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@MowerGrower, I had a pack with a date not even a month or 2 old and of 11 beans only 2 made it to dirt!! What phenos I got were frosty but the last run I tried to do all strawberry Cheesecake but the whole pack sucked! I got frost and the stigma and pistols were all long on 1 and the 2nd one looked really good like it would starch up but stretched a little more in WK 7 Flower and it made all of the buds far apart and they only grew to medium sized buds. I will say that they fixed it quickly! I got a brand new pack of whatever I wanted and I got the flash drop of OG pre 98? Maybe ,(don’t remember the dates), Blueberry Muffins at an F9 and plan to take a male from the other flash drop of DJ Shorts pre 08 Blueberry and breed the best pheno’s!