DB_Cooper

@Sour_D, well, after I lost all that money, and then failed to save Laura Palmer, all I had left was the medicine. :D

@Cyrusdavirus, not sure this medicine is for you. Paranoia is setting in mate. Probably time for a breather. In the world I live in people share alternate viewpoints. It's called discussion. Only for adults though sadly. If you can find insult in what I said like I say probably take a breather. I even went as far as to say I'm using the same lights so not sure where you get off speaking to me like that. You stated that the lights are fantastic, I gave an alternate experience. People other than yourself come here to see exchanges of views like that so they can make informed decisions, but I wouldn't expect you to be able to see past the end of your own dick. Interesting that you went to make an argument and that's the first thing you thought of, no surprises there. I won't comment on your grows and don't expect to hear from you. Good life sir

@Cyrusdavirus, my first grow was this exactly, Green Crack under 2x Mars TSL2000's. Okay results, but way better lights out there. Mine went one month before both started having driver issues. I'm using them to finish a flower on a grow but they'll be gone after that. As it is I have to go in every day after timer comes on, and turn them off and on again to get the drivers to kick in, otherwise only one of the four quantum boards will actually be on. Yep they deliver an ok result, but nowhere near as good as more expensive lights, and the quality is essentially nil. You're starting with some of the lowest quality most inefficient diodes on the market for starters. Doesn't sound like you're getting the reliability issues I had, so maybe not an issue. But I can assure you if you're getting good frost with Mars you'd smash it with a quality light. Grow Lights Australia make the best lights on the market by any metric, if you're wondering ;) Of course when you get them for free makes it a bit easier! I don't think SF or Mars Hydro actually sell lights any more, they just give them away to growers on forums haha!