Frisian Dew Amsterdam 2022

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Agricola_Borealis Have waited a while we had some late snow on aprils fools day, now the forecast says that it wil be warm and sunny next week. so it is a good day to start had 5 out of five by germinating directly in soil last year. I got a tip by video comment from dutch passion to germinate autoflowering in bigger container to let them grow faster right from the beginning. I Bought two twelve liter buckets and eighty liters of garden soil, action was two bags for the price of one. On the way back I realised that I should have inflated my bicycle tires a bit more to transport this amount of weight. Cut some drainage holes in the side of the bucket filled them up to ust over a third and mixed in a couple of hands full of dry cow and chicken manure from the garden center and forgot the ground egg shells filled the buckets up with soil and watered them with the shower now I punched some holes in the soil and added the eggshells. I put the seeds about half a centimeter in the soil and covered them under a bit of white sand. Then I covered this with transparent fridge boxes and put the buckets in my window pane.
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Week 1. Vegetation
4y ago
Agricola_Borealis This is still germination, but it seems that this forum This is mostly been the week I was away, it had lassted a week without any sign of life, my girlfriend has been here last weekend to controll the humidity of the soil and geven a bit of water, she said it was still moist when she found it but no reaction.
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Week 2. Vegetation
4y ago
5 cm
Height
14 hrs
Light Schedule
15 °C
Day Air Temp
16 °C
Substrate Temp
16 °C
Night Air Temp
200 cm
Lamp Distance
Agricola_Borealis I had left the buckets in the window pane, for a week, my girlfriend had controlled it and given it only a ittle bit of water, because it seemed still nicely moist but she had seen no sign of life lastsunday. I returned home, and YESS. The frisian dew has germinated, the weathe forecast is excellent! Sunny and warm for the time of year! I am satisfied with this germination method. I had to leave home for a week and the seed has germinated nicely in my absence. Now I keep my fingers crossed. This one was very slow germinating, between 10 and 14 days, but she looks healthy, tomorrow I am going to work in the garden, two more Frisian dews are going to be seeded, and I have to decide which automatics I am going to order, last year there has been a mould disaster mid summer. The spot for the Big one has allready been prepared mid winter cow and chicken manure, eggshells and kitchen scraps, which the worms are feasting upon I reckon Very glad Itook the risk of starting beore easter, Now i Have the first plant, and the weather forecast is good. 26 april. The plant has been above the ground for about eight days now, estimated that it was 48 hours when I discovered her after my easter visit to my mom in the north of the country. Since I read good things about worm poo, I thought why not dig up some worms from my garden and let them loose in the ot where my plant is growing. They had some trouble digging themselvesin so I dug a small hole in the soil near the sideof the bucket and covered them with some soil. I allso punched three holes with my finger and filled them with dry manure, to give them something to eat. If things go well they will munch the cowshit, and convert this into worm poo. 28 april, the forecast has deteriorated, about 30 % of sun for the coming week, plant stilllooks healthy, but I miss the sun, today was completely grey, until late in the afternoon when the sun is allready behind the buildings to the west, hope the worms are doing fine.
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Agricola_Borealis
Agricola_Borealisstarted grow question 4y ago
Worms in pots. About a week after germination I have introduced about a dozen earthworms in the 10 liter bucket where my plant is growing. I read a lot about worm poo, but never I seen someone introducing worms in the pots where their plants grow. Anyone any experience? Why not?
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HolyHerbsanswered grow question 4y ago
I have tons of worms in my pots. Just provide them with food ( brown / green ) and youll have your own poop but better, Bacteria will move through your pot on the back of the worm. They will help keep an more even biological envirement in your pot. Also the bigger the pot the better. But to really benefit from wormhumus you should really use worms to compost organic matter like fruit and veggies for a more heavily nutrition ratio. I would advide to use straw/cacao shells (brown) and your cutted weedleafs (green) on top of the pot to prevent the pot from drying out, to provide food for the worms/bacteria/fungi. Worms are key in organic grow!!
Agricola_Borealis
Agricola_Borealisstarted grow question 4y ago
My neighbours fiancé yesterday evening dropped by and gave me the lamp on the photograph, I have no users manual, but I understood it is for houseplants. I wonder if it is of any use and how I can use it. Whenever the sun shines I will put the plant in the sun of course
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GrowingGrannieanswered grow question 4y ago
It's probably better than nothing at all but if you don't have any information on it other than "it's for houseplants" we can't tell you how effective it's going to be! If you use is on cloudy days, I would get it as close to your grow as possible (6"?) but monitor the top leaves to make sure they're not getting burned... at the SLIGHTEST hint of trouble, move it away a bit and continue monitoring... you should be able to figure out the sweet spot and use it accordingly... Nice neighbor, btw! Good luck!
Agricola_Borealis
Agricola_Borealisstarted grow question 4y ago
From my former grow question, but now more specific: How close can I put he arms of this lamp to my little plant? *Whenever there is gods nuclear fusion plant in the sky I will use that one of course.)
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GrowingGrannieanswered grow question 4y ago
I'd start them out between 6" and 8" away from your plant - then monitor carefully to adjust! Since it's probably a pretty weak light for our kind of grow, it may not do much but as I said, it'll be better than nothing. The main concern I would have is how much heat it puts out... You could plug it in away from your plants and test the amount of heat (just feel with your hand)... figure out how far away from the light your HAND is comfortable and start there.. Best of luck!
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Week 3. Vegetation
4y ago
5 cm
Height
14 hrs
Light Schedule
15 °C
Day Air Temp
16 °C
Substrate Temp
16 °C
Night Air Temp
200 cm
Lamp Distance
Agricola_Borealis Mushrooms: Yesterday evening I saw a couple of very cute little mushrooms in the pot with Dieuwke, must live of the cowdung I mixed with the soil! Beautifull! this means that funghi allready are decomposing the dung I mixed in. I thought I would try to make a picture of these mushrooms today, but they are allready mostly whithered today. But funny that there is life in the bucket Last week the most important variable was the amount of sunshine, weather is dry and cool, and rain would be very welcome for my garden, Plant is doing fine, I allso seeded an automatic, allso in a 10 liter bucket in "gardening soil" which is sold to improve your garden, It is a bit more solid than potting soil, and is less fertilized than "potting soil" This year I mix a bit of cow and chicken shit through the soil near the bottom, the rest I fill up with just soil, so that the top layer will be poorer during germination, when the plant has its second pair of leaves I will introduce the earthworms and some more dried dung. A friend of mine dropped by tuesday night and left me an automatic seed and a lamp for houseplants in the shape of a tetrapus, Ihave no idea if it does anything, it israther week, so in the afternoon the plant goes outside, While busy I am allso going to seed two peppers, one big mid one, and onevery hot habanero type of pepper. 30 april. Godverdomme! Tiefus tering! I just wrote a long anwser to a comment by holyherbs, and I accidentally lost it! It was all aout soil and humidity, but certainly about the frustration of gloomy overcast weather, low clouds from the North Sea covering my part of the netherlands for days in a row. 1-5 first of may, the day started with some sunlight through high level cloud, but it got sunnyer during the day, this evening I am going to seed my other two frisian dews, and I allready have made a beginning for the autoflowering I still have to buy, I filled a 20 liter untill 15 centimeters below the edge, wwith a mixture of potting soil, gardening soil, a bit of soil from my garden for microorganisms a bag of endive from my mother in law, some kitchen leftovers from the balcony, dried cow and chicken manure, some seaschells and some eggshells to prevent the decomposing matter to become too acidic and I collected a coupe of dozens of earthworms, and put this in the bathroom to further decompose, if it is going to smell I can allways put it outside, but for now the bathroom seems the best place. My girlfriend dropped by and she had a big leek, which I chopped and put on top of it, I did not mix the leek through the soil, because I am afraid that worms don't like things from the union family, so I put it on top. Dieuwke is hanging outside in the sun, and looks very happy! I wonder how fast she wil grow having germinated one seed immediately in a 10 liter bucket, mushrooms have appeared a couple of days ago, so the cowpoo is being processed by funghi, and yesterday I added a second dozen of worms who will allso decompose the dung. So I guess she wil have plenty of nutrients untill she is big enough to be planted in the earth. Now, when the sun of may is coming through I am very happy that I germinated in a 10 liter bucket in stead of the small 1-liter buckets from previous years, which were a bit stressfull, drying out very quickly In this bucket the plant can grow unhindered for the first couple of weeks, and I don't think that I will have nutrition issues either. If the worms are doing well I can just feed them by poking holes in the soil with my finger and feed the worms with cow and chicken manure. 2-may, Another sunny day😀 Laughing my ass of because of some fellow-Dutchmen who wrote that I was waaay too early, that I shouldhave wayted till after the "icy saints" (11-15 may) the last period in which you can expect freezing temperatures at night. After a couple of gloomy days my plant has had two perfect sunny days, in the morning in my living room behind a window, and the afternoon out of the wind in the warmth of the sun. This autumn I am going to buy growing leds, in the first place to improve my own mood, but with the help of electric light next year I could start a plant at 21 of march to create a true monster in autumn. This year I am on the early side, but that is my idea of IJsheiligen (icy saints) At 15 may I will probably have a plant big enough to plant in my garden, surrounded by my rain proof slug-traps. The soil near the bottom ofthe bucket is still a bit on the wet side, so for the coming plants I used a different mixture, but the plant is growing full speed now, and two dozens of wormsare working on the structure of the substrate, so everything up till now is going according to plan. I think the parsley is waiting for rainy weather to germinate, Parsley can take ages to germinate. 4-may. Perfect growing conditions, still low temoeratures, but a lot of light! At schiphol Airport it is 14 degrees C, 57 Fahrenheit, but out of the wind conditions are perfect. Top layer is drying out, but near the bottom still plenty of moisture. A seedling in a bucket does not need watering dayly, so the only thing I can do is move the plant to the window at night and when the sun comes to my porch put her there. Hard to imagine that such a tiny plant can grow to a three meter tree in one season. I think I will let the pot dry out for another couple of days and then poke holes with my finger and put in more manure. And a generous soking and some more worms. Nothing to do? well, since the storms at the end of winter in western Europe, it is dry, so I think I will do a lot of work in the garden. I still have an enourmous bag of cow- andchicken manure, so I'll clear a lot of weeds, and in stead of letting it dry out I will give after after raking the poo in. This year I am not going to till the soil, and let the worms do the job. I am planning to allso seed some nice tomatoes and hang a courgette plant in a slug free bucket. No sign of germinating parsley yet, but the seeds were two years old. and parsley hasits own will germinating maybe it is waiting for a rainy week, athough I keep the tub moist. Allso tinking for next year for the fun, a pot with a window of transparent plastic to monitor the worms.
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Agricola_Borealis
Agricola_Borealisstarted grow question 4y ago
I was wondering if it is safe to plant in soil where earthworms are allready present, or would it be better to let the plant grow for about a week before introducing these animals?
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Organoman
Organomananswered grow question 4y ago
Worms will not harm seeds, they have been living together for Millenia!
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123Grow
123Growanswered grow question 4y ago
Say high to your new Friends 😂😂😂 No jokes, they are your friends. They poop out bacteria and that bacteria feeds other bacteria and that feeds your plants and keeps bugs away.
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FR_PhenoFinderanswered grow question 4y ago
The mucus they produce when they move will after some days, be attacked by bacterias and will reject nitrogen directly in the roots of your plants, which is completly natural fertilization so let them be, some of them, will even structure the soil by taking organic matter on top of the soil and mineral matter in the soil and create "new soil"
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Week 4. Vegetation
4y ago
5 cm
Height
15 hrs
Light Schedule
17 °C
Day Air Temp
60 %
Air Humidity
16 °C
Substrate Temp
14 °C
Night Air Temp
10 liters
Pot Size
416 PPM
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Agricola_Borealis 5 Mei Plant is now for about 15 days above ground. Mornings inside behind window afternoon on a sheltered sunny spot outside, Conditions have been changing, on sunny days she grows, on cloudy days little happens, last couple of days she has grown noticeable per day, and the weather forecast for the coming two weeks is excellent, but we will have to see that. I would love to know what is going on inside the pot, I planted her in gardening soil which is a bit more solidthan potting soil, but with some dried cow and chicken poo mixed in, and I added earthworms when she was a week old. The top layer is drying up a bit while near the buttom it is still on the humid side, so the "gardening soil" is not transporting water from bottom to top as well as potting soil but this has allso an advantage, that the bottom part does not evaporate as quickly, so I can leave her alone for longer. I can easily check humidity by poking my index finger in a drainage hole. I think I won't give any water untill the bottom part allso feels drier, and then poke some holes with my finger, fill them up with cow-and chicken, and put it under my garden sprinkler, I am going to water my garden anyway.
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Kynareth
Kynareth commentedweek 04y ago
good luck with your grow
Agricola_Borealis
Agricola_Borealis commented4y ago
@Kynareth, ¡¡Thanks mate!!
homerjgangia
homerjgangia commentedweek 04y ago
Good luck with your grow mate!💪💪
HolyHerbs
HolyHerbs commentedweek 34y ago
Although the shrooms are not rly a problem and decompose matter like u said it mostly says something about the humidity in the pot also. Mosty times its too wet when shrooms are showing. :)
HolyHerbs
HolyHerbs commented4y ago
@Agricola_Borealis, oh you're Dutch haha. That's easier.. Personally, I'm not a fan of garden soil, but it can definitely work. I believe that the fluffiness is actually good. At some point, that garden soil goes into clumps, and it's hard to maintain the balance between water and air at the roots; this also happens with potting soil. Weed loves airy soil because when the plant has taken over the ground, everything becomes a clump and it stands firm if it's done right. I've never really had issues with a loose stem. That could actually be due to soil that's too compact where the roots can't settle properly. It gets worse when it's too wet. What I personally like best is to make a mix of potting soil, coco, and lava grit. All together it's a bit more expensive, but it's nice and airy and can hold a lot of water at the same time. The porous grit provides a lot of surface area for bacteria to settle, unlike perlite where only the surface can be used. The grit also releases many elements over time, just like lava meal, but more gradually. Coco provides food for worms and has a good water/air balance. Add some worm castings and you have a mix that I've been growing on for over a year. It's good that you're trying to determine the moisture with your finger and don't stop doing that, but what also works really well is lifting the pot, as long as it's not too big. When you do this often, before and after watering for example, you quickly learn how much water the pot holds and how much more might need to be added.
Agricola_Borealis
Agricola_Borealis commented4y ago
@HolyHerbs, Hi, I just wrote a very detailed essay, partly in response to things you hadn't written, for example because "luchtigheid" was translated as "lightheartedness," and I only just now see that you had written in Dutch. So I also mentioned that lightheartedness can be an advantage because things sometimes go wrong when people are too precise or something like that. Then I accidentally clicked something wrong and my entire argument disappeared. Now I'm writing in Dutch and I'm really curious how that will look in English later. I think you're right that garden soil isn't ideal, but for the Frisian Dew's, it doesn't seem to matter much. I believe that striving for perfect soil only really becomes relevant when the root space for the plants becomes a limiting factor. This little plant is going straight into the ground as soon as I dare to do so regarding slug damage, and then you first get a little week of standstill, as if the plant is exploring its environment, and then they shoot up like a rocket for me. The reason for using garden soil and the firmer ground is that I feel my plants in previous years were loosened from the ground by wind and rain because it was a bit too loose at the base of the plant. You can also counter this by sticking stakes next to them and securing them, but I thought a solid base can't hurt. The tallest one reached three meters twenty last year, so that was quite a hassle with stakes and ropes when it tipped over. Especially since I was alone that evening and you actually need someone to hold the plant upright while you tie the ropes. Another reason for using garden soil was that I wanted to use it for my plan to hang species pots with handles for my parsley and basil from my upstairs neighbor's balcony and create living soil there for several years, and that potting soil shrinks very quickly, while garden soil seems more suitable as a base for a worm paradise, right next to the kitchen door, so I can dump everything directly there. The parsley is already germinating with twenty worms and a bucket of kitchen scraps at the bottom and a lot of grass, and throughout it some fertilizer pellets and 20 worms to process everything. I'm getting off track. The plant looks good, so there's no reason for me to worry right now. What I do want to think about is the autos. I think every day counts there. Last year I lost time by leaving them a bit too long in 1-liter yogurt containers. I want to sow them this year in whole garden soil so they can get up to speed right away. I'm considering several things. A well-thought-out mix with things like lava meal, etc., but I have little space to store all that. Maybe it's also worth trying to fill a twenty-liter bucket tomorrow with a mix of potting soil and garden soil to combine both properties, a few hefty handfuls of cow and chicken manure from Intratuin, a scoop of healthy soil from my garden for microorganisms, and a hefty bunch of worms; at least I can try that! Then that twenty-liter bucket might be big enough to keep the plant in until harvest time. The only question is whether three weeks is enough to balance the soil and whether the manure won't be too "sharp.
HolyHerbs
HolyHerbs commented4y ago
@Agricola_Borealis, Hey! I personally think that the soil is quite important, especially when the plant is small. If the soil is harder to colonize, the whole process slows down. The less resistance, the less stress. Outside, the resistance is already higher and variable. You're talking about uniting properties, but I think you do that best with potting soil and coco. However, I agree that if you put them in full soil, it often works out fine. If necessary, just till a bit before you put the plants in. I started making a mix myself last year. A whole list of ingredients, and it worked well. Still, I now just throw in some tablets as nutrients for convenience, haha. Those things work really well!
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CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrow commentedweek 34y ago
Hey there, hope i answered your question, anything else you need just let me know 🚀
love_2_grow
love_2_grow commentedweek 04y ago
Happy Growing, Buddy! 🌱🌱🌱
Agricola_Borealis
Okay, I will search a bunch tomorrow, and introduce them way before seeding, so that they can preparethe soil a bit before germinating.
Agricola_Borealis
Anwser to my own question: Because I don't feel a lot of warmth I wil put it at she smallest ditance found in your anwsers, 6 inch which is about 15 centimeters, Today is a perfect day by the way, sunny. The pant is standing outside in the sun, in front of a white cupboard, the second pair of leaves, (the first after the germination leaves) seem to be growing,
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Thanks for your comments! Now I know I´m not the only person keeping earthworms as pets! The worms in the pots with my weedplants are temporary, because I will plant them in the garden once they are more or less slugproof. For my Parsley and basil which is always prayed upon by slugs and snails I hung two 50 liter mortar tubs from the balcony of my neighbour upstairs last week, not with potting soil, but with ¨gardening soil¨ which does not shrink as much, and therein I mixed grass from my lawn, kitchen scrapes and some dried cowpoo, and these mortar tubs will stay there right in front of my kitchen door forever, here I intend to create a permanent worm paradise, I allso added some soil from my garden for microbial life. Especially the parsley is very important to me, and because of the city heat it grows year round in mild winters, and otherwise comes back right after a freezing period. Tip for keeping your pet worms happy: coffee grounds are their favourite treat!
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