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Fission 300W Light Emitting Diodes/250W
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Fission 300W Light Emitting Diodes/250W
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19 liters
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Start at 8 Week
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Week 1. Vegetation
8y ago
2.54 cm
Height
21 hrs
Light Schedule
18 °C
Day Air Temp
6.5
pH
No Smell
Smell
38 %
Air Humidity
18 °C
Solution Temp
18 °C
Substrate Temp
16 °C
Night Air Temp
18.93 liters
Pot Size
66.04 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 3
TriPart Grow - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Grow
1.321 mll
TriPart Bloom - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Bloom
1.321 mll
TriPart Micro - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Micro
1.321 mll
BucketBrigade Exactly 1 week from initially seeding in rockwool. Bubbling strongand seems to be healthy. I've already added some water to keep the level steady until roots grow past the rockwool cube. Not sure how accurate the temps are as I have yet to purchase anything to take temps nor anything to measure PPM. Also, PPH is based on chemical test kit. Noticed the newest leaves seem to have yellowish veins. Assuming a lack of nitrogen. I leveled up the nutes to 5ml / gallon as I still had them at 1/4 from just getting started. I'll re-evaluate in a few days.
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Grow Questions
BucketBrigade
BucketBrigadestarted grow question 8y ago
The GH label states that the nutrient solition should be changed weekly. That seems excessive. How can one tell that it's time to change the solution or just add to it?
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Techniques. Defoliation
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FlavoursUkanswered grow question 8y ago
Hi mate, If you want to do things right and achieve the best results, you should change out your nute mixture every week. Wait a couple weeks after you introduce the plants into the system before you change it out the first time. You should check the pH level every day, that is the most important factor in hydro. It needs to be between 5.2 and 6.3, and shouldn't vary more than 0.5 in 12 hours- you don't want to shock your plants with a quick change. Also, if you don't have a ppm meter your pH can help you determine how much nutes to use (your babies are ready for a low concentration nute mixture when the second node appears). If the pH is rising, your plants are using up nutes and you should add a higher concentration. If the pH is dropping, your plant is using more water than nutes and you should add a lower concentration or just water. So all in all, it’s the plants that will tell you what you need. Although being in hydro,when things go wrong it’s already too late. So take your time and regular checks on your girls. Slow and steady wins the cultivation process. All just advice at the end of the day, free to do as you wish. Just giving you some knowledge from my past experiences. Hope this helps. FlavoursUk 👌
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Week 2. Vegetation
8y ago
7.62 cm
Height
21 hrs
Light Schedule
22 °C
Day Air Temp
6.5
pH
No Smell
Smell
38 %
Air Humidity
18 °C
Solution Temp
18 °C
Substrate Temp
21 °C
Night Air Temp
18.93 liters
Pot Size
66.04 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 4
TriPart Grow - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Grow
3.963 mll
TriPart Bloom - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Bloom
2.642 mll
TriPart Micro - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Micro
1.321 mll
BucketBrigade Day 14: I added Armor Si to the solution thinking that it can help her grow fast and strong. A few leaves seem to be slightly curled. Wondering if I need to worry... Day 13: Even though I thought I destroyed her 2 roots in raising her higher, somehow 4 are in it's place. One day later! Seems to have added an inch in height as well. Day 12: I realized yesterday that I set the growcube at the bottom of the basket and it was way too low. In another day, the plant will be touching the walls of the planter. So I raised it. I pulled the grow cube up, added clay pebbles and water to the nutes. The problem is that I broke some roots that were attached to the basket. I hope she survives... Day 8: The third pair of leaves are growing and the second pair continue to grow in size. I just bumped the nutes ratio to agressive growth quantities. The veins seem a little yellow. Not sure if that's normal for this strain. I hope the added nutes help get the plant green. If anyone has some input, I'd be thrilled to hear back.
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Week 3. Vegetation
7y ago
29.21 cm
Height
20 hrs
Light Schedule
23 °C
Day Air Temp
6.5
pH
Weak
Smell
40 %
Air Humidity
21 °C
Solution Temp
21 °C
Substrate Temp
21 °C
Night Air Temp
18.93 liters
Pot Size
68.58 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 4
TriPart Grow - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Grow
3.963 mll
TriPart Bloom - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Bloom
2.642 mll
TriPart Micro - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Micro
1.321 mll
BucketBrigade May 5: 2 days have passed and she grew 3 inches. She seems to be speeding up. I added a little acid to lower the ph for the 1st time in a long time. I think it may have gotten hot in the basement yesterday since a few of the leaves curled up. I added a fan to cool things down. I also added about 3 cups of water. In addition, a few leaves have a blade or 2 that look droopy. Wondering if it's time to add some nutrients. Have a look at the photo above and let me know what you think. May 3: Another inch another day. She's my 1st, Do I top her? Do I FIM her? Shall I let her be? She has 4 nodes and growing the 5th. I should just let her grow normally, right? BTW, I'm loving the her scent! May 2: She's growing like a weed! 2 days in a row and an inch each day! I just raised my LED about a foot higher. I'm worried it's getting too close and limiting her height. If tomorrow she grows less than an inch, I'll lower it back to the previous level. April 30: Today I've done nothing but test the PH and leave her alone. grew half an inch since yesterday and the leaves are significantly larger. Yesterday I could smell her for the 1st time. Today it was noticably stronger. Not sure what that means, hopefully a good sign. Week 3. I think she's happy after breaking a few roots while I tried to fix a planting mistake where she was sitting way too low in the basket. I added more expanded clay beneath her as well. I also added Armor Si for strength. It caused a big increase in the PH which require some adjusting to get back right. I also brought the nutes up to aggressive vegitation levels. I had hydroponic Kale growing next to her that got to be very large and started creating a shadow. Solved that by making a good batch of delicious kale chips which means I chopped most of the kale plant and so Mary now has her space. I'm a little worried she is a little too close the the LED light. Her growth segments are starting to look a little crowded. Also, I've decided to not train her at all. It's my 1st attempt and I think it may be worthwhile to just let her grow naturally and learn about Tangerine Dream auto flowers. Finally, I noticed that she has a huge growth spurt early in the day after her time in total darkness that slows a lot as the day wears on. So I've added another hour of darkness to let her sleep. 4 hours of sleep and after only one day, she seems happier and I believe has actually grown even more than usual. 😊
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BucketBrigade
BucketBrigadestarted grow question 7y ago
I'm in week 3 and she's starting to smell. Today I walked in and the smell was unmistakable and ramping up from just a few days ago. What does this mean? Does it indicate some kind of change in the plant I need to be aware of? Do I need to take care of anything differently?
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FlavoursUkanswered grow question 7y ago
Hi, As its an auto they flip to flower by themselves, so in the very early stages depending on the strain you can sometimes get a mild cannabis smell, but you know its the plants getting ready to produce some pre flowers then to be nice big buds. Looking at your stats everything looks healthy and on the right track so it couldn't be anything else. If you're worried about the smell have a look into getting a carbon filter. There are also odour gels you can get to control the smell from your local hydroponics shop, or online. Hope this helps
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Week 4. Vegetation
7y ago
33.02 cm
Height
20 hrs
Light Schedule
24 °C
Day Air Temp
6.0
pH
Weak
Smell
40 %
Air Humidity
21 °C
Solution Temp
21 °C
Substrate Temp
21 °C
Night Air Temp
18.93 liters
Pot Size
63.5 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 4
TriPart Grow - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Grow
3.963 mll
TriPart Bloom - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Bloom
2.642 mll
TriPart Micro - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Micro
1.321 mll
BucketBrigade 1st day of week 4. I won't be able to post again for most likely the next 10 days or so. But I'll be back. Any lighting tips with strong LED lighting? How hight should it really be?
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Week 5. Vegetation
7y ago
91.44 cm
Height
20 hrs
Light Schedule
24 °C
Day Air Temp
6.0
pH
Normal
Smell
40 %
Air Humidity
21 °C
Solution Temp
21 °C
Substrate Temp
21 °C
Night Air Temp
18.93 liters
Pot Size
63.5 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 4
TriPart Grow - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Grow
3.963 mll
TriPart Bloom - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Bloom
2.642 mll
TriPart Micro - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Micro
1.321 mll
BucketBrigade It's been 10 days since I last posted due to travel. I was stunned to see how much she grew! Just slightly under 3 feet tall! She was 13" just before I left! Her trunk is 1/2 inch thich for at least 2 of those feet! I think she has a little bit of light burn as she grew within 6 inches of the LED. So I just raised the COB LED. SInce this was my 1st grow, I decided to let her grow natural as she pleases. I now wish I would have FIM's her at 4 or 5 nodes. I certainly will next time. She is starting to flower as the white threads appear all over the plant. Some discussion points: 1. I was thinking some minor defoilation are in order, but I'm not sure it's safe at this stage with her starting flowering...news flash, I took 4 fan leaves pictured above and it let alot of light back into the plant. So I'm taking it slowly to see the impact.😃 2. Is this height and size normal for tangerine dream auto? Most others I find onlline seem very small. 3. Should I wait a little longer with the change to flowering nutes? Any thoughts and recommendations greatly apprecaited.
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Week 6. Flowering
7y ago
111.76 cm
Height
20 hrs
Light Schedule
24 °C
Day Air Temp
6.0
pH
Weak
Smell
40 %
Air Humidity
21 °C
Solution Temp
21 °C
Substrate Temp
21 °C
Night Air Temp
18.93 liters
Pot Size
30.48 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 4
TriPart Grow - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Grow
0.66 mll
TriPart Bloom - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Bloom
1.981 mll
TriPart Micro - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Micro
1.321 mll
BucketBrigade So today starts 6 weeks and the appearance of fine white hairs I believve signifies we have started flowering. I have changed the nutes and I'm using them in the GH recommended flowering ratio. I'm a little worried that I might have been sent the wrong seeds and this might not be Tangerine Dream since this plant has grown so large. But hopefully she is just a very healthy plant. I'm also wondering if it's too late to trim the top most main trunk to eliminate what would become the highest cola. I've also decided to try and not raise the LED lighting for a while and see if the topmost stops growing and the rest of the plant will catch up and the rest of the plant seems to be adjusting itself to gain access to light and catch up overall. Please comment with any thoughts and suggestions. I'm not too early with the flowering nutes, correct?
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Week 7. Flowering
7y ago
127 cm
Height
20 hrs
Light Schedule
22 °C
Day Air Temp
6.0
pH
Weak
Smell
40 %
Air Humidity
21 °C
Solution Temp
21 °C
Substrate Temp
21 °C
Night Air Temp
18.93 liters
Pot Size
1.89 liters
Watering Volume
30.48 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 4
TriPart Grow - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Grow
0.66 mll
TriPart Bloom - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Bloom
1.981 mll
TriPart Micro - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Micro
1.321 mll
BucketBrigade Start of Week 7 status update (May 27): She seems to really like 1/2 strength nutes. She keeps growing and I won't be able to raise the lighting much higher. I may be forced to train her while flowering soon if she doesn't stop. I keep kicking myself for cutting those 4 fan leaves as she seems to really take care of herself. If I end up with a smaller strain next time, I like the no-training method as I believe she is pretty prolific on her own. Size: I had concerns that I might have gotten the wrong seeds as I see no one with Tangerine Dream this tall and large (50" tall and 40" wide and still growing). The vendor assures me this is normal for a thriving plant. I hope so. May 28, she seems to have stopped growing today! Scent: The scent intensity has dropped and changed. It's no longer as pungent as it once was. Cigar but nicer is the best way to describe it. Is that ok? Clones: I know it's crazy to clone at this stage, but I trimmed a few branches that were not getting any light or growing so I figured I might as well. This is my 1st plant and a major learning experience, right? Curing: I know I have quite some time to harvest, but I have been researching drying and curing. I'm considering attempting 3 methods. Traditional slow and dehydration and then into the mason jar and finally water curing. I want to try all three and compare the differences. If I do, I plan on reporting back to the community. Advice: If you have any, please comment. I'm looking for all the help I can get! 😊
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Week 8. Flowering
7y ago
147.32 cm
Height
20 hrs
Light Schedule
22 °C
Day Air Temp
6.0
pH
Weak
Smell
40 %
Air Humidity
21 °C
Solution Temp
21 °C
Substrate Temp
21 °C
Night Air Temp
18.93 liters
Pot Size
1.89 liters
Watering Volume
30.48 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 4
TriPart Grow - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Grow
0.66 mll
TriPart Bloom - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Bloom
1.981 mll
TriPart Micro - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Micro
1.321 mll
BucketBrigade Started the third week of flowering. Somehow, she is still growing. About to hit 60"...5 feet tall! I have not added or changed the nutes since siphoning off half the liquid and adding water. And I've been adding water ever since. I am refusing to raise the light, and she keeps getting closer. Somehow, she seems to be able to absorb much more light than ever before. Her scent is also still cigar like but pleasant. Nothing pungent. I hope that's ok. I only worries are if those colas will fill in and if I need to add any nutes. Based on the previous over feeding, I am fearful of adding any. Finally, should I prune those very low but flowering branches? Will eliminating those encourage more flowing above?
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iDontEvenGrow
iDontEvenGrow commented7y ago
in comparison, when mine went into flower it went from having a 262 watt light over it in veg to a little over 1100 actual watts.
BucketBrigade
BucketBrigade commented7y ago
@iDontEvenGrow, So you switched from one bulb type to another?
BucketBrigade
BucketBrigade commented7y ago
@iDontEvenGrow, I just posted a photo that shows the LED lights up above. Half the COB LEDs are visible from this view.
Coopman
Coopman commented7y ago
Looks like yours has a bit more growth than what mine did around this time. Keep it up!
BucketBrigade
BucketBrigade commented7y ago
@Coopman, I'm looking at your colas and wondering. Do they start at the end of the branch and grow upward (flower on top of flower), or do the flowers fill in all the empty space on the branch between nodes? I'm a little concerned about the height and growth of the plant and how those colas will fully form.
iDontEvenGrow
iDontEvenGrow commented7y ago
how ever many watts it is using at the wall is whats most important, rather than whether it has 240 5 watt LEDs, to make it "1200 watts". if it is 280 watts that will be a good amount. these DWC autos from what i can tell have no limit....i pulled about 850 dry off of mine, in case you were wondering.
iDontEvenGrow
iDontEvenGrow commented7y ago
what is the actual wattage rating on your LED?
BucketBrigade
BucketBrigade commented7y ago
@iDontEvenGrow,the light is supposedly 1200 watts. I don't believe it. It supposedly draws 280w. It is one of the newer COB LEDs. I'm considering some type of low cost light meter to help me figure out how much distance should exist above the plant. I'm guessing it's more like a 600w light.
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