<span class="link_user">@mybuddymitch</span>, thanks a lot this helped a lot. Now that I've switched to 12 12 light they look way better too I think they may have also needed a bit more airflow and and just a break from the light instead of 24 hours would probably have already been a better idea. But they are looking a fair bit happier today.
<span class="link_user">@BudBoutique</span>, yeah still looking a bit sick, others are looking better, hopefully my calmag arrives and that fixes it a bit.