Day 18: The canopy is developping nice and evenly. I wonder how much mire they will stretch. I think that ill do some defoliation at the beginning of week 4 Day 20: Today I did a big defoliation right before the third flowering week ends. It was a tough job reaching all the leaves in the back because I cant move the plants.😅 But we made it! Now the light can reach much further down the plants for better/bigger buds and better aeration.

Plants were watered on day 4 of week 9, as follows: Lucy: 1 gallon water, pH: 6.27, Height: 22 in. Herbert: 1.25 gallons water, pH: 5.77, Height: 24.5 in. ***Both fed nutrients - 5 ml/.5 gal BioVega (3% N, 1% Phosphate, 5% Soluble Potash), 7 ml/.5 gal BioBoost (1% Phosphate), and 1 ml/.5 gal BioRhizotonic (0.6% Soluble Potash) Plants were watered on day 5 of week 9, as follows: Thin Mint Sr: 1 gallon water, pH: 6.76, Height: 20 in. Thin Mint Jr: 1 gallon water, pH: 6.50, Height: 19.5 in Notes: Thin Mint Jr has nutrient burn and so was NOT fed nutrients today. Thin Mint Sr was fed nutrients at 50% strength 2.5 ml/.5 gal BioVega (3% N, 1% Phosphate, 5% Soluble Potash), 4 ml/.5 gal BioBoost (1% Phosphate), and 0.5 ml/.5 gal BioRhizotonic (0.6% Soluble Potash) (both plants still in nutrient distress - in process of recovery but have some new growth that is greener so improvement is being observed; slowly but surely!) ***Plants ideally would have been transitioned to the flowering phase this week, but due to nutrient deficiencies and nutrient burn on Thin Mint Jr., we are holding off on this transition for 1 week to give the plants a chance to recover from stress.

7/3/22 Stella is still moving along with the late bloom nutrient level this week. She’s getting close to the ripening stage, but still a week away. Today she received a full gallon of water mixed with the following nutrients: CALiMAGic - 2 ml FloraMicro - 3.8 ml FloraGro - 3.8 ml FloraBloom - 4.2 ml Floralicious Plus - 2 ml Liquid KoolBloom - 1 ml The pH was 6.6, and wasn’t adjusted. She took nearly the whole gallon before giving back some runoff, but it was sufficient. The runoff pH was 6.3. The tent was 80.5F, with a humidity of 60%. She is starting to fatten up and her branches are starting to get weighed down. I’ve already used all of my LST poles on other plants, so I’m going to have to figure out a way to make more space. She sits in the middle of the tent, surrounded by 4 of her daughters, and a smaller auto-period plant sitting on a box in front of her. My tent is FULL! I ran out of time today and didn’t get any new pics of her, so I added one that I didn’t use the other day. Take care, and happy growing everyone! If you’re in the USA 🇺🇸, July 4th💥, happy Independence Day!! 7/5/22 Well, it finally happened! Stella’s branches have gotten heavy enough to tip her over when she has space to herself. She is in the tent with several other large plants (her 4 daughters + 1), so she rests nestled amongst them, so she stands. When I took two of her daughters out of the tent to feed them, she tipped right over. To make a VERY long story short; I tied her upright with almost all of her branches bundled up loosely so that they all get light, then fastened her to the back of the tent. It’s going to make feeding her tricky, but she’ll be stable, and getting full light exposure. It also opens up more space in the tent. Not much, but some. I tied up her daughters branches too. Enough about that. She received a full gallon of water mixed with the same nutrient level as the last feeding noted above. The solution pH was 6.5, and wasn’t adjusted. She gave back plenty of runoff with a pH of 6.3. The tent was 83F, and humidity was 65%. That’s a little high to me, at least compared to my previous grows. However, my tent has never been this full before. I adjusted the fan to a higher height, and with all the plants tied up somewhat using LST methods, I’ve increased open space between them with hope of improving air flow. We’ll have to see how it goes. Happy growing everyone! 7/7/22 I’m just going to write the basics today. Stella is still triced up nicely in the back of the tent so that she doesn’t fall over because of the weight of her own branches. Her buds are continuing to fatten up, and she looks lovely! Orange hairs all through her buds! Yummy!! She’s still getting the late bloom nutrients till next week when we actually begin the ripening stage. Today she took a gallon of the following: CALiMAGic - 2 ml FloraMicro - 3.8 ml FloraGro - 3.8 ml FloraBloom - 4.2 ml Floralicious Plus - 2 ml Liquid KoolBloom - 1 ml The pH was 6.6. I thought of adjusting it, but decided that it was good enough. She gave back plenty of runoff with a pH of 6.3. The temp was 83.3F, with a humidity of 54%. I didn’t take any pictures of her today. I was running between 2 rooms, and feeding other plants and just forgot. 🤷‍♂️ I’ll get pics later. Happy growing everyone!

Please like and follow my diary and check out my others!! Would appreciate the support🙏 Ok guys week 4 starting now and these girls have gotten all bushy and lushy!! I am just now setting up and starting to play around with time lapses lol here are my tester videos to start. Any pointers and tips would be greatly appreciated👏 Soo the girls are doing great done a little lst and neem oil applied last night for pest prevention I wanted to bend down their main stems and do a little hst but unfortunately their main stemsare waaaay to thick for it, I'll add some pics later Ok and as for feeding we are following the advanced nutrients feeding schedule I have measured EC and PPM this time but i need to go find my notes will add it into this weeks diary *update* 1.5l water per plant EC 1.3 PPM 650 ............. Ok that's it for now I've got another time lapse running so I'll add that one later today too!

Hello, Using low stress clips but ran out. Tied down in a few spots. Missed defoliation on day 1 but got it day 4. Will get again on day 21. Was having overheat issues. Added a simple ground fan ducted in through a box. Have a dog and don’t want hairs getting in. Also added a 2nd exhaust with a 2nd carb filter. Solved overheating and humidity rise issues. Overall happy I feel on my first grow!

Still going lol. Still not too many amber, but I cut down one of the smaller side growths to dry and test. Keeping up with just water, probably could have added nutes for quite a bit longer, but oh well next time haha. Couple buds moved onto a light bulb and burned pretty badly. Be careful out there!

The plants react well to the switch to 12/12 and continue to stretch and fill out their grow space. They love the Advanced Nutrients feeding schedule and have a healthy green color all over. The first signs of flowering (=white hairs) start to appear and both plants are female (as expected from feminized seeds). Barbarian (=AK-47 x Barbara Bud) plant #2 is appr. 12 cm taller than plant #1 at this time.

Well, the photo period plants are looking great now, but the 2 older BlackBerry's still look like they are struggling. The newer BlackBerry seedling looks fine. We'll see what happens over the next few weeks. The Seedsman Cream & Cheese CBD and DinaFem Critical+ are looking the best overall IMO. I'll be topping and cutting clones in another week or two. I plan on getting the 2nd of 3 tents set up this weekend.👍

nice strain with a rich terpene profile! sweet, gelato like, hard hitting smoke! sadly my phenos had no banana taste but still very nice

I might check out some other indica dom strains these guys have to offer. I was pleasantly surprised with this strain. These plants grow fast and tall. Responds very good to topping and lst. Great to grow, great to smoke.

Girls have settled into summer camp nicely. Worries about not taking the transplant diminish more each day and I am gaining more confidence in strong roots with each passing day as well. I had to build a supplemental lighting system for the greenhouse. Here at home we are experiencing a wetter than usual summer so far and with that brings clouds. So I needed to do something. So I built a new greenhouse light. It cranks out some light. Currently at canopy I’m measuring around 600 PPFD. Plants are loving it. All three plants sexed and all are females. Didn’t think otherwise. So the formula 707 is performing better than expected. Water retention is crazy. Watered the plants on Sunday with a gallon each , today is Thursday and no water needed. Going to try and get to Sunday for a whole week between watering. *** update, added a short video from 7am this morning. The girls really do like the homemade light. *** update, aggravated just lost an hours worth of data. I’ll come back in a while and do it again. Fu.k *** update, Monday evening 7/21/25 quite a bit to go over so let me go take a toke and we’ll get things started. Hang on. Ok. Girls had a great weekend. The weather was warm with more sunshine than was predicted. All systems are now a go! All three have entered stretch and fear larger than normal plants are in my future. Knowing the nutrients were ready and available went ahead and watered them even though the formula 707 could have taken them a couple of days longer before requiring water. Each plant was watered Sunday with 2 gallons of silica amended, 5 ml per gallon Emerald Harvest sturdy stalk. Now bring on those massive colas. Each plant is showing its own unique characteristics. The 91 Grapes is tall and massive. The Vanilla Fizz is a bush and I think will flower first. The Harvey Wallbanger has yet to produce a leaf that has more than five points, not one, seven point leaf yet. Started doing a little LST today and will try to do some each day to stay caught up on it and the trimming. Gave the pots a thorough soaking on Sunday and don’t anticipate having to water them again until Sunday. If I do have to water them again before then that means I have monster plants that are thirsty.

Strech is over … take a lot of leafs of …

Switching over to Jack's finish for the last leg of this grow. Despite the cold they have held up very well. May strips and leaves to make things a little easier on myself in the next couple weeks in addition to letting more light penetrate into the canopy. Thinking another week or so?

OSS Cheese XXL ╰⊰🔹Started 03.10.24🔹╰⊰ 🌾 - Popped The Seeds On 03.10.24 🌞 - Environment - 80F / 65% RH 🌾 - Training - Defoliating the buds as needed, a little at a time; they should be pretty clean by the time harvest comes. ⚱️ - 2-Gallon 📊6.2 PH 💧 - Feeding - Using Horti Late Bloom 0-24-26, Cal 12-0-0 🌞 - Mars Hydro FC-4800 🕷️ - IPM - CannControl from Mammoth and Mosquito Bits ╰⊰🔹WEEKLY REPORT🔹╰⊰ 📝 Notes - This ends the two weeks of using the High Fortified P&K of the Horti-Late Bloom 0-24-26; you will be watering with H20 PHed to 6.2; when growing this strain, you are going to want to pull the branches down so buds at the nodes have plenty of airflow, stay on top of the defoliation, as this cultivar appears to be a leafy one, with that said these girls are worth growing the terpenes are strong with a foul citrus, definitely a likable skunk smell! 🗓️06.08.24 Feeding 2x Dail with Horti Cal and Horti Late Bloom 🗓️06.09.24 Feeding 2x Dail with Horti Cal and Horti Late Bloom 🗓️06.10.24 Feeding 2x Dail with Horti Cal and Horti Late Bloom 🗓️06.11.24 Feeding 2x Dail with Horti Cal and Horti Late Bloom 🗓️06.12.24 Feeding 2x Dail with Horti Cal and Horti Late Bloom 🗓️06.13.24 Feeding 2x Dail with Horti Cal and Horti Late Bloom 🗓️06.14.24 Feeding 2x Dail with Horti Cal and Horti Late Bloom 📝Fertigation injects fertilizers into an irrigation system to supply dissolved nutrients and water to crops. ╰⊰🔹STRAIN INFO🔹⊱╮ Cheese XXL cannabis seeds are a unique blend of Afghan Kush x Super Skunk, producing the most pungent dank weed. Cheese XXL is the third commercially available edition released by Original Sensible using and developing these Afghan and Skunk genetics. The first release of these genetics was their Skunk Afghani. The second improved version was Stinkin' Bishop, which had an enhanced and more potent THC content and was more intense in terms of smell. The third and improved release on a similar theme is this Cheese XXL, which has a similar THC content but an enhanced heavier yield. The smoke is incredible, with an outstanding flavor of pungent skunk and spicy, extra strong mature cheese created by the dominant terpene myrcene with its earthy solid scent accompanied by caryophyllene and pinene, which combine to create a peppery acrid cheesy odor. THC levels are exceptionally high in this Cheese strain, and the effect is well-balanced, developing mental and body relaxation with a remarkable alleviation of stress and depression. The intense solid aroma starts early in the flowering period; if you're growing Cheese XXL indoors, you'll need plenty of ventilation to disperse these babies' stinky "road kill" aroma! Cheese XXL is a cheese strain suited to indoor setups and thrives outdoors well. These feminized marijuana seeds are incredibly resistant to mold and disease and produce a substantial harvest that professional and amateur growers can quickly achieve. These Cheese weed seeds are outstanding. Break open the buds ready for use, and you'll see why the stench will make your eyes water! Cheese XXL from Original Sensible Seeds is a great choice to break into the commercial market of growing cannabis, so if you're looking to buy something special with extreme yield, potency, and flavor, Cheese XXL cannabis seeds are simply the best choice.

Day 43 12/06/2021- Beginning of week five of flower. She should be done soon, she will also get her final feeding soon. Day 45 12/08/2021- She got her final top dress today from here on out she is on her own all I will do is water with pain water PH to 6.2-6.8 when dry. Day 47 12/10/2021- She is coming along nicely. Very frosty wish she wasn't a auto so I could of clone her for sure. Today she got a nice treat as it rain in my hometown and that's the water she got. Hoping she is ready by the end of the year. I know she looks funny but she was never topped either. Day 49 12/12/2021- End of the week, nothing new.

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Week 3. This is where the fun begins. The smell is amazing. The stretch is crazy and the stems are stiff like bamboo. There's no loss in terps. They're actually getting a lot stronger!!

He who stops is lost, as an old saying goes I don't know exactly what the origins are, so here's a new Zamnesia season. We are in the middle of winter and despite growing in an area that isn't the warmest in Europe, it's really cold now. It's 16-18 degrees Celsius in the house and we need to bring the temperature of the propagator growbox between 20 and 25 degrees Celsius. So we first placed a layer of those 1 cm thick "rubberized" floors that are used for gyms, they are easily found on Amazon and are very useful for insulation. Then a heated resistance mat and then the closed propagator on top. Inside with our seedlings and the light on at minimum 20% we reached 24 degrees, not bad in fact the germination is proceeding very well. 100% opening of the seeds in water and almost all of them are opening in our biodegradable peat pots. ----- Our Green Cure F1 Hybrid Auto are growing fast at the time of the photos one was born now it seems that the second one is coming out. We need some CBD in our diet, we overdo it a bit with THC we use it to not go too crazy and not have the symptoms of excessive use of THC. We really like the genetic line and the fact that they are f1, let's go! It is a CBD Sativa Dominant strain that will probably be sent to our friends at AWC for the CBD category, let's see how it comes out... WARNING: Placenta Problems ---- ALWAYS look very carefully at the seedlings, if the seed or the placenta prevent the opening of the cotyledon leaves the plant dies after a while. Remove it delicately as if it were a condom or almost. I apologize for the example but it gives the idea, remove slowly and delicately please. WARNING: If you choose biodegradable pots, choose the largest ones possible and not paper/cardboard ones, they are made of peat which is the main component of most of the soils we use. If you want to avoid transmitting vibrations to your neighbors, I recommend installing one of these gym floors under your growboxes, I did it and I also feel safer not to disturb. They are easily found on Amazon in different thicknesses, I took a gym model that is assembled like a puzzle, they are also found in children's shops, they are those floors that are assembled to make children play safely, or to train and to avoid vibrations from equipment or of any kind. Everything will be grown with Plagron Pro Mix with 100% fertilizers, let's start with Power Roots 1 Ml/l Plagron fertilizers are available on Zamnesia in convenient Pack formats for all growing styles. I used this one with a simple search you can find the other products. ---- https://www.zamnesia.io/en/12119-plagron-top-grow-box-100-natural.html Try a seed of this strain that drives us crazy... ---- https://www.zamnesia.io/en/10672-zamnesia-seeds-green-cure-cbd-f1-automatic.html Zamnesia Description // Zamnesia's breeding team has harnessed F1 genetics to bring you Green Cure CBD F1 Automatic. This autoflowering cultivar is easy to grow, accessible and reliable for all levels of experience. Ready in just 11 weeks, growers can expect impressive yields of tasty buds with a clear-headed effect that's ideal for meditative moments. Growbox and Air System - Secret Jardin DS120w + fans + Exhaust fans and filters DF16 kit Light - Viparspectra P2000 https://www.viparspectra.com/products/viparspectra%C2%AE-2024-updated-p2000-200w-led-grow-light-with-daisy-chain-function ---- www.zamnesia.com

6/15. Glad I listened to my intuition and held off watering. IT Rained andctheb again last night. Plants seem to be doingvreal well. Slight burn on lower leaves where it was before from being in the garage and I found on spot that LOOKED like it could've been caused by a pillar but it's right on a burn. I sefoliated one leaf. This is minor stuff. Next watering I'll be adding silica. I'm not giving nutes until the plants tell the need them. The 3 gallon ones may receive nutes first as they'll run out. I'll update as I progress. Went back over at 8:30. It's just overcast with showers. Plants seemed to like it. They all look good. Noticed a chunk out of a leaf and a POSSIBLE pillar spot. I'm going to have to get the BT out and and give the girls an application. I'm waiting until they settle in a bit more though. I need to start LST as well AND the light dep. Unfortunately "life" has made things difficult. I'll get back over there today though and I'll start the light dep. Kinda makes me wonder though. The 1pth planet I wanted to light deo is tge same size as the others in the much bigger containers. The thought came that maybe I should just hold on to them as extras in case something happens. I also am going to start silica next watering but it will be a few weeks before any nutes are given. UPDATE: WENT BACK OVER AT FIVE AND TOOK ACSHOT TON OF PICTURES. IM TRYING TO UOLOAD NOW. THINGS ARE POPPING OFF AND IM GETTING A NICE SWEET SKUNKY ODOR. WHILE I WASCTHERE WE GOT A QUICK SHOWER. DIDNT LAST MORE THAN TEN MINUTES BUT IT RAINED HARD. I FOUND A TEMPORARY SPOT TO LIGHT DEP THE TWO PURPLE PUNCH AND THE ONE TENTH PLANET. I DONT SEE ANY LIGHT LEALS AND ITS SURE AS HELL DARKER THAN IT IS AT NIGHT. I'LL SEE HOW IT GOES LEQVING THE COVER ON ALL NIGHT. IF IT DOESNT WORK I MAY JEED TO ADD A FAN OR CHANCECTHE SPACE. I ALMOST DIDNT WANT TO DO THIS AS THE 10TH PLANET IS KEEPING PACE WITH ITS SISTERS, DESPITE THE SMALLER POT. OH WELL I WANT TO GIVE IT A SHOT AND I DONT WANT MY CAGE OVER CROWDED. I'M LOOKONG TO DO A 6:30 TO 6:30 SCHEDULE. 6/16 First night of light dep for the three little ones. I won't be able to call them that soon. I'm currently trying to upload a video. My grow buddy mentioned the droopiness of a couple of my plants in this video and how I hadn't been watering. This kinda scared me so I ran over and checked the too few inches on the two that had a little droop and came out dry. I had some water already phed ready to go (I'm hoping that the ph doesn't change if it's stored a day or two) and used the gallon to moisten the dry topsoil. Looking back over my diary we have had nothing but rain. I then tried the "lift the pot method" and came to the conclusion that these bags were indeed still holding moisture. I assumed they would be considering the thunderstorms we've had. I held off on fullt watering because the weather said the next dry day is going to be Monday. Today is Friday so thats two solid days of rain. Three if you count today through the night. I concentrated my watering of the one gallon on the couple plants that appeared to droop. If it doesn't rain like they say it will I will need to water. I need to set up a decent watering schedule but I need it to hold off raining long enough to do so. UPDATE: I WENT BACK OVER AND PUT THE 3 GALS IN FOR BED AND CHECKED OUT THE REST OF THE GARDEN. I WATERED THE 3 GAL GIRLS A LITTLE MORE SINCE THEY WONT BE OUTSIDE. THE BIT OF WATER I GAVE SEEMED TO HELP LIFT SOME OF THE GIRLS. AT LEAST I THINK IT DID. THE RAIN SHOULDVE COME ALREADY. I WOULDVE WATERED MORE HAD THE BAGS NOT BEEN SO HEAVY. 6/17 Rained all night which is good. Brought the three transplants out but left them under the overhang so they. Dont get soaked. So far light depoing is going good. Well its only been two nights but we'll see. I'll update as I go. Not feeling well today. Went back over and checked on the plants and did a video. Probably won't get uploaded until tomorrow. I'm giving it a shot. It's raining in good shape. Plants looked fine when I was there. I need to get my supports and my trellis in place. Video won't upload. No suprise. I'll get it tomorrow. 6/18 Uploaded videos if they fuck up from me editing I'm gonna be pissed. Anyway it's still pouring with high winds. I added a couple supports where it looked like it needed it. I need to put my trellis up. I've been able to keep up with the light dep and those plants haven't been used and abused. They stay in the building facing the sun when the weather is this bad. I think they're looking great. I may start a new diary just for them. Sun came out around four. Trying to upload a couple videos but doesn't look like it's going to happen. Tucked the three little ones in at six. It had stopped raining and the wind died down some. If adverse conditions create good plants then I'm on the way to a great harvest. Minor bleaching and burns on a few lower fan leaves and some wrinkling on some from wind burn other than that plants seem to be acclimated. Did a video but will have to wait until tomorrow to upload 6/19 It's not raining! We got four inches this past storm lol. Having the bags raised on pollens I believe has greatly helped. As did the high winds that help dry the soil in the bag. Had to add a few temporary supports. Light dep is going good. Adjusted amd found a better spot. I'm considering getting "pool noodles" or some other thing like a Hulu hoops or pvc pipe and making either a frame on the roof for the entire cage or on top of each individual plants posts so I could roll clear plastic over it when it rains. I'm thinking about later on in the fall when this could really help. I found a roll of plastic. Also thought about putting that up on the back wall but I didn't. What I'm doing right now is working. I just need to keep up with it. I also need a solid watering schedule to stick too. It's hard when each plants needs are different. Oh well. I'm just happy to be growing again. I pray to the cannabis gods and the Lord above himself that I'm not plagued with the problems of last year. 6/20. I'm sick as fuck but I got the little girls out in the sun. Light dep is going good. Plants look great. I'll update when I feel better and if I do anything. Still feel like shit. Luckily I looked up just in time to get to the grow and put the little ones to bed. They were thirsty (especially the bushy 10th planet so I gave them about 3/4 of a gallon of water. Got lots of run off from 10th planet. Didn't notice as much from the others but I was hurrying. I'll upload later. Still sick. 6/21 Plants seem to be doing great. I removed some lower growth on a few just to see how they respond. I'm going to do some defoliation down low and I want to see how the plants respond. I'm planning my first full watering Thursday as we have a real good stretch of weather after that. Grow bags are still heavy as hell so they have sufficient water. I'll be adding silica nextcl watering. Not time for nutes but I think it would be okay to start the silica and in another week I might start small doses of nutes. The light dep on the little girls is go8ng great! It's cool I'll get to sample some of these strains before fall. I'll update after I do something. Tucked the girls in at 6. I might need to think about transplanting that 10th planet in the 3 gallon. I watered until runoff yesterday and it's light as hell today. Plus I fimked it and it's bushy as hell. I've Bern turning it si it gets all angles of the sun. I have a bag of 707 left and a 5 gallon bucket with holes drilled all over it like an air pot and a ten gallon grow bag. This will take some thought. Hot af today. I wad able to lift the grow bags so I decided tomorrow will be the girls first real watering. I think I'll be adding silica and possibly kelp me kelp you due to the heat stress I've been noticing. Nothing bad just a few tacoed leaves. I've had several people that have seen my grow in person tell me that this is by far the healthiest (not biggest I've had bigger) but by farcthe healthies5 crop I've grown. They believe I'll have my best year ever this year. I hope they are right. Vid won't be uploaded until tomorrow. 6/22 WATERED TODAY. I'm still a little gun shy with watering. That fusarium last year pretty much traumatized me. I left the container plants alone. I gave them a little water but not enough to do much. I used a pump sprayer on a mist setting and went one by one and back around gently watering the entire medium. This took forever and I'll be finding a different way to water. I hope this was enough water. I'll check later on and if they look like they want more I give it to them. I started LST on the light dep 10th planet and tucked some branches of a another under the tomato cage. I had missed that earlier. I also went around and cleaned up the bottoms on most. Getting rid of things that will amount to nothing. I noticed what looked like thrip damage on ONE leaf on ONE plant. I also saw a chunk missing from a grasshopper bite and a finger of a fan leaf petiol was broken so I'm going to need to get my ipm up and running. I'm unsure whether I'll be using chemicals or predators. Probably BT and spinosad. That's what I've had the best luck with. I also noticed bottom leaves dying off on the bottom of a couple plants. It was where the burns were though so I'm almost 100% its just related to the light burns they got when i first put them up. I'll be updating the diary as I do more stuff.