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@DWreck420, yeah I've had a slow grow but I think it's my doing over 100 days on all of them and I still have atleast a week or 2 before I'm going to chop maybe longer I've been wrong before. But I think training alot and possibly medium really slowed them alot I'm still new so I can't say for sure yet but I'd let them go that purple brown color as my first couple wernt quite ready