<span class="link_user">@AestheticGenetix</span>, i do not only grow fast buds, although I have had good experiences with them! Not saying that autos are the only way to grow! By any means !! But I will say with absolute certainty that my local dispo has never grown anything that I have seen on their shelf even compare to my worst auto run. I usually grow Mephisto when I do run autos! As they are the breeder that got me to even give an auto a chance!! Once i did I liked the speedy runs and the fact they were done by the time i get done vegging a photo, Im chopping an auto!! And trust and believe I would not even bother throwing dirt on it if it wasnt gunna grow good bud! I will rip it out and try something else in its place lonh before I end up or any of my peeps end up with an end product we dont like!! That being said, you hit on some legit points!? Cant knock that any!! But dont sit there and knock down auto growers like we are inferior or something!! You wanna just grow photo period plants and stay away from FB420 we read that loud bruh! But dont act like because u put a seed in that you have to manually flip to flower by reducing lighting time on your timer!! thats literally the difference between my auto runs and my photo runs, the quality of autoflowering genetics have come a very long distance! Who knows maybe an old dog might learn a trick or two!! I know I did!! And the reason I say all, is because I one hundred percent stand on it!!! And will stick up for any body being bullied or downsized by grow nazis!! Like i said some good points ya made there.were lost on me as soon as ya started acting like u fart different than any one else here!! Happy growing bro. And I mean that!! .... And if growing and helping others out doesnt make ya happy then maybe you are in the wrong hobby or just need to keep em to urself