She looks so gorgeous, almost all of these turned purple Nugs looking beautiful Super scared of Budrot, will spray her few days with baking soda-milk-water mix. This will be the last week of feeding her , checked her on the magnifier she is milky like 90% Thinking to defoliate her to prevent, for more air circulation Start adding overdrive this week

Did first nutrient feeding w fox farms nutes. Very little. Things were going perfect then I woke up this am to slight curling again. I changed light distance and put in my other light as well so I’m now in need of ac unit or another fan bc it’s getting hotter, 85. Or I figure I could run my exhaust fan 24/7 and take it off my humidity switch but then I got to possibly get another humidifier bc the exhaust fan takes the humidity out of the room. Idk but the girls all in all are looking good to me. started lst on 6/30 using grow big and big bloom now

This plant is a beast I finally got the nutrients down and got rid of the light color growth it was having the plant would have been great to have a clone it is definitely something worth growing again

MrJones Ztrawberriez Auto 🍓╰⊰🍓´🍓⊱╮🍓╰⊰🍓´🍓⊱╮🍓╰⊰🍓´🍓⊱╮🍓╰⊰🍓´🍓⊱╮🍓 💧 Feeding - Using Gaia Green Grow / Bloom and Compost Teas 🍃Training / LST-Defoliation-Topping TBA 🕷️ IPM - Will be using Green Cleaner" 1 OZ per Gallon, and CannControl from Mammoth alternating between products each month for Integrated Pest 🍓╰⊰🍓´🍓⊱╮🍓╰⊰🍓´🍓⊱╮🍓╰⊰🍓´🍓⊱╮🍓╰⊰🍓´🍓⊱╮🍓 ▶️Saturday 11.18.23 - These girls are just blowing up, always like the flower stretch of FastBuds strains, the smells are nice and they are starting to drink more, the closet is filling up, did another PPM treatment with CanControl. 🍓´🍓⊱╮🍓╰⊰🍓´🍓⊱╮🍓╰⊰🍓´🍓⊱╮🍓╰⊰🍓´🍓⊱╮🍓 ▶️Bud Description Ztrawberriez Auto produces long and fat buds with a beautiful light green shade with oftentimes purplish hues and a thick layer of resin that starts at the top of the flowers and continues all the way to the tip of the sugar leaves. It’s the typical bud structure you would expect from hybrid varieties topped with an explosion of fruity terps that’ll hit you in the face with a blend of creamy, fruity, and sweet aromas as soon as you break the buds open. Definitely a must for terp heads and extractors looking for exaggerated flavors and aromas 🍓╰⊰🍓´🍓⊱╮🍓╰⊰🍓´🍓⊱╮🍓╰⊰🍓´🍓⊱╮🍓╰⊰🍓´🍓⊱╮🍓 ▶️SOIL MIX 40% ProMix HP 40% Coco Coir 70/30 15% Worm Castings 05% Malibu Compost 🍓╰⊰🍓´🍓⊱╮🍓╰⊰🍓´🍓⊱╮🍓╰⊰🍓´🍓⊱╮🍓╰⊰🍓´🍓⊱╮🍓

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Segunda semana de floración para nuestras #kriticalbilbo de @genehtik_seeds 🐷🌱🌺🍒. En esta semana aplicamos solo base de floración así preparamos nuestras plantas para la segunda dosis de #bigone de @topcrop 🕶️🤠. En las fotos se puede apreciar un ejemplar especial de la Kriticalbilbo, tenía un brazo creciendo al mismo tiempo del central sufrió un ataque gatuno y la dejó gravemente herida, gracias a la habilidad del jardinero se logró amarrar y salvar, ahora es la más hermosa de las #kriticalbilbo con más de 8 brazos engordando a full 🕶️🤠😁 Comentarios y sugerencias les leo siempre... 😇 Recuerden seguirme en instagram como @Cecilioeljardinero.

Vamos familia septima semana de floración de estás Punch Pie de RoyalQueenSeeds . Que ganas tengo de ver el final de progreso de esta variedad, las plantas están sanas, se ven con buen color. La cantidad de agua cada 48h entre riegos, nutrientes de la gama Agrobeta. Y entramos en la recta final, últimas semanas de floración ya, y como se están poniendo las flores. Estas próximas semanas veremos cómo acaban. Mars hydro: Code discount: EL420 https://www.mars-hydro.com/ Agrobeta: https://www.agrobeta.com/agrobetatiendaonline/36-abonos-canamo Hasta aquí todo, Buenos humos 💨💨💨

6.4. Die 3 Babys wurden jeweils in 15l Stofftöpfe von Zamnesia 1,5cm unterhalb Erdfläche eingelegt und mit Erde bedeckt. Als Erde wird die 420Grow Erde von Gardenboss verwendet und es wurden jeweils 10gramm von Rhizobacter (RQS) der Erde beigefügt. Im untersten Teil der Stofftöpfe wurden Blähtonkugeln ausgelegt. Die ersten 2-3 Wochen sollen die Pflanzen auf der Fensterbank zur Südseite wachsen und dann in einem Foliengewächshaus (Kesser) auf dem Balkon (ebenfalls südliche Ausrichtung) bis zur Ernte bleiben.

12/13- Here we go...Week 6 of flower and shit's gonna be happening from here on out to harvest! Now it's more important than ever to make sure that everything is on point, and I mean EVERYTHING: Temp's/RH/co2/VPD/Water and Nutrients. All is critical at this stage as the girls are pouring everything they have into their flowers and anything that upsets them will have a direct negative affect on them. They were fed today .75g de-chlorinated water with a starting ppm of 100 with a 0.2 EC. To the water was added Fox Farms Nutrients (Big Bloom/Tiger Bloom/Bembe/ChaChing) to give a final solution strength of 1700ppm's 3.4 EC @ 74deg. with a final ph of 6.2. They get watered with a 2g pump sprayer with a hose and wand attached from which I remove the spray head so that it gives a steady stream. It comes in handy, and I water them right at the main trunk and let the moisture soak up and outward through the entire pot. The Meringue is continuing to turn beautiful shades of reds and pinks and the #2 White Widow pheno is expressing some pink tips on some of the sugar leaves on her flowers. The Seedsman Peyote WiFi is stacking like hell and some of her shade leaves have turned yellow as she uses up nutrients in them. After todays heavy feed we'll see how she responds in the next day or so. The Poochie Love's are smokin' hot! Man I LOVE this strain, what a couple of beauties, vigorous and tolerant of just about anything you can throw at them. 12/15- Took down the trellis net today...I was using the braided nylon type, as it was what I had, and couldn't stand seeing the fucking fibers from it sticking to all of the 'fruits' of my labor and love so down it came!😡 It was, of course, a royal PITA to remove it trying to avoid further deposits of fibers from it dragging over the plants...so happy it's gone! All the girls appear to share my joy as they are looking sexy as hell!😍 They're getting watered daily now with 3/4g de-chlorinated water ph'd to 6.2-6.5 @ 72-74 deg. With the Dutch Passion Meringue and the Peyote WiFi from Seedsman seeds are the two thirstiest of the bunch and always seem to be thirsty and aren't shy about letting you know! Today all that was added was Fox Farms Boomerang (final ph of 6.2 @ 74 deg. 500ppm / 1.0 EC) to help with the stress they encountered during the trellis removal. All of the girls colas are stacking like crazy and getting huge with heavy trichome production, especially on the Dutch Passion Meringue and Whit Widow, as well as the Archive Seed Poochie Love's. 12/17- Today was feed day, they all drank up 3/4g de-chlorinated water (the Meringue and Peyote WiFi got 1g each) with Fox Farms nutrients added (Big Bloom/Tiger Bloom/Bembe/ChaChing) to reach a final solution strength of 1400ppm's 2.8 EC at a 6.3 ph that was adjusted up using baking soda. Day temp's are maintaining a range of 78-82 degrees and night temp's I've dropped to 64-67 degrees for the final 3-4 weeks of flower to get that beautiful 'fall fade'. I've had to stake up the branches on the Peyote WiFi and White Widow #1 as their colas are so freakishly large they're bending the branches completely over (no...I don't miss the trellis net!😠) and actually split one on the White Widow that I had to administer some First Aid to (don't worry...she'll be just fine!). The variety of aromas coming off my girls is amazing and goes from piney to gas, to sweet/fruity...just mouth watering. I wish you could smell them, I'm sure you'd smile a big toothy grin!😁 12/19- I know I said it before...but I really dislike trellis nets! 😆 So as an added PITA after removing it, the stalks on the Meringue, Peyote WiFi and White Widow #1 are too weak to support the weight of the massive cola's they're sporting. The netting supported the branches and as a result they had no need to stiffen up the way a plant without support would do. I went ahead and staked all three to give the stalks/cola's support. Unfortunately when I was working on the Meringue one of her stalks coming off the very bottom of the main stalk broke off clean at the main trunk.😖 Never accepting defeat easily, I cut about 4" off the stalk, jammed it in some Clonex Gel and stuck it in a 1g pot with coco/perlite, then watered it in thoroughly. Eight hours later its leaves are still not drooping so I'll keep my fingers crossed and see what it looks like tomorrow. Pisses me off to have it happen as there's probably close to 1/2 oz. of flower on it...oh well, not the first branch I've broken, and more than likely wont be the last!😎 Straight de-chlorinated water today, .75g each with 5ml/g Botanicare CalMag+ added then ph'd to 6.3 @ 74 degrees F. They are looking like Rock Stars and are only going to get better from here on out...hang on!

*Week 6 of flowering 10/01* Critical +2.0 - Apple Fritter Both plants are nearing harvest and have maxed out at a height of 48 inches. Buds have developed heavy trichomes and are giving off a bright and vibrant smell. 85% of both plants have grown in their orange hairs and have a bright green and orange tint, Today will be the last nutrient feed, I will be using the "Lotus Carboflush" starting tomorrow (10/02) to remove the salt build up until harvest which will be next week (10/09) * 10/8 - Cut down* Both are heavy on top - Covered in trichomes - smells deep (Citrus) Dry trimming in two weeks - aiming for 14 day cure. *Day 2 Dry Hang Video uploaded 10/09* *10/15 - Harvest should be completed by the end of this week - 10/20*

Finalmente complete 1 semana más de floracion(semana 18), guiándome por los pistillos abundan los blancos y no asi los oxidados, por eso decidí no cortar todavía, (he inspeccionado con lupas los tricomas y aun les falta madurar un poco mas, según mi criterio),esperare un poco mas.igualmente sigo regando solo con agua. Estas últimas semanas he sido un poco desprolijo con el diario, con respecto a imágenes y fechas, pero esto es mas que nada por una cuestión de tiempo,(si alguien que vea este diario ,sabe de algún empleo o esta relacionado al cultivo de cannabis y necesita de un cannabicultor dedicado tengan en cuenta a esta persona que les escribe,😉😁 la verdad esto me apasiona, pero bueno en mi día a dia se me complica para hacerle el seguimiento exhaustivo que necesitan las plantas, pero ya lo saben)😅😅🚀🚀😉😉

Gushers is bulking strong under the Spider Farmer G5000/UVR40 lights, in the Athena blended line nutrition. She has a nice frost layer and a sweet aroma at the moment. She is grow great. Thank you Spider Farmer, Athena, and Royal Queen Seeds. 👸 🤜🏻🤛🏻🌱🌱🌱 Discount code:GROWERS20 Thank you grow diaries community for the 👇likes👇, follows, comments, and subscriptions on my YouTube channel👇. ❄️🌱🍻 Happy Growing 🌱🌱🌱 https://youtube.com/channel/UCAhN7yRzWLpcaRHhMIQ7X4g Spider Farmer Official Website Links: US&Worldwide: https://www.spider-farmer.com CA: https://spiderfarmer.ca UK: https://spiderfarmer.co.uk EU: https://spiderfarmer.eu AU: https://spiderfarmer.com.au G5000 Light Amazon Link: amzn.to/4643esa UVR 40: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BR7SGTHS Discount code: saveurcash (Stackable)

Letzte Woche letzte LST und eine letzte EC 2,3 vegi calmag Lösung dann die Blüte in 7 Tagen max vielleicht in 4

These 2 LSD-25 are growing well ,allow the only resemblance to each other they have is their colour and smell . They are nearing the end and I can’t wait to try this strain :)

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Now In Week 3 of Bloom and are getting the pom pom's😍. First time giving them bloom food although my Runoff EC was too low in most pots; I'm thinking this is cause I've previously leached the medium? I hope I soon get this EC Runoff closer to 1800 to 2000. I have 2 plants that I stunted that are now 18" tall they are the shortest, and the most tortured😣 with high salts; most plants are 33" high now. The colour is much more natural and not so leathery looking to me. I had to adjust the Bloom food & add more in order to get me at 1800. I'm going to feed more frequently and hope this helps to bring up the EC runoff on the pots which are low while not overdosing the others. OCT 2nd & 3rd- Inputs: 6.3PH - 20.3 & 19.8 Temp - 1.8EC Runoffs: Pot 1 PH 5.5 Temp 20.6 EC 2.1 Pot 2 PH 5.9 Temp 20.6 EC 1.7 Pot 3 PH 6.0 Temp 20.4 EC 1.7 Pot 4 PH 5.5 Temp 20.8 EC 1.6 Pot 5 PH 5.4 Temp 20.2 EC 1.7 Pot 6 PH5.9 Temp 20.8 EC 1.8 Pot 7 PH 5.8 Temp 20.3 EC 1,9 Pot 8 PH 5.3 Temp 20.9 EC 1.5 Pot 9 PH 5.8 Temp 21.7 EC 1.4 Pot 10 PH 5.3 Temp 20.7 EC 1.9 Pot 11 PH 5.7 Temp 21.2 EC 1.7 Pot 12 PH 5.8 Temp 21.5 EC 1.4 Pot 13 PH 5.8 Temp 22.4 EC 1.5 Pot 14 PH 5.5 Temp 21.8 EC 1.6 Pot 15 PH 5.6 Temp 22.6 EC 1.7 Pot 16 PH 5.9 Temp 21.8 EC 1.5 Because of my trays I can water 5 Plants at a time so this monitoring takes awhile but I'm getting better at it😄 OCT 8 Inputs PH 6.3 Temp 20.8 EC 1.8 -- Run off was 1.7, 1.8, 1.9, 2.0 *EC of well water is 0.9 EC or 450 PPM.

🌾 Harvest Day — The Grand Finale of the Eternity Grow Cup 🌾 Days 72–73 | Trimmed on May 25 | Posted May 27 What a journey this has been — and what a finish. These five incredible Runtz phenos have now completed their cycle, and today, we celebrate the final stage of their flowering life: the Harvest. We sent the girls into darkness on Day 70, allowing them a full 48+ hours of rest and reset. The dark period was just a bit longer, truth be told, because time… it flows as it must. This extended dark time helps increase resin production, allowing the trichomes to mature just that final bit more. On Days 72 and 73, we harvested them with care and reverence. Each plant was hung upside down, whole, in a perfectly controlled 60% humidity environment for 13 full days. Before hanging, we gently removed only the fan leaves, leaving all trichome-rich sugar leaves in place — a natural armor for the delicate resin glands during drying. Why do we do this? Because those sugar leaves help protect the essential oils and terpenes, preserving potency, flavor, and aroma for the smoothest experience later on. 🌿 The Dry Room & The Trichome Guardians Throughout the drying, we used a moisture meter to monitor the moisture content in the stems. Once it dropped to around 12–13%, we knew it was time. This tool is a simple but game-changing ally in ensuring a perfect dry — not too fast, not too slow. We then trimmed everything by hand over a 6.5-hour focused session. Armed with trim bins and good energy, we collected an abundance of glistening trichome heads in the process — a golden bonus from these resin-packed beauties. The leaves themselves told a story: deep purples, near-black shades, autumn fades and metallic tones — just stunning. Each girl was trimmed in order: #5 → #4 → #3 → #2 → #1, revealing dense, chunky buds all the way from top to bottom. Not a single pop-corn bud among them — only rock-solid nugs, heavyweight champions in every sense. 📦 Cure Begins – Grove Bags & Glass Jars Once trimmed, the buds were tucked carefully into Grove Bags and glass jars, each stabilized at around 61% RH. The Grove Bags handle the microclimate beautifully, keeping humidity between 58–61%, perfect for preserving all that hard-earned quality. We’re now opening the jars daily, monitoring aroma and feel. This part of the process — the cure — is where the soul of the flower truly comes to life. ☀️ UV, Reds & The Perfect Run Part of what made this run so special was the precision in light spectrum. 40% whites, full reds, UV and IR, and the girls responded like royalty. The UV pushed trichome development to the max. The deep reds gave us thickness, color, and weight. All of it under ThinkGrow Model Ones powered through the Trolmaster ecosystem — everything syncing in harmony. This run was stable, lush, expressive — a grower’s dream. To my eyes, this was a perfect run. ⚖️ Final Yield: 1,302 Grams (1.3 kg) In a 4x4 tent — that’s just 1.2m x 1.2m for metric friends — we pulled in 1,302 grams of flower, not even counting the buds that were taken for filming, photos, or “quality control testing” along the way. 😉 Dense. Loud. Sticky. Resinous. 🌿 The Hidden Half: A Tribute to the Roots In every grow, there’s a part we don’t always see — a part that lives underground, quietly holding everything together. The roots. And this time, I wanted to honor them too. When we unpotted the plants after harvest, we were met with massive, dense root systems, completely filling the Autopot trays. These roots were vibrant, white and healthy, looking like noodles in a thick herbal soup — a true sign of vitality. The Autopots system, combined with the Aptus Holland Clean Program and Plagron Green Sensation, made sure they had the perfect environment to expand, absorb, and thrive. The PRO-MIX soil was the perfect foundation — light, fluffy, with excellent aeration. It all worked in harmony. After unpotting, I carefully washed every root system, removing all soil to prepare them for the next chapter of their story. Now, they’re hanging and drying — and will be left to cure for at least one month, possibly more, in a dry, dark, and well-ventilated space. But why keep the roots? Because cannabis roots hold ancient value — both medicinal and ritualistic. Though they don’t contain cannabinoids like THC or CBD, they are rich in alkaloids, triterpenoids, sterols, and other therapeutic compounds that can be anti-inflammatory, analgesic, antifungal, and calming. Medicinal Benefits of Cannabis Roots: • Friedelin – known for liver protection and anti-inflammatory effects • Pentacyclic triterpenoids – believed to support immune and anti-tumor functions • Alkaloids – some studies suggest pain-relief and muscle-soothing properties • High levels of fiber and tannins – excellent for digestive and skin applications 🍵 Root Medicine — Ways to Use Dried Roots: Once fully dried (they should snap like twigs, not bend), they can be gently crushed, powdered, or infused: 🌿 Cannabis Root Tea Soothing & Detoxifying • 1 tablespoon of dried, ground roots • 3 cups of filtered water • Simmer gently (do not boil) for 20–30 minutes • Add a bit of ginger or lemon for taste • Sip warm, especially good for menstrual discomfort, inflammation, and general relaxation 🍲 Healing Root Soup Base Brothy & Nourishing • Add a handful of dried roots into a veggie broth or bone broth • Simmer for 2+ hours • Strain before serving • This adds a subtle earthy tone and allows the healing properties to infuse your meal Topical Root Cream or Balm Great for sore muscles or irritated skin • Infuse roots in olive oil or coconut oil (low heat, 2–3 hours) • Strain and mix with beeswax to form a balm • Add essential oils like lavender or eucalyptus • Apply to temples, joints, or sore areas 🛁 Root Soak Bath Perfect for grounding and full-body relief • Bundle dried roots in muslin or cheesecloth • Steep in hot bathwater for 15 minutes before entering • Let the soak draw out toxins and ease tension ⸻ The roots are more than just the anchor of the plant. They are its memory, its foundation, its quiet miracle. By using them, we honor the entire lifecycle — nothing is wasted, and everything has a purpose. This part of the process is new for many growers, and I truly encourage anyone reading this to try saving and reusing the roots. Dry them, process them gently, and let them offer you one final gift. Much love to Aptus Holland, Plagron, Autopots, and PRO-MIX — this wouldn’t have been possible without their harmony working underground while the beauty bloomed above. 🌱 The Gift That Keeps Giving: Reusing the Soil As we say goodbye to one incredible season, we begin quietly preparing for the next. But not everything gets thrown away. In this garden, nothing is wasted. Just like the roots, the soil gets another life. After each harvest, I carefully remove the remaining roots and break up the soil. I inspect it, rejuvenate it with compost and beneficial microbes when needed, and most importantly, I repurpose it — giving it a second life in my outdoor veggie garden. Why do I do it? Because this soil has already done something extraordinary. It has supported life, held moisture, breathed air, balanced nutrients, and fed plants that became medicine. It’s not just dirt — it’s a living ecosystem. And to throw it away would be to ignore its potential. In my veggie garden, this recycled soil now nurtures cucumbers, tomatoes, courgettes, and so many other little miracles waiting to unfold. It’s a beautiful way of continuing the cycle, taking all the energy and intention that was once used to grow cannabis and transferring it into growing food. 🌞🍅🥒 🌾 The Benefits of Reusing Soil: • Sustainability — less waste, less environmental impact • Cost-effective — no need to constantly buy fresh medium • Soil memory — rich in organic material, microbial life, and structure • Nutrient potential — amended soil still holds value for many plants • A deeper connection — a way to honor the entire cycle of growth When we reuse our soil, we’re not just being resourceful — we’re believing in tomorrow. We’re trusting that what we’ve built can be rebuilt. That what has been used can become useful again. That from what seems like an ending, something new can always emerge. And maybe that’s the most powerful message of all in this journey: Planting is believing in tomorrow. 🌍🌱 Every seed in the ground is a little act of faith. So as this season comes to a close, the first tomatoes have been planted. The cucumbers are reaching for the sun. The courgettes are settling in. And the same soil that once gave us dense, resinous flowers is now feeding the vegetables that will grace the table. From harvest to hope — the cycle continues. And it’s beautiful. 🎉 The Final Touches Fun fact: • Trimmed on May 25 • Photo shoot on May 26 • This report: May 27 • Dry Bud Exclusive Photo Set: Coming soon Stay tuned — the next upload will be something special, just in time before the Eternity Grow Cup closes on May 31st. ⸻ 💚 Thank You To Zamnesia — your genetics were nothing short of extraordinary. To GrowDiaries, for hosting such a powerful space for community. To everyone following this journey, your support, love, and kind words fuel this project and keep the spirit alive. Let’s keep pushing boundaries, together. With roots deep in the earth and eyes on the stars — the next chapter begins soon. Much Growers love always, 🌱 Dog Doctor Official 🌱 Genetics - Runtz https://www.zamnesia.com/6000-zamnesia-seeds-runtz-feminized.html Nutrients - Plagron https://plagron.com/en/hobby - Aptus Holland https://aptus-holland.com/ Controls - Trol Master https://www.trolmaster.eu/ LED - https://www.futureofgrow.com/en LED - https://www.thinkgrowled.com Soil - https://www.promixgardening.com/en Germination - Cannakan https://cannakan.com/?srsltid=AfmBOopXr-inLXajXu3QFgKXCXXos4F1oEvScjMKIB5MR5dk8-GJ-F49 DOGDOCTOR 15% off Smoking Papers - https://ziggioriginal.com/ Terpene saver - https://grovebags.com/ As always thank you all for stopping by, for the love and for it all , this journey of mine wold just not be the same without you guys, the love and support is very much appreciloved and i fell honored with you all in my life With true love comes happiness Always believe in your self and always do things expecting nothing and with an open heart , be a giver and the universe will give back to you in ways you could not even imagine so As always, this is shared for educational purposes, aiming to spread understanding and appreciation for this plant. The journey with nature is one of discovery, creativity, and respect. Let’s celebrate it responsibly and continue to learn and grow together! Growers Love To you All 💚 #EternityGrowCup #RuntzHunt #GrowersLove #CannabisCommunity #AptusHolland #ProMixSoil #TrolMaster #Zamnesia #Plagron #ZiggiPapers #Grovebags

the week went we'll they grow by the day. I fed them sillica , Alaska fertilizer and molasses. there not showing many hair yet one is a little. I topped one of the plants the larger one. the gentics are top notice .i think there vigger is amazing. lots of structure should yield well

DAY 77: LAST WEEK :D So because it is probably the last week i got some BEAUTIFUL pictures! I made some pictures with white lights, with flash and with the flower lights on. The results are just... DAMN! She is doing great and as planned. She is using all her nutes and het leaves are fading out. I might have started the proces to soon because not all the trichomes have turned brown so she will probably be more sativa. Im so proud of myself, I'm really impressed how big and beautiful she turned out. What do you guys think?