Zkittlez/The Original Z (TerpHogz Cut)
Moin, Damit ist die (gezwungene) letzte Vegi Woche auch ohne Zwischenfall vorbeigegangen. Die Zkittlez macht sind bisher wirklich gut, klar erkennbar ist aber auch schon jetzt das es wirklich kein Ertragmonster werden wird. Große Internodienabstände, lichtes Blattwerk, selbst für einen Steckling dünne Triebe. Mittlerweile habe ich auch schon mal ein Scrognetz im Zelt eingebaut um den Stretch etwas entgegenzuwirken sonst wächst sie mir sehr wahrscheinlich durch die Zelt Decke. Generell wird der relativ hohe EC gut vertragen und als einziges Anzeichen kann ich eine Blätter mit sehr leichten Lichtstress (leicht aufgewickelte Zacken). Jetzt bin ich auf die nächstes Wochen mehr als gespannt und hoffe die Reise lohnt sich am Ende. Alles für die Terps! 😄🍃 Hey, The (forced) final veggie week has come and gone without a hitch. The Zkittlez plants are doing really well so far, but it’s already clear that this isn’t going to be a high-yield monster. Wide internode spacing, sparse foliage, and shoots that are thin even for a cutting. I’ve also set up a SCROG net in the tent to help curb the stretching a bit otherwise, it’ll most likely grow right through the tent ceiling. Overall, the plants are handling the relatively high EC well, and the only sign of stress I can see is a leaf with very mild light stress (slightly curled tips). Now I’m really looking forward to the coming weeks and hope the journey will be worth it in the end. All for the terps! 😄🍃
Apple Fritter Auto (RQS)
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Last week of the apple fritter.. As Im writing this I already harvested it. Ill report back in 2 weeks after the drying and before the curing. This was an amazing journey that its not yet finished. Drying and curing is very important and ill be doing the following: Drying Environment: - Temperature: Maintain between 18-22°C (65-72°F). This prevents terpenes from degrading while slowing the drying process. - Humidity: Aim for 50-60% relative humidity to avoid mold and overly crispy buds. - Airflow: Use a small fan to keep air circulating, but don’t let it blow directly on the buds to avoid uneven drying. - Darkness: Keep the tent as dark as possible. Light can degrade cannabinoids like THC. - Timeframe: Drying typically takes 7-14 days. Stems should snap (not bend) when drying is complete. Curing: - Jar Storage: Once the buds are dry, ill trim them again properly - Humidity Packs: Using Boveda packs (58-62%) to maintain proper curing humidity inside jars. - Burping: For the first 2 weeks, open jars for 10-15 minutes daily to release excess moisture and allow fresh air in. Afterward, reduce burping to once a week for long-term storage. - Curing Time: At least 2 weeks minimum.. Ill comeback soon with final dry weight. Wet was 400g. Keep up the good work galera 💜
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gangbuds x ripper seeds SourRipper
28/12/20. inicio de semana, 75 cm de altura hoy se aplico un nutriente foliar marca mexicana Rootz kelper son un extracto algas y azucarez y se aplico por riego giga grow. este contiene guano de murcielago todo organico. 01/01/21. hoy se aplico un nutriente foliar marca mexicana Rootz💪 kelper son un extracto algas y azucarez y se aplico por riego giga grow. este contiene guano de murcielago 03/01/21. cierre de semana con 80 cm de altura
Who let the dogs out!?
Heeey all! Sorry for the huge amount of photos but this week was crazy. So many things happened and my lack of knowledge clearly showed up. I ended stressing one of my plants for no reason! 😱 At the start of the week everything was normal until I noticed that one of Roko's buds looked weird. It seemed to be too dry and orange for my tastes and I didn't know what it was. Obviously I started to ask around and I got so many mixed messages haha. Some people said it was nothing and I should not worry about it and others said they were 100% sure it was botrytis or budrot... aaaaaaaand I got paranoid lol. 😵😨 At first I tried to keep calm and ignore it for one day but the next one the bud looked even worse and that's when I feared the worst. What if it's really budrot? In general the values I write in here are approximates or an average of the week.. and usually my tent never goes over 60% of RH (in the dark it stays between 50% to 60% when I water them and on some rare occasions it reaches 65%). This time, after I checked the thermometer it said "75% of RH" but I did not know if it was during their sleep time or maybe some time after the lights went on) so once again I feared the worst! What if the plants stayed all the night with that amount of RH? Was that enough time for them to develop budrot? What if it's still nothing? Yikes. 😭 I had to do something and I did, I wasn't going to risk everything! I started removing the worst looking leaf to see if there was anything mushy or ugly between it and the pistils but I didn't see anything (maybe I was safe and that was something else? Or maybe the budrot was even deeper and I could not see it?) After reading I realized that the best idea was to cut the bud in half and then slice it to "see" if there was anything inside... so I did it and absolutely nothing showed up 😖! Those were good news! Sadly tho the poor plant had to go thru some stress after cutting that bud in half (at least from what I saw the insides were tightly packed and the photos showed some really cool stuff) The rest of the week was uneventful (compared to what I feared haha) and some leaves started to change even more in color (I love it). I think I'll start with the flush next week or the one after that one. There are some amber trichomes...! Thanks all for checking my diary! Hopefully you'll all find the pictures interesting! PD: None of the plants have seeds in them, even when one of the sliced buds seemed to be making them!
GrOCD - Jack 47 XL Auto Hydro
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pH was important as expected and a bit of light burn later on in the grow but ultimately it was pretty smooth sailing. I used a very common nutrient (GHE) and not overly strong. Buds were thick, dense, and moderately pine smelling. The plant did not grow excessively tall thanks to LST, and the LST did not seem to have any ill effects at all. Foliage was thick, and I let it go for a very long time before doing any sort of defoliation. Even then it was modest and just to get light to the lower colas. Still in trimming mode and will continue to update :) Also, other plants in the house got spider mites. Not this one. Could have been that it was in hydro and others weren't but hard to say.
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Barney's 2020 mainlining
Pretty solid start for this week, all the plants took just one day to recover from the last session of training and they are showing new vigorous growth already. 1st day fed them with my usual secret mix of organic good stuff Day 32, 4th day of week 5. Babies recover at max speed so I can continue to top and train them to achieve the wanted structure. They already show signs of flowering hormones telling me that when I want to flip, they are ready. Day 35, last defoliation of the week and I think also I will do just another defoliation right before flippin to flower
Red Hot Cookies. Sweetseeds
Bueno familia ya finalizamos, estas red hot cookies son una cepa bestial. La verdad que el secado muy bien 7 días en Malla y a los botes, 45% humedad y 23 grados es la temperatura ambiental que han tenido en el secado. 4 plantas que se cultivaron en un armario de 1.20 pero estos ejemplares solo ocuparon 80x80. Así que ya está cultivada esta gran variedad que es novedad este 2020, americana de la familia Cookies, la Tropicanna Cookies (Girl Scout Cookies x Tangie) con un porcentaje de thc entre los 17/25%, una bomba. Que decir de Agrobeta, lo peta 💪 en cuanto a nutrientes. Un saludo y buenos humos.
#CheckPointGrow #3 by Zamnesia Seeds
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Day 50. Girls are running fine. Found some strange black curled leaves, had to apply Leaf Coat just in case. Was stupid enough to spray already flowering auto tent, all pistils went dark and girls look like shit. I know it doesn't influence final result but its a shock and all photos will look like shit from now on .... So here i did it purely for not doing later ... ;)) Blue dreams are biggest plants, Kalini Asias and Runtz end up somewhere the same, but smaller than BD. Silica, water, feed. Thats the plan for this week. Day 53. Girls got Silica Acid yesterday and it was too early ;))) i have to move lights, but i don't want to induce more run, inner spacing is enormous on couple last nods ... Better to use in early veg and after stretch ;))) Video shows it all ... Day 53. Evening. They just run to the sky, some girls are rubing LED's ;))) If i raise lights today - ill have to repeat it tomorrow, still almost 2 weeks of stretch left ... will go "slow burn" way ;)))) Happy Growing !
Guava Sundae - Indoor Grow
Wie auch bei der guava runtz, Zucker Zucker Zucker! Ebenfalls sieht es hier langsam so aus als würde sich der Stretch dem Ende neigen. Die guava sunday ist eindeutig luftiger und hat viel viel mehr kleinere untere Triebe im Gegensatz zu der runtz. Das das wird mir auch beim entlauben und lollipoppen sehr viel Arbeit bescheren aber die Arbeit wird sich lohnen. Faszinierend ist aber dass die beiden total unterschiedlich im TerpenProfil sind. Die runtz kommt eindeutig stark fruchtig daher mit subtilen untern Tönen. Während hier die sunday mit einem sehr cremig erdigen Profil daherkommt und er mit subtilen Reifen guava untertönen unterlegt. Vielleicht sogar leicht skunkig? Ich bin auf die Ernte und auf die erste Verkostung gespannt bei dieser Unterschiedlichkeit schon allein vom Profil her. 🤤
Fastbuds - GG4 Sherbet FF
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Week 15 for Gigi! 7th week of flowering. Gigi is ready for flush! I've flushed her with 60 liters of 6.0 ph'd water in combination with Final Solution. Now we wait a week at 40%rh 10 hours of light and high ventilation with the last two days of dark and then we're ready for harvest! Can't wait!😁 See you in a month for the full harvest and smoke report guys, I'm planning a good quality video for this diary 📸
Frostbanger Auto ( 2502 tester)
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Frostbanger Plants 1-6 Week 8 May 18– 24 FLOWER 4 Nutrients : GH Micro 25 ml GH Gro 10 ml GH Bloom 30ml CalMag 30 ml Recharge 10ml Green sensation 16.5ml Power buds 7.5 ml 5/17 PH 6.3, PPM 1130, temp 71 1ltr each 5/18 PH 6.67, PPM 935, temp 68.5 1 ltr each 5/20 PH 6.67, PPM 1330, temp 68.5 2 ltr each 5/21 PH 6.66, PPM 984, temp 69 1 ltr each videos & pics 5/17 Defoliation of yellowing leaves, feed, pics As I mentioned last week, I must monitor and control the tent environment manually. For the past month, the humidifier has been an issue putting out way too much humidity; often leaving water in the bottom of the tent. In addition, the temperatures are also out of control. I added an AC last week to keep the temperature below 80. I finally determined the exhaust vent is also broken and has been for some time. AC Infinity does not extend the warranty to the replacement parts. I guess that makes sense since they would be in a state of perpetual free replacements. I bought a new one from Amazon that came with a new controller which is different from the controller 69 currently using. I decided that while it is very inconvenient and inefficient to monitor the tent through the day, I would rather finish this Frostbanger run without introducing a new unknown variable. I will continue using 3 circulating fans, the 4” exhaust vent from my 3x3. I have the AC pushing air in and the exhaust pulling air out. This creates a neutral pressure tent environment-neither positive nor negative. It looks like growth has stopped and plant height has been reached. Now is the time for buds to fatten and frost up. All 6 of them are short remaining less than 3 ft. They range from 15 to 31 inches. #4, 5 &6 are showing some fade, particularly #4. Upon opening the tent, a melon smell comes off the buds if I get close, and more stickiness was observed during the process of defoliation. They are living up to the new strain’s name. #5 is the frostiest followed by #2. Wow week 3 of flower and that much frost already. Before FastBuds announced the strain name and characteristics, I was disappointed that FBA2502 could be an indica sleepy strain but the universe provides what you need at the time. The new strain profile indicates a whopping 29%THC with mainly sativa uplifting, euphoric, social effects with sweet fruity flavors which I love and enjoy. In addition, I recently bought a dap press and this strain is frosty and resinous. She will be great to press for live rosin. FBA2502 is FROSTBANGER. Meet Frostbanger Auto, an autoflowering and Indica-leaning hybrid packing a staggeringly high THC content averaging 29%, making this one of the most potent strains on the market. It was created by Fast Buds through crossbreeding Gorilla Glue and Chemdawg, two equally iconic strains. Growers must know that these difficult-to-grow plants will pose specific challenges in terms of environmental control and nutrition, making them best suited for cultivators with some experience under their belt. The flowering cycle is short, averaging only 50 days, and yields are usually around 300g/m². The Frostbanger Auto flavor and aroma are both mouthwatering with a delightful combination of sweet, fruity, and flowery notes. The high is mainly Sativa-driven with uplifting and happiness-inducing effects that lead to euphoria and a general sense of well-being. You might feel sociable and talkative, but too spacey to say something. Following this surge of energy comes a deepening sense of relaxation, leaving you sedated and completely at ease with the world. Due to its potency and these long-lasting effects, medical patients hail Frostbanger Auto for treating chronic pain, stress, and even depression. Measurements: #1 15” #2 20” #3 17” #4 30” #5 31” #6 24” Your likes and comments are appreciated. Thanks for stopping by. Growers love 💚🌿 💫Natrona💫
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K.onec 4 týdne kvetení holka vypadá celkem hezky jen mě štvou slabé stonky které do budoucna budou těžce nést váhu pupenů zatím žádné problémy
Elle porte la culotte!
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Hello there fellow Gardener! This week El patron fan leaves on some of stems are drying up fast, some are alright some are not, especially those straight under leds, I think it is a root problem in some part of container where there is less moisture or too much perhaps? El patron is fussy but still a tough cookie, lovely little plumpy buds swelling up slowly slowly, she smells skunky and spicy, no fruity smell at all. I hope she can retain some green leaves on those who are poorly... Well we will see... Added last sprinkling of guano bat on top of soil and raked in. No water. Still she has many still viable fan leaves on other healthier stems and looks very pretty and different. That is it for this week, I think 2 more weeks or so to go... I hope all goes well until then ❤️😉
Purple Lemonade - FF
10/29: flowing on autopilot At this point. I did not have to do anything with them this week. They have recovered from that terrible stress from a massive defoliation. The smell is not very strong, but of you get close to the buds, they smell pretty bad honestly. Lol. Its a weird smell. Bot sure how to describe it. Kinda like a bitter chemical. Hopefully that is not the end result of the terps. I am very disappointed now that i did not get one of the really purple phenos. The clones are doing great and have been potted in 1 gallon pots. Not sure i end up keeping any of them now that i know i do t have the plant that i wanted and i al not convinced that i will even like any of these yet.
Schokoladendampf 🍫💨​
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Seid herzlich Willkommen zu meinem Bericht der Milky Way F1 Automatik von Royal Queen Seeds, einer Kreuzung von Blue Mammoth, Blue Dream, Sin Tra Bajo Auto und Ruderalis. Ich hatte die Milky Way als Hybriden in meiner Samenbank eingetragen und wegen des Schokoladengeschmacks in diesen Run aufgenommen. Das stimmt so allerdings nicht. Sie ist sogar eine 80% Indica, das erfährt man aber erst, wenn man das Video über diesen Strain ansieht. Dann wird die halt erst zum Abend gedampft. Tag 36: Die Milky Way F1 Auto von Royal Queen Seeds wächst wie ein Schirm, die Seitentriebe schwingen weit hoch. Eine wunderschöne, kompakte Pflanze. Tag 38: Die regelmässige Bewässerung kann momentan noch nicht stärker eingestellt werden, weil noch Nachzügler versorgt werden müssen, die sollen nicht ersaufen. Anyway, Das Wasser reicht ihr nicht mehr aus. Sie bekommt zusätzlich 2x 250ml zimmerwarmes Brunnenwasser aus der Gieskanne. Die Blüte kommt etwas langsamer in die Gänge. Schön, dass du dir mein Diarie ansiehst. Schau wieder rein, ich freu mich drüber 👋😎
Gorilla 🦍 melon 🍈
Well very good looking too very happy and healthy so far so good i think one more week and goes to flower lets see 🏝️
Herbst Grow 2026
Blüte Tag 7 Ich habe auf Hesi Bloom Dünger umgestellt und beim ersten Mal gießen auch Hesi Boost dazu gegeben. Cheese und MandarineZ bekommen alle 2 Tage 0,5L und Gorilla Girl alle 2-3 Tage. Cheese: weiterhin 50% der empfohlenen Düngermenge. MandarineZ: 20% der empfohlenen Düngermenge. Gorilla Girl: wie Cheese 50% der empfohlenen Düngermenge. Heute werde ich noch lollipoppen und gucken, wo ich das LST Training noch nachziehen muss. Außerdem habe ich die Pflanzen so umgestellt, dass alle etwas auf gleicher Höhe sind.
SM420growoff2024 Sour Diesel Auto
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April 28, 2024 Day 8 Transplant day so first day of the veg/seedling stage. Roots were showing through the plugs and needed to be planted. They went into soil. Bio365 BIOFLOWER. It's supposed to be comparable to Sohum Living Soil which is what I normally use. We will see how it does I guess. 3 of the 4 babies are about 3 inches tall and the 4th is 2 inches. I'll have to keep an eye on that one. I don't want any runts that can't keep up. It will just get cannibalized. So I may end up with 3 instead of 4 plants. We will see how the next week goes. The environment is going to change slightly until I tweak it back into place. The water on the bottom of the tray will certainly get mostly absorbed by the containers, but there will still be enough to keep the temp and humidity in the area I want it. The light intensity also changed. Due to the height of the nursery bags, each plant gained about 4" in height. The light was left alone with the extension already in place. I can't get a good DLI measurement. I'll have to come up with something. Anyway, that's it for the day. Germination Center Environment: Temp: 78.7° RH: 82.2% VPD: 0.60 kPa April 29, 2024 All 4 seedlings are stretching nicely. The light seems to be on point for them their leaves have flattened out and look great. Good color too. They got a misting this morning. And will get another 250 ml tomorrow. Only plain water from here to mid veg if not early flower. We shall see how things go with them. They seem to be doing fine with the new soil. I'll keep an eye over the next few days to see how it goes. The plain water should be good. Although, I'm not sure what it means, but the soil is not a fertilizer. I wonder if that means I need to add nutrients at some point. We'll see how it goes. If all goes as it should, I won't need nutrients until week 4 at the earliest. The lighting is staying the same now. The plants seem to be quite happy with the intensity. In a couple days, I think I'll have to increase the light power to 90%. But not for a couple of days. The Germination Center hydrometer needs a battery, so I'm kind of blind with the environmental readings. The humidity seems fine as there is condensation on the walls. Temp seems alright as well. It should still be around 80°. Update: I increased the light power to 70% and dropped the heat mat temp down. The seedlings were all reaching a bit more than I like. They are already pretty stretchy, so I gotta control it. I also put in a different hydrometer for the time being. There's no VPD reading, so we will have to work without it for now. Also no daily average readings. That's a shame. Germination Center Environment: Temp: 80.3° RH: 84.2% VPD: unknown April 30, 2024 All 4 ladies look great and are reaching a bit, so I increased the light power to help prevent stretching too much. They are developing really fast though. I will most likely be planting them in their final containers in a week or less. The environment is pretty good with a temp of 78° and humidity at 83%. Still no VPD yet. But I don't really need it. Germination Center Environment: Temp 78° RH: 83% VPD: unknown May 1, 2024 All 4 ladies have started spreading their leaves and rapidly. They will definitely be out of the Germination Center in about a week. Hopefully a week and a half, but I highly doubt it. They are also the same height with the exception of that last one that wasn't really coming out of the soil easily. 🤔. I wonder if I should keep it. Let's see how things go in the next week. Maybe I'll be surprised. They also got 250 ml of water poured into the tray so the plants can suck it all up. The top soil is still moist, so no sense in top watering. I'm mostly using the tray to keep humidity up. It works wonders. I also shouldn't have to do anymore bottom tray watering for a few days. The lights are now set to 80% power and I think the seedlings are liking it. No more hard reaching, and the leaf growth. It just shows healthy plants. The environment is still great at 78° and a humidity of 84%. I plan on keeping it there until the plants get too big for the Germination Center, then I'll do my best to drop it so 70% for the first week of actual veg and then down to 60% for the second week on through week 4 of veg. Then I plan to drop it down to 55% and another 5% every week until harvest. Germination Center Environment: Temp: 78.3° RH: 84.5% VPD: unknown May 2, 2024 These Sour Diesel seedlings look phenomenal. The environment is fantastic as well. I had to increase the light to 100%. I want to see what happens. I don't think my Photone app is accurate for these lights. 60% power was showing a super high DLI of 36 mol/m²/d. The lights are only like 28 watts, so it should be at like 20 mol/m²/d at 100% power. One thing I did notice is that all 4 plants stopped stretching and are focusing on building up those first sets of leaves. It's like the perfect height from the light and they are as tall as the extension. The extension is 4" tall, so the seedlings are as well. The actual dome is 4" tall as well, so we have a good 4" of light distance to a 28 watt light set up. I wonder if AC Infinity has the intensity specs. I may send them an email. Maybe. Speaking of lighting, I can't speak for the intensity as my Photone app doesn't seem to work for this set up and I don't have a light distance to power reference. Or intensity reference. The environment is spot on with a temp of 78° and the humidity around 84%. Plenty of wiggle room for night time environmental changes. I added 250 ml of filtered water to the bottom of the tray again. The top soil is still pretty moist, so bottom it is. I'll probably do a top watering at the start of next week. That should coincide with the final transplant, so top watering will make the most sense and will be needed anyway to transplant the nursery bags. Germination Center Environment: Temp: 78.6° RH: 84.3% VPD: unknown May 3, 2024 Not much to do for these ladies today. They have plenty of water and I'm keeping the humidity at 84%. The temp is a bit high at 81° where it should be around 78°. I haven't quite figured out the lighting. The leaves are fine, everything looks good, but I honestly can't tell if they are stressed out or not. And if they are, is it the light or too much water or too rich of a soil? It could be any one of those factors or two maybe even all three. There is one who's edges are curling up slightly. I'm assuming it's the soil being a bit hot. But I'm not sure. Honestly, it's been almost 3 months since I saw seedlings and I have no idea what I'm looking at. Lol. I might be overthinking things, but there is some sort of stress on at least one of the plants. The smallest is looking good. It's just smaller than the rest. I'm still not sure what I want to do. As I said before, I'll wait for the transplant. I'd like to run all 4 plants, but I don't think it's worth running one that will most likely get cannibalized by the rest. Just a waste of soil and nutrients. But we will see. I'll do my best to keep it in though. Germination Center Environment: Temp: 80° RH: 81% VPD: 0.65 kPa May the 4th be with you. 2024 Star Wars all the way! Today is the last day of week 1 of veg. All 4 plants have excellent growth and are each working on their second node. I'm still hoping I can keep them in the Germination Center for as long as I can. However, I have 2 plants that are ready for harvest. So when they come out, I should be able to put the Germination Center in the big tent. Then there is only 2 plants left to harvest and I after I can do the last transplant into their 3 gallon containers. I have the opportunity to run 5 gallons still. I have 3 yards of soil. I think it's enough for 4 plants. Definitely enough for 3. If I have to get rid of this smaller one, I'll definitely be running 5 gallon containers. The lights are perfect at 80% power. I can only assume the DLI is around 14 mol/m²/d to 16 mol/m²/d. The plants are looking great with it. Just a slight reach and wonderful color. The environment is quite nice indeed. The temp is hanging around 77° with the humidity still at 84%. I'll be dropping the humidity down to 75% starting next week. It'll drop down to 65% to 70% when the transplant happens. Germination Center Environment: Temp: 78.8° RH: 82.7% VPD: 0.58 kPa
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Mmmm...COOKIES!
THURSDAY 11/29: Impressive plants..both of them. Cruella is waaay more sensitive to heat and needs soil with VERY good drainage. She wilts for a few hours every time I water her, no matter how little I give her. I continue to poke and prod it with my moisture probes regularly to keep it from compacting too much for her. Carlotta hasn't given me any problems at all. She's just a little slower, but almost Cruella's equal in size now. I foliar fed a few times and did a photo session. FRIDAY: Foliar fed a few times and tweaked a few things.. They are both spending most of their energy making flowers now...only grew a half inch last night. SATURDAY: Both Cruella and Carlotta continue to stretch. I fed therm with about 1/3 gallon of full-strength bloom nutes today and foliar fed them a few times and re-positioned them. SUNDAY: Cruella's buds are swelling up a bit now. I plucked off most of her burnt-up leaves and she's looking quite sexy now.😋 Carlotta's main stalk and branches have really thickened up. She's gonna be able to support some super-sized colas like her older sister now.👍 I tweaked my ventilation on Saturday and the temps were staying at or below 84, so... I quickly added my other 60w 3500k COB light to the tent..it's and positioned it on the Cookie-twin's backside.. 😎 MONDAY: I foliar fed them today and will again for a few more days, but will probably start rinsing them off with ph'd spring water after that. Their buds are starting to thicken now. TUESDAY: Cruella and Carlotta both appear to have root problems. They look overwatered even when i just feed them a little and even when they are almost dry. I probed their soil very well and they were actually almost dry. I just fed them a tiny dose (12 oz each) of ph'd water with boomerang, kangaroots, calimagic, and some bat guano powder. If I don't see improvement in the next couple of days, I'll assume they are rootbound and transplant them into 5 gallon fabric pots.