💩Holy Crap We Are Back At It And Loving It💩 Growmies we are at DAY 14 and she's doing really well👌 So I'm starting to pull her over and do some low stress training 🙃 She now gets full feeding from this point 👉 NutriNPK Lights being readjusted and chart updated .........👍rain water to be used entire growth👈 👉I used NutriNPK for nutrients for my grows and welcome anyone to give them a try .👈 👉 www.nutrinpk.com 👈 NutriNPK Cal MAG 14-0-14 NutriNPK Grow 28-14-14 NutriNPK Bloom 8-20-30 NutriNPK Bloom Booster 0-52-34 I GOT MULTIPLE DIARIES ON THE GO 😱 please check them out 😎 👉THANKS FOR TAKING THE TIME TO GO OVER MY DIARIES 👈

Found out the water I was using had a ph of at least 7 instead of 6.5 like I had thought. I also had a cal mag deficiency from using LEDs and reverse osmosis water. Now I have a ph tester to prevent the first issue and cal mag for the second.

Day 39 Light Cycle 18/06 Air Humidity 52~57% Temp 20~26ºC The plants are stretching up very fast and getting bushier. I moved the light cycle back to 18/06 and dimmed the TS 100 to 100%. The plant nº 3 is drinking more water so it was watered with 1 litter today. Day 41 Light Cycle 18/06 Air Humidity 65 ~70% Temp 20~28ºC Yesterday, the plants were top dressed with 10g of EcoThrive Charge mix with soil and watered with 200ml plain water. and today I gave the regular dose of nutrients (1L on each) The plants were defoliated, and I try to spread the maximum I could on the scrog. Overall, they are looking very healthy and vigorous. All the secondary branches are stretching up rapidly. I can wait to see the results

Fotos vor der Ernte, aber noch nicht trocken.🍓🍓🍓♥️♥️♥️♥️

Gorilla girl is going into darkness today. Will ne harvested in 2 days. Thanks again sweet seeds has been a great plant. Thank you grow diaries community for the likes, follows, and subscriptions on my YouTube channel. I greatly appreciate the support. Happy growing 🌱🌱🌱

7/12. Sorry I haven't updated. Been working long weeks. So, I got the tent stabilized. Humidity is at a constant 55%. I brewed a batch of compost tea made from fresh compost, worm castings, Urb, molasses, and Maxicrop Liquid Seaweed. I gave each plant about a half gallon each through a sprayer.

Found large numbers of spidermites as well as some thrips. Luckily all were on my marigold plants, a few had wondered on to my ladies but the issue has been contained with minimal harm to the plants

Blüten werden kompakter, ab jetzt etwas weniger Dünger ... Trichome werden langsam milchig .... Bei den kleineren Phänotyp Ernte vielleicht in 2 Wochen ?

Blue Dream Auto has moved into flower!!! She has quite a few nice tops. She got her first defoliation. Removed lower leaves & a handful of lower bud sites to increase airflow and direct the nutrients up to the main tops. Moved her out of the VGROW into the flowering tent. Started feeding flowering nutes. Already noticed some nutrient burn so will adjust accordingly. Nice looking plant!!! 🙌

SHERBERT QUEEN AUTO / RQS Week #8 OVERALL WEEK #3 FLOWER This week she's doing well no issues to report this week she got a nice color to her buds are are starting to get some weight and she's getting good trichome coverage. Stay Growing!! Thank you for stopping by and taking a look much appreciated!! Thank you ROYAL QUEEN SEEDS!! SHERBERT QUEEN AUTO / RQS

🌿 8×8 Adventure – Week 14 Amnesia Haze Auto by Zamnesia – Pheno A 👑 The Queen of the Yo-Yo World Is Still Reigning… And She's Moving FAST! 😂🌸🔥 Hello everyone, and welcome back to another chapter of the 8×8 Adventure! 🌱💚 Well... As expected. Absolutely as expected. 😂😂😂 OUR QUEEN IS STILL THE QUEEN OF THE YO-YO WORLD! 👑🌿⚖️😂 Seriously, my friends... This girl is HEAVY. Not a little heavy. Not "maybe we should support that branch" heavy. We're talking about the kind of heavy where you look at the plant, look at the supports, look at the plant again, and start wondering whether the entire yoyo department needs to be put on permanent standby. 😂😂😂👑 And the answer is... YES. YES, IT DOES. Because our Amnesia Haze Auto Pheno A is still carrying a serious amount of flower throughout her structure. The branches are loaded. The flowers are substantial. The plant is evolving quickly. And when I look at her this week, I get the feeling that we're moving into an increasingly important part of her journey. She's changing. She's developing. She's looking increasingly mature. But is she ready to finish? That's a different question. And one we're not going to answer just because the calendar says Week 14. 😂🌸 For now, she's staying right where she is. We're going to keep watching her, supporting her, documenting her, and allowing the next chapter to reveal itself. Because this Queen isn't going anywhere just yet. 👑💚 So let's give her the individual report she deserves! ──────────────────────── 👑 WEEK 14 — LONG LIVE THE QUEEN OF YOYOS! Let's start with the obvious. She's still incredibly heavy. 😂⚖️🌸 Last week, we were already talking about the ridiculous amount of support this girl needed. And this week? The title remains firmly hers. The Queen of the Yo-Yo World. No competition. No challengers. No appeals. 😂👑 Looking at her structure, it's easy to understand why those supports are such an important part of her story. She's carrying substantial flowers throughout the plant, not just in one single location. The weight is distributed across her branches, and the overall structure needs support to help everything remain where it should. And honestly, I love that this has become part of her individual personality. Some plants make an impression through height. Others through colour. Others through the shape of their flowers. This girl? She makes an impression through sheer weight. 😂🌿🌸⚖️ She's compact in certain parts of her architecture, but don't let that fool you. There is a lot happening throughout this plant. And the yoyo department is still very much open for business. ──────────────────────── 😂 THE YOYO DEPARTMENT IS NOT CLOSING ANYTIME SOON I think we need to make this official. 😂 At this point, the yoyos deserve their own diary. Maybe we should call it: "The 8×8 Adventure — Supporting the Support System." 😂😂😂👑 One branch needs help. Another branch is carrying serious weight. And suddenly, we're looking around the room to see whether there's another support available. Because when a plant becomes this heavy, support is no longer some decorative extra. It's part of managing the structure we've got. And with Amnesia Haze Pheno A, that structure has become one of the defining features of the entire grow. The important thing is that we're not trying to reshape her into something she's not. We're simply helping her carry what she's produced. She built the flowers. She created the weight. She developed those branches. We're here to support the result. That's it. 😂🌿👑 So, no... the yoyo department isn't going anywhere. And neither is the Queen. At least, not for now. ──────────────────────── 🌸 SHE'S EVOLVING FAST — AND THAT'S WHAT HAS MY ATTENTION Beyond the weight, the other thing catching my attention this week is how quickly she's changing. She's still developing. The flowers continue to evolve. And the overall appearance of the plant is changing as we move deeper into this stage of the run. That's what makes this moment so interesting. We have a plant that has already built a substantial structure, and now we're watching how that structure develops as the flowering cycle progresses. When I compare the way she looks now with the earlier chapters, I can see why she's becoming such an interesting plant to follow. She's not standing still. She's not simply repeating the same week. She's changing. And she's doing it quickly enough to make me wonder what the next set of photographs will show us. 😂📸🌸 But here's the important part. Fast development doesn't automatically tell us the exact amount of time remaining. The plant can look increasingly mature while still having changes left to make. So I'm not going to declare a finish date. I'm going to keep observing her. Keep documenting her. And let the next week tell us more. For now, she's evolving fast, carrying serious weight, and keeping the Queen title firmly in place. 👑🌿🔥 ──────────────────────── 🔍 THE FINAL CHAPTERS MAY BE APPROACHING… BUT WE'RE NOT WRITING THE ENDING YET I have to admit, when I look at this girl now, I start thinking about the final stages of her journey. She's looking increasingly mature. She's carrying substantial flowers. And the changes are becoming more noticeable from one update to the next. But I want to keep one thing clear. Looking close to the end and actually being ready are not necessarily the same thing. The photographs help us document appearance and progression, but they cannot tell us everything about maturity on their own. That's why we're going to keep watching rather than making assumptions. Next week is next week. 😂🌿 For now, she stays where she is, and we continue following her story. No premature farewell. No harvest announcement. No guessing just to put a date on the calendar. We'll see what time tells us. And honestly? That's part of the fun. ──────────────────────── 🌸 A PLANT THAT HAS EARNED HER SUPPORT Let's take a moment to appreciate what all those supports represent. They're not the main attraction. The flowers are. But the supports tell us something about the structure of this particular plant. She's carrying enough weight that we need to pay attention to the branches and help them remain supported. And that's another reason I enjoy keeping individual diaries. If I simply wrote, "Amnesia Haze Auto is doing well," we'd miss so much of what makes this particular phenotype interesting. We'd miss her unusual leaf presentation. We'd miss the substantial flower development. We'd miss the sheer number of supports. And we'd miss the little details that have made her the Queen of the Yo-Yo World. 😂👑⚖️ This is her story. Not every Amnesia Haze Auto will look exactly like this. Not every plant will develop the same architecture. And that's precisely why we document the individual plants rather than pretending one description represents every phenotype. ──────────────────────── 📸 THE PHOTOGRAPHS — ANOTHER CHAPTER IN HER STORY This week's photographs continue the visual record of our Queen. The wider shots help show the plant's overall architecture and how much space she occupies. The closer shots let us appreciate the individual flowers and their developing structure. And the support details? Well... those deserve a little attention too. 😂📸👑 Because they're part of the reality of this plant. It's easy to focus exclusively on beautiful flower portraits, but the full-plant photographs help tell the larger story. They show us how the plant is developing as a whole. They provide context for the branches. They show where the flowers sit within the canopy. And they help us compare this week's appearance with the previous updates. That's the value of keeping a proper diary. We don't have to rely on memory alone. We can look back and follow the progression. And with this girl, that progression has been fascinating. ──────────────────────── 💎 THE FLOWERS ARE STILL THE STARS Let's not allow the yo-yos to steal the entire show. 😂🌸 They're important, certainly. But they're supporting the plant, not replacing the flowers as the main attraction. The flowers are what make this girl so substantial. The distribution of those flowers throughout the plant is part of what makes her structure so impressive. And the way the plant continues to evolve is what keeps me interested in the next update. She's not just a plant with a lot of supports. She's a plant that has developed a structure substantial enough to make those supports necessary. That's a very different story. And it's one I want to keep documenting honestly. So yes... the Queen of the Yo-Yo World remains on her throne. But the flowers are the reason she got there. 👑🌸💚 ──────────────────────── 🌿 OBSERVATION OVER UNNECESSARY INTERVENTION At this point in the adventure, I'm increasingly focused on observing rather than constantly trying to change the plants. Earlier in the run, there were plenty of moments for structural work, positioning, and other interventions. Now, the plants have established their individual architectures. The flowers are developing. And the priorities are different. We're observing the plants. Monitoring the room. Keeping an eye on the support system. Documenting the changes. And responding when something actually needs attention. With this girl, support is clearly part of the story. But we don't need to manufacture extra work just because we're in the grow room. Sometimes the best thing you can do is recognize what the plant needs and leave the rest alone. The Queen is doing her thing. We're here to help her carry the results. 😂👑🌿 ──────────────────────── ☀️ SAME ROOM — SAME PHOTONS — HER OWN RESPONSE The 8×8 lighting setup remains part of the same shared environment. The two additional Future of Grow Black Series 600W fixtures are still part of the expanded setup, giving us more lighting capability and flexibility. Our established reference has been approximately: 🔌 59% power from the plug. ☀️ Around 1,500 PPFD across the upper canopy. Those figures describe our previous room reference, not a newly verified measurement at every point of this plant. The canopy is three-dimensional. Different branches and flowers sit at different heights and positions, so light exposure naturally varies throughout the structure. And that's one of the interesting parts of this experiment. Amnesia Haze Auto Pheno A has developed her own architecture under the same general environment as the other plants. She's substantial. She's heavy. She's developing quickly. And she's requiring plenty of support. The lighting is one part of the shared environment, but we're not going to attribute every characteristic of this phenotype to one factor alone. We're documenting what we see and comparing it with the other plants. Same room. Same artificial sun. Different genetic expressions. That's the 8×8 Adventure. 💡🌿☀️ ──────────────────────── 💡 MORE CAPABILITY, MORE CONTROL The additional Future of Grow fixtures have given us more available lighting capability, but the point isn't to run everything at maximum simply because we can. It's about having more flexibility and control over the lighting setup. We're observing the plants within that expanded environment and documenting how differently they express themselves. And that has been one of the most interesting parts of this project. A huge thank you to Future of Grow for supplying the two additional Black Series 600W fixtures for us to test. Having that extra capacity while controlling the output has given us another important part of the 8×8 experiment. More capability. More control. More photons. And twelve different plants responding in their own ways. 💚☀️🌿 ──────────────────────── 🔴 THE RED-LIGHT ROUTINE — KEEPING THE SCIENCE HONEST We're also continuing to document the additional 15-minute red-light period after the main lighting period. Red and far-red wavelengths interact with the plant's phytochrome system, which helps plants interpret their light environment. The response depends on the wavelength, intensity, timing, duration, and the rest of the conditions. So we're treating this as a documented part of our lighting routine, not as a guaranteed way to accelerate flowering or produce a particular result. With Amnesia Haze Auto Pheno A, we're watching the plant's overall progression. She's developing quickly. She's carrying substantial flower. And her appearance is changing as the run progresses. But we cannot conclude from those observations alone that the red-light routine caused the changes. That's why we keep documenting the whole environment and avoid turning correlation into proof. We're here to learn, compare, and share the journey honestly. 🔴🌿🔬 ──────────────────────── 🔬 A LITTLE LIGHT SCIENCE — THE EMERSON EFFECT Since we're discussing red light, let's revisit the Emerson effect. The Emerson effect describes how photosynthesis can respond more efficiently when suitable red and far-red wavelengths are supplied together under particular experimental conditions. It involves the cooperation between two major components of the light-dependent reactions of photosynthesis: 🌿 Photosystem II (PSII) 🌿 Photosystem I (PSI) These photosystems have different light-absorption characteristics. Under suitable conditions, combining light that supports both can produce a greater photosynthetic response than would be expected from the individual wavelengths alone. It's a fascinating example of how plant responses to light involve more than simply increasing brightness. But there is an important distinction. The Emerson effect does not mean every red-light treatment produces the same response, nor does it prove that a particular 15-minute red-light routine will increase yield, accelerate flowering, or determine harvest timing. Spectrum, intensity, timing, and experimental conditions matter. Our additional red-light period is part of the routine we're documenting in this grow. We're not claiming that it automatically reproduces the Emerson effect. We're recording what we do, observing the plants, and keeping our conclusions grounded in the evidence we have. That's how we keep learning without turning an interesting scientific concept into an unsupported promise. 💡🔬🌱 ──────────────────────── ⚗️ NUTRITION — THE ROOM'S SHARED APPROACH The room continues under the same general flowering nutrition approach, with the nutritional programme being adjusted progressively as the plants move through the later stages. The established foundation includes the relevant Plagron Terra flowering products and additives used for this run. Our previous room references were approximately: ⚗️ pH — around 6.0. ⚡ EC — around 2.05 mS/cm during the previous stage. These are continuity references, not fresh readings confirmed specifically for this update. The important part is that we're looking at the plant alongside the wider room conditions, rather than trying to explain her entire development through a single number. And with this Queen, the story remains clear. She's developing. She's carrying weight. She's changing quickly. And we're continuing to observe her rather than assuming every plant will follow the same timeline. ──────────────────────── 🌡️ THE 8×8 ROOM — SHARED CONDITIONS Our previously established room references were approximately: 🌸 Flowering — Week 14. 💡 Light schedule — 12/12. ☀️ Upper-canopy PPFD reference — around 1,500. 🔌 Future of Grow output — around 59% from the plug. 🌡️ Day temperature — around 26.5–27°C. 🌙 Night temperature — around 25–26°C. 💧 Relative humidity — around 60–61%. 🌱 Substrate temperature — around 25–26°C. 💦 Nutrient solution temperature — around 25°C. ⚗️ pH — around 6.0. ⚡ EC — previously around 2.05 mS/cm. 💨 CO₂ — around 693 ppm. 💧 Previous irrigation reference — around 1.4–1.45 L per plant per 24 hours. 🌱 Pot size — 15 L. These are the established room references from earlier reports, not a claim that every reading was retaken this week. The room provides the shared background. Each plant gives us her own response. And Amnesia Haze Auto Pheno A continues to give us plenty to talk about. 👑🌿🌸 ──────────────────────── 🔬 SAME ROOM — DIFFERENT PLANTS, DIFFERENT TIMELINES This remains the heart of the 8×8 Adventure. Twelve plants. One room. The same general environmental approach. The same lighting philosophy. The same overall nutritional strategy. And twelve individual expressions. Some plants are compact. Some are tall. Some take their time. Some seem to change before our eyes. Some produce different flower structures. And some make us install enough supports to start considering a career in the yoyo industry. 😂😂😂👑 Amnesia Haze Auto Pheno A is one of those plants that makes her personality impossible to miss. She's substantial. She's heavy. She's developing quickly. And she's moving through her own timeline. That's what makes this experiment worthwhile. We're not trying to make every plant behave identically. We're documenting what each one actually does. ──────────────────────── 💬 JOIN THE DOG DOCTOR COMMUNITY! Want to talk about the 8×8 Adventure, share your own experiences, ask questions, or hang out with other growers? Come and join us on Discord! 💚🌱 🔗 https://discord.gg/dogdoctorofficial Different genetics, different environments, different experiences, and plenty to learn from one another. Come say hello and join the conversation! ──────────────────────── 🔮 WHAT HAPPENS NEXT? NEXT WEEK IS NEXT WEEK! And this is where I'm happy to leave the story for now. 😂🌿👑 She's evolving quickly. She's carrying a serious amount of weight. She's looking increasingly mature. And I have the feeling we're approaching an important part of her journey. But we're not going to rush the conclusion. She's not going anywhere for now. We'll keep watching her. We'll keep documenting her. We'll keep paying attention to the flowers and the overall plant. And next week? We'll see what next week brings. 😂🌸 No premature finish line. No promises about a date. Just the Queen, her ridiculous support network, and another chapter of the 8×8 Adventure. ──────────────────────── ❤️ FINAL THOUGHTS — THE QUEEN IS STILL REIGNING Week 14. And our Amnesia Haze Auto Pheno A is still doing what she does best. 👑🌿🔥 She's heavy. She's beautiful. She's evolving quickly. She's carrying substantial flowers throughout her structure. And she's still the undisputed Queen of the Yo-Yo World. 😂😂😂⚖️ The support system remains an important part of her story, and we're continuing to keep an eye on her as she moves through this stage. She's looking increasingly mature, and it's tempting to start thinking about the final chapter. But we're going to let time tell us when that chapter actually arrives. For now, she's staying where she is. We're observing. We're documenting. We're supporting what needs support. And we're enjoying the show. Because this is what the 8×8 Adventure is about. Not forcing every plant into the same schedule. Not pretending we know the ending before it happens. But paying attention to the individual plant in front of us. And this girl? She's giving us a hell of a story. 👑🌿🌸💎 Keep doing your thing, Queen. Keep showing us what you're capable of. Keep carrying those flowers. And please... try not to make me expand the yoyo department again next week. 😂😂😂👑 Although, let's be honest... if you need another one, you'll get another one. That's what the department is here for. 💚🌱 Let's keep the photons flying. Let's keep documenting. Let's keep learning. And most importantly... let's let this beautiful Queen shine. ──────────────────────── 🙏 THANK YOU A massive thank you to everyone following the 8×8 Adventure here on GrowDiaries. 💚🌱 Thank you to Zamnesia for the Amnesia Haze Auto genetics and for giving us the opportunity to follow this individual phenotype throughout the journey. Thank you to Plagron for supporting the garden with the growing media and nutrition. A huge thank you to Future of Grow for supplying the additional Black Series 600W fixtures and allowing us to test the expanded lighting setup inside the 8×8. Thank you to Lumiflora for helping bring additional light deeper into the canopy and allowing us to explore the garden as the three-dimensional environment it really is. And thank you to TrolMaster for helping monitor and manage the room behind the scenes. Finally, thank you to everyone who follows these diaries, leaves a comment, asks a question, or simply stops by to see how the girls are doing. Every bit of support means a lot. 💚 Twelve plants. One room. Twelve individual stories. And our Amnesia Haze Auto Pheno A? She's still the Queen. Still heavy. Still evolving. Still surrounded by enough yoyos to keep an entire department employed. 😂👑⚖️🌸 We're not rushing her. We're not writing her ending. We're simply watching, documenting, and letting her show us what comes next. Growers Love, my friends! 💚🌱 Happy growing, take care everyone... and don't forget to join the Dog Doctor community on Discord: https://discord.gg/dogdoctorofficial See you next week in the 8×8 jungle! 👑🌿🌸💎☀️🔥

2nd time I've grown this strain. Enjoyed it enough to grow it again and this time it may have been better. . Chopped on day 88 Dried for 10 days and yielded 48.3 grams

Found mold on my plant. Since she is now pretty close to harvest time, this was her last watering and I will now try to dry her out slowly over her Last week. Probably gonna harvest next week if nothing goes wrong from here on out.

Sweet Skunk is my star! Her name is Darlene! Positive energy. LET'S GO!

Mostly the same conditions. I have one girl that’s maturing more quickly than the other. Struggling through what I believe is a phosphorus deficiency in both plants. It happened literally overnight. I’m hoping this doesn’t hurt my yields too badly

Week 7 Light cycle=12/12 Light Power=196w Extractor controller settings High temp= 25c Low temp= c Temp step=0c High Rh= 56% Low Rh= % Rh step=0% Speed max=10 Speed min=2 Fri 2/2/24 #3 (Day 43)(Day 5 flower) 📋 raised camera, nearly touching the roof. Sat 3/2/24 #3 (Day 44)(Day 6 flower) 📋 Defoliate a lot of lower leaves. Sun 4/2/24 💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧 Method= automatic Feed=bloom nutes. Neutralise=0.1ml/L Silicon=1.0ml/L Calmag=1.0ml/L Terra Bloom=4.0ml/L Sumo Boost=1.0ml/L Roots=0.2ml/L Easy Ph down=0.115ml/L Ec=1.9 PH=6.1/6.5 Time start=12.00pm Finish time=13.45pm (11×5 minute runs with 5 minute gaps) Total flow rate=190ml/min Flow rate per plant=47ml/min. Total volume made=13L Total volume left=2.5L Total volume used=10.5L Volume per plant=2.62L (Est) Runoff. Total runoff=1.75L Ec=2.4PH=5.9/6.2 💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧 #3 (Day 45)(Day 7 flower) 📋 Mon 5/2/24 #3 (Day 46)(Day 8 flower) 📋 H=49cm D=50cm DLI=33.0 Raised the pot a little. H=49cm D=43cm DLI=35.5 Tue 6/2/24 #3 (Day 47)(Day 9 flower) 📋 Looks like the weather is turning cold again over the next few days. Wed 7/2/24 💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧 Method= automatic Feed=water Neutralise=0.1ml/L Roots=0.2ml/L Easy Ph down=0.ml/L Ec=0.2 PH=6.6/6.5 Time start=12.00pm Finish time=13.45pm (11×5 minute runs with 5 minute gaps) Total flow rate=190ml/min Flow rate per plant=47ml/min. Total volume made=13L Total volume left=2.5L Total volume used=10.5L Volume per plant=2.6L (Est) Runoff. Total runoff=1.5L Ec=1.74 PH=6.6/ 💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧 #3 (Day 48)(Day 10 flower) 📋 H=53cm D=39cm DLI=42.0 Thur 8/2/24 #3 (Day 49)(Day 11 flower) 📋 H=55cm D=37cm DLI=45.0 Raised light 5cm. Lowered power from 200w to 180w H=55cm D=42cm DLI=37.0 This one is progressing OK. A little bit smaller then the others in the tent by about 20cm. She has lost the battle for space and is the runt of the grow at this moment in time. Back soon. Take it easy.

------GENERAL COMMENT------ As planed I lowered the base nutrient to 2ml, and took a break from Cal Mag, to release the N a bit, green is on point now. Tomorrow will catch up with the Cal Mag schedule as usual. Time for some overdrive, for the rest all good, girls are developing well and buds are getting bigger, no issues. Smelling delicious! Hope I had some Terpinator to give a go... ------SM.BB COMMENT------ BB is maturing faster you already can see I have cloudy Trichomes, she will be a fast finisher as it looks like...