Tangerine Dream Auto grow diary (journal) week9 by BucketBrigade

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It is interesting to observe this experience. But as far as I know, clones have the same stage of development as the parent plant. It makes sense to clone auto flowers in the very early stages of vegetation, if you do it on the flowering period, the small auto flowers all exactly bloom and get micro-growing with micro-harvesting. But again it is in theory! As will be in practice, you can see for yourself. There is a possibility that the plant will become a hermaphrodite from overdose and stress, but it depends on the predisposition of genetics. For cloning autoflowers suitable strains sativa with a long stage of vegetation and if you try to clone a very young plant, so he had time to recover at the stage of vegetation, it is possible you will succeed and you will identify a full auto-flowering clone, a long time ago I heard from friends about such a successful experiment. To do this, you need to comply with the accuracy of the calculations of the stage of life of plants and do everything with surgical precision

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BucketBrigadecommented6 years ago

@RussianGrower, It looks like you are right. These do seem to be be flower mode. I'm anxious to see what these grow into.

BucketBrigadecommentedweek 76 years ago

@Flavoursuk, @PussyWagon6969, @Coopman, @Squirrel_Master, @Dunk_Junk, @Lou_Grows, @iDontEvenGrow, Hello everyone. Have a look at the photos. I have some closeups of the tricomes. Are they clear? Milky? When do you think they are ready for harvest?

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PussyWagon6969commented6 years ago

@BucketBrigade, trust me (see my week 11 of Tangerine Dream), the wait is soooo worth it. I harvested my primo cola way to early because I thought it was done and it shriveled into some pretty low quality stuff. I probably dried way to fast but still... the buds I harvested 2.5 weeks later are sooo much better. Also, the one month cure is also well worth the wait. The smells that develop are insane....

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BucketBrigadecommented6 years ago

@PussyWagon6969, I'm going to upload some better photos in another day or so. The waiting is killing me! Thanks for the link!

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BucketBrigadecommented6 years ago

@Flavoursuk, Good point. I'll improve the lighting and try again.

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BucketBrigadecommentedweek 16 years ago

@Flavoursuk, @PussyWagon6969, @Coopman, @Squirrel_Master, @Dunk_Junk, @Lou_Grows, @iDontEvenGrow, Have a look. Cloned from a flowering autoflower. They do seem to be growing a little differently than straight from seed. No flowers are growing yet, but those are odd bunches of leaves. I already have a little nute burn. I just watered the solution down to try and take care of that. But, they seem to be doing ok otherwise. What do you think about those small bunches of leaves on both plants?

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BucketBrigadecommented6 years ago

@Lou_Grows, Yes, she was flowering when I cut the clones. She was about 2 to 3 weeks into flowering.

BucketBrigadecommented6 years ago

@Dunk_Junk, I am as well!

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Lou_Growscommented6 years ago

@BucketBrigade, was the mother flowering when you cut it?

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Thegermling509commentedweek 106 years ago

Well thanks to your experimenting I now know that cloning a flowering auto does work. There is an evident loss in quantity but it does seem to work. Please update us with a smoke report. Also, do you mind posting photos of the root system? Thanks for your contribution to the community!!!

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BucketBrigadecommented6 years ago

@Thegermling509, Have a look. I posted several photos. I tried to keep these plants small. If you have a look at my previous diary, you will see the parent they were cloned from. She was a monster plant and I needed these to be much smaller. These were actually cloned and grown in 2 inch grow cups to help limit their growth. Next time, I'll use agressive training. Also, these were dried agressively (beginners mistake) for a day before posting the wet harvest weight. The branches already started to snap. I expect the sweat/fermentation will help these cure properly.

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Dunk_Junkcommentedweek 86 years ago

She's not far away now! Great work documenting this. One request if I may? I'd like to see a wide shot of her so I can see how tall she is. 👌

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BucketBrigadecommented6 years ago

@Dunk_Junk, Absolutely, have a look. Apologies for the lighting. For my next grow I'm considering adding additional lighting to the tent just for better photography. Also, there are actually 2 clones from the same auto flowering parent that I have been posting photos from. The taller ended up looking like a barely trained plant with one cola higher than all the others, This one has put most of her energy into the tallest cola. The second plant I managed to train just slightly better. She seems to have applied more energy across multiple colas. They are substiantially fatter than the 1st plant. And overall, very few green leaves left.

OutForRealcommentedweek 86 years ago

Hello ! I can see on your pics that's your trichomes are Clear & cloudy , I would say 50%/50% so your harvest will come soon ! The yellowing phenomenon at the end of flowering is the senescence , in your case maybe an early senescence ! An early senescence is mostly cause by under feeding your plants , I can see than you'r using the same amont of Grow / Micro & Bloom : at that stage you should not , the feeding chart says 3ml Grow 6ml Micro 9ml Bloom for 10L of water but you'r giving them 6ml of each so the nutient "balance" is not good ! If you correct it everything will be fine , but I really likes thoses colours 😍 ! Holp it will help you 👍

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DudeGrowsWeedcommentedweek 86 years ago

It is because you are getting close to harvest. It’s normal for the leaves to start changing colors near the end. Similar to trees in autumn. Happy harvesting! 👍

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StonedWolfcommentedweek 16 years ago

I love experiments like this! Thanks for giving evidence, one way or the other, to something "everyone knows" Good luck and I am excited to see the outcome of this!

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Dunk_Junkcommentedweek 76 years ago

Stunning pictures this week (7) what are you using? 👍

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Dunk_Junkcommented6 years ago

@BucketBrigade, Thank you Sir!

BucketBrigadecommented6 years ago

@Dunk_Junk, Sent the info via chat

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BucketBrigadecommented6 years ago

@Dunk_Junk, I'll send the info shortly. The macro lens is tricky to focus. It has a very narrow depth of field. If the surface is not flat and you are close to the subject, parts will always be out of focus. Basically you get the choose which part you want in focus, but not all of it. They are great for portraits with blury backgrounds.

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PussyWagon6969commentedweek 106 years ago

Nice work dude! Just an FYI, I tried drying a sample bud next to my light (like yours) while it was running and it dried WAAAAAYYY too fast. My little branches ended up snapping within 48 hrs.... My real harvest I was able to dry for 4 days total before little branches were starting to snap and that bud turned out to be really fragrant (compared to the fast drying sample). Learn from my mistake, the slow dry mixed with a nice month long cure really does make a difference!😀

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PussyWagon6969commented6 years ago

@BucketBrigade, yeah mine was a bit stinky out of the tent... though the smell seemed to subside a little bit after a few days but it’s possible I was used to it. Maybe try using the brown paper bag method? Inside the tent that might help protect it from over drying or using outside of the tent might help conceal the smell... sorry I feel like this is going beyond my scope of experience

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BucketBrigadecommented6 years ago

@PussyWagon6969, Thanks for that information. I had no idea! Does it smell as they dry out of the tent? I placed them in the tent to deal with the odor that I appreciate but no one else does.

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PussyWagon6969commentedweek 86 years ago

Lookin great, can't wait to see the final yield off of a cloned Auto!!

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BucketBrigadecommented6 years ago

@PussyWagon6969, You and me both!

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VT420commentedweek 56 years ago

I took a lower branch from my TD that had one or two hairs on a very tiny bud and cloned it. It hasn't grown taller but the bud is growing well.

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BucketBrigadecommented6 years ago

@VT420, That's cool. It's essentially what I did. However, I trimmed the tiny bud/cola that was developing thinking I could force it into a veg mode. The plant acted just as if I had topped it normally. Both cuttings did and they are the ones growing in the photos.

Dunk_Junkcommentedweek 46 years ago

They are doing far better than they have any right too! Amazing progress. Looks like it is a success right now!

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BucketBrigadecommented6 years ago

@Dunk_Junk, It does seem like it. But it might be too early. I won't call it a success unless I get a reasonable harvest. It will be some time still until that happens.

Stickcommentedweek 86 years ago

Hi @BucketBrigade! I won't worry too much at this stage, your plant is ending its lifecycle, she's consuming every nutrients she can, and most of them come from the leaves. This is called "senescence", and its basically the process of deterioration with age. I hope you've been flushing for the last days, because I see many cloudy trichomes, meaning she's getting ready and harvest should happen in a few days. Depending on the effects you want, you need to get 80-100% of milky trichomes for an energetic high (more THC), or 15-30% of amber trichomes for a couch-locking high (more CBN/CBD). So in this situation I'd stop the nutrients, flush for at least a week with plain pH'd water, then enjoy the harvest 😎Hope this will help, keep us up-to-date and good luck for the last days 👊

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Lou_Growscommentedweek 76 years ago

I think you still have a week or two to go brother

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PussyWagon6969commentedweek 56 years ago

Still killin it Bucket! Love watching this grow develop =D

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PussyWagon6969commentedweek 46 years ago

Wow! What a trip... I thought for sure this was going to be a super stunted plant but its size is legit. Cool to see the growth mutations on those leaves!

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Dunk_Junkcommentedweek 36 years ago

Just have to say this is an awesome insight into cloning autoflowers.

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Dunk_Junkcommentedweek 26 years ago

Wow she is a weird looking thing! But she is growing! Still interesting stuff!!!!

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Socrat63scommentedweek 104 years ago

Awesome post, been wondering for a long time if you could clone autos successfully. Felt like a pos for mistakenly topping my AK auto while doing LST, so maybe i can salvage the clone... Thanks for the info . 😎

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