Some of the flowers are trying to grow. So may as well see how they look at end of week.
Flowers were doing good, I'll never eyeball anything again.
Trichromes look OK. More of a sativa leaning so most are inside the flower unlike others more indica that gets frosty everywhere.
Smells on point , just like juicy fruit.
Lost alot of weight but some smoke will be better than none.
Had two box's of Foop. That would be 200$. Both sweetner bottles EXPLODED. for only 4 plants in 3 gallon containers , this would become very expensive to use. The house and gardens may be more to begin bit will last ALOT longer.
Foop never sent the sweetner or clone gel so technically I didn't even get to finish the foop run.
Get yourself a fishtank and mollassas water. Save yourself some cash. Little too much nitrogen in the bloom also , which the new recipe was NOT sent either. So FOOP I'd have to pass on if buying. If I can't get the right stuff promoting for them then buying prob same difficulties.
It worked fine if I had enough and it didn't blow up......
H&G wins this one just on customer service. "I keep forgetting" isn't a good model for business to customers of Foop.
Burning them up I'd not had a good representation of either one though. Really appreciate both companies and surely is embarrassing to make such a rookie mistake trying to do a side by side nutrient run. 🤦♂️☹️ If I hear back or things change with the foop people I'll be sure to let you know.
Jgood This was a clone grow. Organic Foop vs House &Gardens. The clones had been in solo cups for awhile. Never thought they would outgrow the tent with only two weeks veg. They had been trained a tad to be bent under the scrog net. With the boost in veg I had to totally rethink how to fit them in. Had to cut alot off, they were all doing great. Then after a hot organic MantisEC mix , I had burned them up. So close to being on the bulk up, finish stage. Embarrassed by my mistake. Tried to show the results of both but really can't say what those last 3 weeks would have done. Hung whole plants, after washing them good (water with drop peroxide and really good water 💦 shower) I can look and see that the House and Gardens has alot more flower while hanging.
🛑Main thing with the FOOP nutrients, I had two box's. 200$. It wasn't enough for just these 4 in three gallon containers. Their sweetner EXPLODED, they also never sent me any more to use. Never got the clone gel. Just a banner to represent without replacement. It is a new company and already changing the flower parts so can't gripe too much. But want to tell truthfully what I think.
🛑 House & Garden, lots of bottles at first, alot still left. Never had any problems so as far as customer service. They helped me out and I'm sure feeling bad to let both these companies down. I'll still use this again and I'm an organic lover. So that should tell y'all I didn't mind to use it and will untill it's gone.
Taste, etc, I can't really say because of the early, messed up end. I'll see if there is much difference after dried and tried. I'll be back in about a week with harvest pics. Trying for 60 degrees and 60humidity and in the dark.
🤙I've been an outdoor grower for 25+ years, inside most is on here or during the last year, So learning to combat the environment still.
🛑🕷️🕷️🕷️Worked landscaping, mowing, etc one day and went down and checked them without a shower first. Big mistake. Only other reason they just love the BGog, but I took a few vent pics that they may have been one on me then also. Did use Sierra natural science 209&217, MantisEC, for ipm. 🤷♂️. They are relentless and little devil's that almost impossible to get rid of. PREVENTION , try not to bring any in. Predator mites, lady bugs, next time. Hopefully won't need them. Shipping r more than the mites🤦♂️🏼 maybe even pyrethrin also. But don't plan to get them again. ( Please send good vibes for that)
Got double from the H&G side vs FOOP side.
Tastes good actually. Friends love it. So they got to where it works, just lost the last few "bulk up" weeks.
Foop sweetners blew up. If fed full strength, both box's wouldn't been enough for flower. (Veg was only two weeks so got some veg left)
Hassle mixing alot of bottles from House and Garden but the bottles ramped down in flower. Still have plenty left for another grow. Or more.
Week or so more , more taste will come out, what we tried, couldn't really tell the difference between the two nite flowers.
So . Learn something from every grow. Keep at it if you like growing. Only hands on will teach you. Take the good with the bad.
Never got the sweetners sent back to finish the grow if I'd had to take them to week 8, or the clone gel from FOOP. Just so you know how customer service is. Forgetful. New company also so things will change for them . Hopefully.
Happy Grows everyone👍🌱🌱
Tomorrow (Friday) will be the first full week under 12-12.
Hoping to find more fans for heat and more airflow. Going to let them ride for a few weeks and see how things are or not going. Probably defoliation week 3-4ish again.
Watered only at 6.5 Fri night. Thinking with a foot to go to light height , two weeks is all they will veg. Tomorrow I'll switch to 12-12 and hope this heat let's up.
Watered with silica from recycle Sil, silica made from rice hulls. Tsp per gallon.
These were vegged to spread the branches but since space is maxed out I'll have to chop some more off from the bottom and go with the tops that I have up at the top. A 4x4 space would have these at where I want them, spread out to get light to the under side I'll have to now cut off.
So far so good. Used mantis and sns 209 for IPM.
Temps been 90 last few days. They seem to be ok.
FLOWER TIME SOON. Just don't have the room to grow them like they should be at this size. Going to have to start them in veg n flower alot smaller..... Maybe😂
Burnt but still trying. Last week so may as well let them do what they can. Watering only to flush the H&G, few white hairs are showing up so the flowers are coming out of it. Keeps up they may do good but figure I'll cut them end of week. The flowers will be the only ones to let me know.
All been half feeds untill week 4 flower. Upped to 3/4 feed on both FOOP and H&G week 4. May go full strength last few weeks. Been going by the feed charts, just in two gallons. Feed, feed, water. Feed , feed, water.
Trying to get rid of all the Xtra plant material, been defoliating the top and smaller bottoms. And in between.
I've done one night and saving the rest for tonight. Trying to not stress them too much at once. But this will be the last times I defoliate. All in Week 3. Then they will do what they do.
Have a few taller tops. Bent a few but left most, if I bend them they just gonna cover up others.
May the ganja gods watch over this jungle.🙏🤣