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I have 3 bag seed growing slowly in an outdoor tent. Temperature control is a bit of an issue but working with my automation system to try and get this regulated a little better.
The tent is a 5x5, with humidifier, Black Orchid extractor and filter, Wakyme 4000W Quantum Board LED light and a fan for circulating the area.
All the gear is hooked up to my Home Automation system to allow for monitoring and to attempt some environment control.
These two Big Head Seeds are a Superfast Auto strain which claim seed to harvest in 49 days. Going to grow in 5gal Fabric pots with a compost/perlite mix and very little else unless required - just PH'd dechlorinated water and some CannaA/B if needed.
As this is my first grow im open to any tips/advice/etc. This weeks photos will be just of the setup so far and the bag seed growing in the centre.
Seeds are having a little pre-soak for a few hours before papertowel but will add photos as soon as they pop.
Im classing day 1 as when they break the surface, so this is day A - seeds are germinating in paper towel after an overnight soak in spring water.
The girls have both germinated and are still under humidity domes even though the tent is holding stead at around 75%, the domes are helping keep the fan off them a bit whilst they are still a little weak.
So happy to see them break the surface though, so classing today as Day 1. Lets see if the Seed to Harvest time of 49 days is accurate :)
Superfast indeed. This is 7 days after putting in soil, and significantly faster growth than the bag seed I planted (although in fairness they were under a weaker light and colder)
Start of week 3 now, the one nearest the fan is loving life with much faster growth than the other.
In theory these have had 2 of their 7 weeks up to now (we'll see). By next sunday they will be almost halfway towards the goal-line which seems crazy. Im not going to touch these, no topping, only a very light bit of training / tucking where necessary.
Interesting mutation occured last week, which resulted in it self topping at the first node. The "branch" that decided to come out and do nothing was removed which has led to it resuming its normal behaviour. But its going to be a stumpy one.
Still a little stunted by the initial mutation and self-topping the first of the two seeds is slowly starting to put on some weight.
The second is huge in comparison. I have recalculated my notes and these plants are now 30 days old from sprouting.
They are currently under a 18/6 schedule with the "4000Watt" WAKYME light, which was pulling 285W and has today been turned up to max so pulling 385W from the wall.
A very light defoliation and water with 1L of nutrient water PH to 6.5
Hopefully over the next few days should see some rapid development.
Maintaining heat and humidity is by far the most difficult aspect of this so far, the Automation system is being calibrated "on the fly" but the outside temps are fluctuating so much that its struggling to maintain.
In the middle of the tent is the self topped mutation plant, its formed two very dominant main stems that are requiring tieing down to avoid them getting too close to the light.
The other plant is a bit bushier but also showing plenty of bud sites. These really are super quick.
In the pics they are 40 days old, will they be harvestable buds in 9 days - i doubt it, but damn its going to be close.
Well 49 days is up, and these are a little behind schedule. But overall impressed.
The first of the two which self-topped early on has a very different leaf shape to the other now, different pheno? Im a n00b?
Both are flowering though and have plenty of bud sites forming. I want to push them for another week or two to give the buds a chance to put on some weight. Whilst im in a little bit of a rush as meds these need to be good enough to last a while.
The smell is great and over the last week I have removed some larger fan leaves and cleaned up the lower canopy to aid in air circulation. We are having some proper heat cycles right now so the extractor is struggling to keep up a little :)
Overall I am happy so far, and smoke depending this will be a goto grow.
Two very different looking plants have emerged out of these two seeds.
The first is the biggest, but zero trichome production so far. Its leaves are much paler and broader than its sister.
The second has narrower leaves, and is forming lovely looking flowers that are getting a bit frosty.
Im really struggling to figure out how much longer these need, they are already a few weeks behind schedule.
How long left for these two plants? They are a week behind their "estimated" harvest date, and im putting that down to them only having 12 hours of light whilst the others in the tent are flowering.
One hasn't started any trichome production yet but the other is getting frosty.
@Vincent_Van_Grogh, Thanks, they have shot up in the past 48 hours since sorting the temps :) Total Noob here so the bag seed (and these two autos) are really for learning/experimenting
Nice your indoor I'm doing one greenhouse so be good to compare you think they will completely flower in 49 days like that's say? Be cool 😎 if it does good luck qnywaay
@AutoAutomation, yeah my 49 is short and bushy seems like you're have stretched a tad but overall looking very nice my friend yours is bigger then mine was at this stage
@OutdoorRebelGenetics, Its kind of indoor, but also outdoor haha - Its a tent, but in a shed so there are some serious temp differences happening at the moment and a lot of condensation in the tent. Will follow your grow.
Don't bother with what is written on the packet, the plants don't and there are too many variables to growing that the times they give are at best, a very rough guesstimate. You still have weeks to go with these two, maybe 4 weeks or more for the more advanced one and another 6 or 7 for the less advanced one. The estimates they give are usually based on the best examples , being grown with the best equipment by experienced experts and have little in common with a person growing in a cupboard in the basement using cheap dirt and a blurple light. I believe the breeders do themselves no favours by saying strain XYZ will take 8 weeks and strain ABC will take 12 weeks. They would be much better off saying either early, medium or extended. This way the home grower would know more precisely what to expect, rather than be disappointed when the 8 week wonder strain took 14 weeks to flower.
Having two plants of the same strain grow at vastly different rates is more or less normal, each and every seed is an unique individual organic being, not a mass produced cookie cutter replicant programmed to be exact copies of each other. There will always be slight differences between each seed and this is what breeders get excited about when they talk about "pheno hunting".
It is a bit like humans, we may have the same parents but our brother and sister are vastly different to us, mainly due to the huge number of genes we have, but we all still share half our DNA with our parents.
So it is with plants, but the differences are smaller, due to plants having fewer genes.
I have always judged a breeder by how close their seedlings from one strain resemble each other, the more alike they are, the more stable the genetics of that particular strain. The bigger the differences, the more variable the genetics and perhaps the breeder of that strain has not spent enough time stabilizing the genetics of that strain before releasing the seeds on to the market, indicating to me, that perhaps greed is outweighing ethics.
I can whole heartedly recommend Sweet Seeds, they have outstandingly stable and quality genetics. After growing for 35+ years, they have become my "go to" breeder, and I have tried a lot of different seedbanks and don't give this praise lightly. They are so easy to grow and so well sorted that even a monkey could plant some seeds and obtain outstanding results without even trying. And no, I do not get rewarded for plugging their seeds!
Sorry for the digressions and I hope this helps in some way,............
Organoman.
@ORGANOMAN,
Thanks for the detailed response. I was thinking that another 4 weeks was probably on the cards. The frosty one looks further along, but the buds are still fairly small.
Im going to let them grow until they clearly are done. Not in any hurry at the moment so will just perservere with them. :)
AutoAutomation
