They are beginning to flip, huge leaves on the NYC Diesel, even though I've been cutting a lot off. The Norther Lights, is smaller and more branchy, I shall just let them do their thing now for the next two weeks and see what happens. Needing to conserve water at the moment so I'm going to see if i can keep the reservoir going for a few weeks or more so I'm just playing it by ear, a splash of micro, or a dash of bloom depending on how the stars are. Lots of nipping in the bud and defoliation and moderate tie down because both these girls are resistant to being bent over. Go figger.