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I noticed a lot of people doing heavy training with out much experience on here,I guess you're 1 of them?Not all strains are good for training.Decent breeders that care about their customers have a detailed description which will often say weather they're good for scrog or good fro sog.A lot of indicas internodes are too short,the braches are too close together or they grow slow.The hybrids are the best.