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- Two FastBuds Gorilla Glue autoflowers in 5L Hempy Buckets
- One Barney’s Farm Gorilla Glue auto in 2L coco/perlite Hempy
📆 Transplanted seedlings in Jiffy7 plugs into Hempy buckets
Leds adjusted 13-15" above the plants - Getting about 450PPFD for each plant.
📆 FastBuds Gorilla Glue seem to have slight Mg deficiency going
• Tried a small dose of RAW Kelp incase that would fix the def
📆 Screwed up Barney’s Glue 2nd week nute bump - Resulting for Mg def.
📆 During the first 14 days watered them daily twice about 0.25L per irrigation. To expand the root growth more towards pot edges.
— Reservoir drained/changed every two to one day.
— Second week light schedule 21/3
📆 At the start of the 3rd week lights re-adjusted 8-10" above — 550-600PPFD
📆 4/20 - Barney’s Glue still having Mg def (tried to up Mg ppm with Canna 7% Magnesium)
📆 Upped feed to 1.4-1.7 EC
📆 4/22-4/23 Roots hittin down to reservoir - growth accelerated a lot in two days!
📆 4/24 - Pistils on both FB GG’s
• Lights adjusted 8" above
📆 4/28 - Plants moved to the new 3x3x5 tent
📆 4/29 - Added 2100K (250W HPS) amongst with the LED’s
• Plants are on stretch phase
End of the 4th week : Seems like the most stretching happened during the 4th week.
2x @FastBuds Gorilla Glue auto's in 5L Perlite Hempy Buckets
1x @Barney's Farm Gorilla Glue auto in 2L Coco Hempy Bucket
📆 5/4 - Got the new rig up and runnin!
- New light KingBrite QB288 - 240W Quantum LED
- Prima Klima K2600 6” Carbon filter
Now feeding Remo's full lineup 🙏
5L Hempies needs to be watered every 12h about 1L per time.
📆 5/6 - Barney's Gorilla Glue auto may have lost the autoflowering genetics.
📆 5/7 - Switched Remo Grow into Remo Bloom
## 5th Week watering routine: ##
• 0.75L twice per day/about every 12h
— Gives a slight runoff 10-20%
• Built up the full strength from 2.1 EC to 2.4 (slight tip burn @2.4EC)
Start of the 6th week! 😇 @FastBuds Glues slowly shifting into the bud set & stretch seem slowed down.
Barney's Glue is a wierdo. She wont really start flowering even tho I've kept it under 12/12 schedule for past 7 days.
Feed mix EC was high as 2.4 / 1200ppm - slight tip burn appeared so lowered it down to 2.2 & reduced Astroflower dosage to 1.25ml/L
- Slight tip burn keeps progressing. Made a new feed mix:
• 2ml/L Remo MagnifiCal
• 1.5ml/L Remo Micro
• 2ml/L Remo Bloom
• 0.75ml/L Remo AstroFlower
• 0.45ml/L Canna 7% Magnesium
ENDING EC: 1.9 / TDS: ~950ppm
pH'd to 5.9
@FastBuds Gorilla Glue autos in 5L Perlite Hempys & @Barney's Farm Gorilla Glue auto in 2L Coco Hempy.
Start of the 7th week!
Humidity is getting little problematic inside the tent as some days it creeps up 70%.
Plants seem to have problems to "sweat" the moisture out, which I believe is causing serrates to curl and point upwards, leaf margins and tips getting burnt.
Tried to reduce feed mix EC down to 1.8
📆 5/18 Flushed the buckets incase of excess salts
Been struggling the past weeks (7th-8th week) with plants nutrition.
Highest peak was @ 2.4 EC and lowest 1.6
Watering them at least twice, sometimes three times per day. They getting 0.5-0.8L each per time. Which usually gives about 10-30% runoff.
pH'd everything a bit above the avg @ 5.9-6.1pH.
📆 5/26/2022 Setup a new extraction fan. 125mm/6" Vents TT 220-280m3/h
📆 Seems like can't find a balanced nutrition for these. Flushed the buckets 4th time & mixed a new feed. Ending EC 1.2 / TDS ~650-700ppm.
FYI. Feels the foliar symptoms got even worse — Apparently plant was lacking Potassium.
➡️ Low on Cations which maybe caused Sodium and/or Chloride abudance.
📆 Day 55-57 Tried 1.3 EC / Everything was close to 1:1 & ~1ml/L
— Ca & Mg def appeared with 600ppm feed
— Day 58 upped feed back to 1.9-2.1 EC
— Flushed the buckets with 4ml/L Canna's FLUSH. Runoff EC went down to 50-150ppm.
📆 And back to Remo's schedule for Hydroponics / 1:1 everything & 1.5ml/L each, 0.75ml/L Astro
FYI ❗️Too low Ca ppm compared to K ppm (Ca def visible)
📆 On 10th week it's been raining almost every day and tent RH tends to climb up to 60-68%.
Plants been drinking less e.g only max 0.6L/12h
• Went for a pretty long with 1.5ml/L each & 0.75ml/L Astro / 750-800ppm
• Barney's Gorilla Glue auto Calcium def getting worse. Flushed her bucket once
Happy growing! 🥦
📆 6/13 - Flushed the buckets again incase of excess Micros.
- Reduced Cal/Mag & Micro dose down to 1ml/L (1 : 1 : 1.5 : 1.5)
📆 Start of the 11th week. Reduced Cal/Mag & Micro dose down to ~1ml/L. Feed ending EC 1.7 ~800ppm.
GG#1 (the left one) showing worse P def signs every day. Can't figure out what keeps locking it out.
📆 6/17 - Day 72: GG#1 foliage starting to yellow really quick. Leaves started to fade after reducing micro dose. Upped Micro back to 2ml/L (1:1 everything and CalMag goes 1ml/L) EC 2.3 / 1150ppm
📆 6/19-6/20: Lowered light intensity down to 30-40% & plants getting 300-400PPFD
📆 6/22 - start of 12th week. Home stretch!
Left Remo Micro completely out and mixed up a new reservoir patch @ 620ppm / 1.2 EC
Clipping off dead and crispy leaves daily. Should have done a lot more defoliating after 3 weeks in flower.
📆 6/23 - GG#2 Trichs turning amberish faster than the left plant GG#1's. Even tho gg#1 seems to be fading or yellowing way faster.
• Figured it was a light burn (finally? lol) from the very beginning and dimmed the LED down to 20-30% @ about 250-350 PAR
📆 6/27 heat wave started couple days ago and tent temps rose up to 26-28C during the days. Found mold (Botrytis) from GG#2 😟😟
6/25 - 6/28 Gave them pH'd water only before harvest.
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How's it goin man? I've been lurking here the past 2 weeks or so and I think I've realized I might be running my light too hard. I've been using phototone pro to measure my PPFD as well and I've got it to where the top of the plant is about 1100ppfd but by the time it reaches the lower leaves its around 700ppfd. I'm 90% sure we have the same light too. I move it up an inch or two and remeasure when the tops begin to prey, do you think I'm running them too hard? I notice you were running at a max around 700 and just lowered it again to 350ppfd. Why? I'm only on my first ever grow, but I thought near the end of flower you increased PPFD and decreased temp and humidity?
@Verbalist,Thank you for the very detailed response. Mine is the one with 3500K diodes and 660nm Red diodes but it also has UV and IR diodes. When I ordered the light I thought it would have a switch to turn the UV and IR on/off but it doesn't. However other then them beginning to prey I don't see any other signs of light stress. I think I might buy some CFLS. it was a thought that crossed my mind but now it makes more sense. I would wanna aim for the blue end of the spectrum right? like 6000k? If I just get 4 45w 6000k CFLS? Thank you for the advice, I've been worried about trying to push more power to my light but it sounds like I'm probably already pushing hard enough. I'm gonna try to chill out and just see how she responds, maybe lower it some and see how she likes it.
Hey @PhunkyPhallus ! Appreciate your concern and I'll try to answer best as I can.
Okay, firstly this diary comes little behind as I chopped the plants down ~3days ago. I'll update it soon.
But yes to the subject. Quickly checked your diary and the board looks very much the same. Mine is KingBrite's 240W Samsung LM301b board. The board only has two different diodes: 3500K 'White' Leds and 660nm Red diodes. So the output color temperature (CCT) is close to ~3000K, which is then very reddish spectrum. 3500K diodes support narrow scale of blue wavelengths.
Plants can not utilize all that red light, even in full bloom. It's ofcourse strain depent, BUT when plant can't absorb all the light it converts into heat on the leaf surface (your tent/canopy temp wont rise tho) and plants start showing light/heat stress. Excessive red light also ’forces’ plants to transpire more which then creates nutrient imbalances and deficiences/excess symptoms may appear.
And I believe that was my issue.
During the veg I had a different 4000K temp led's and I ran them between 700-1000ppfd. Under the 240W led plants never looked happy when PPFD exceed 500-700.
And about lowering my ppfd near the end was because the buds started to show worse light stress symptoms more and more (foxtails & chlorosis)
When leaves starting to "pray" at a tight angle they're trying to cover the leaf surface from excess light.
With your plants I'd first try to dim the light down to 350-450ppfd which would result in about 30-40DLI with 18/6 or 20/4 light cycle. And start working way up from there. OR try adding some more blue light eg. CFL's for richer spectrum.
Our LED boards are mass products made in China. Indeed they're very strong fixtures, but the spectrum is not best designed for all plants.
Hope this helps at all! 🙂 If you've got any further questions don't hesitate to reply here or send me a DM.
- Verb
@Verbalist,
Maybe a flush may help,
flush the pots,and start with your new feeding schedule, just keep the EC low.
Sometimes it really depends on the phenotypes, you're right.
Give her 1 day to recovery at least if you gonna flush.
Wish you the best with your grow buddy 👍
Hi @PremiumBudsEU and thanks for the reply, really appreciate it.
Thats exactly what I've been trying for the past two days. (The plants are actually on day 57, today 6/1/2022 - haven't uploaded everything yet) Made a new lighter feed mix and ending EC was 1.3
So can't really tell if the tip/margin burn still continues, but for sure the leaves are now losing the green shades which happens IMO interveinal. And that would prob indicate in Magnesium def (they only getting about 35ppm of Mg now as lowered Remo nutes down to 1ml/L and everything in 1:1)
I knew Mg def could show up as theres only 1ml/L CalMag. And can't rise the Mg ppms much as it will then block Ca..
And then if I'd up only CalMag dose to 1.5-2ml/L then the whole mix heavily N based.
I'll try to upload the rest of the pics later today to show up how it looks now.
Lol these are for sure the hardest phenos I've grown. Well just gotta keep tryin 😅
@Verbalist,
If you feeding multiple times a day, lower the EC to 1-1.3 bruh 😎
Sometimes you don't need to push to max.
I had the same problem with zkittles on my coco grow , i lowered the EC from 1.8 to 1.3 -1.0, was feeding 3-4 times a day
Hi @XII_XII_EarlyRaver and thanks for stoppin by.
Yeah I know right, frustrating! 😅
And yeah they look a lot happier again when RH stays low between 45-55%.
Humidity quickly messes up VPD.. And the mold would be the last thing we want, hah right? 🤞
Verbalist
