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NegotiatedBubble NegotiatedBubble
2 years ago
       Grow Goals Week 3 of Flower ‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾ 🌦️ VPD of 1.2-1.5 kPa for Early Flower 🌙 Diurnal Temp Difference of 10°F / 5°C 🔆 Maximum Light Infiltration 🔆 Maintain DLI at 40 (Daily Light Integral) for Early Flower 🚫 No Mycorrhizae 🚜 Microbes 🚜 Even Defoliation Across Plants 🔎 Pest Inspection 🔎 Nutrient Deficiency Inspection 🔎 Plant Happiness Inspection 🔎 Note Growth Response _____________________________________          🌦️  Lung Room VPD Adjustment    ‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾ My Lung Room conditions were never set for flowering VPD. I have increased the lung room temperature controller to 77°F / 25°C.    The ambient temperature has warmed up a bit and today the Lung Room fan was having trouble keeping up. I will continue to watch the temp / RH for the lung room and will make environmental changes as I go.  The good news is that the canopy has overgrown a bit and I will be reducing the light intensity (and thus the heat output) to cool things off. Removing the carbon filter may also be attempted as this will improve the airflow.           🚜  Crazy Stretch Last Week    ‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾ Last week saw a crazy amount of early flower stretch. I am utilizing my "curl around" LST technique to reduce the height of the nodes. The canopy will look awful for a few days, but it's for the best.     LST "Curl Around" Technique   https://growdiaries.com/diaries/165223-grow-journal-by-negotiatebubble#gallery=6911387    I received the clones without any labeling, but #2 and #6 are noticeably shorter than the others. This indicates they’re slower growing than the other clones and are likely the same set of genetics.        🚜  No More Mycorrhizae    ‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾ I have stopped adding Mycorrhizae. A high phosphorus environment halts fungal germination (Jeff Lowenfels, “Teaming with Fungi: The Organic Grower's Guide to Mycorrhizae”).         🔆  No Far-Red (IR) Light During Early Flower    ‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾ I have covered up the Far-Red (IR) diodes on my lights with electrical tape. They will stay covered until mid flower to minimize the stretching that early flower brings. The ratio of Red photons to Far-Red light is what activates the plant’s shade avoidance system (stem elongation).

   Check out Week 8 for details on why I do this.         🔎  Pest Inspection    ‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾ I am enjoying being pest free since closing the lung room door. I will continue to use yellow sticky traps to monitor for any infestation.       🔎  Nutrient Deficiency Inspection    ‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾ No signs of deficiencies or toxicities.      🔎  Plant Happiness Inspection    ‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾ The plants look great. No visual signs of stress and very vigorous.      ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________      Fabric pots to prevent root binding.   I am taking the Syn-ganics approach. Using soil with microbes + mycorrhizae added to the nutes. Mycorrhizae will be phased out during flowering as the high phosphorus environment halts fungal germination (Teaming with Fungi: The Organic Grower's Guide to Mycorrhizae by Jeff Lowenfels)   Enzymatic (Sensizym) will assist in breaking down dead root material in the soil. Any brand enzymatic that can break down cellulose will do just fine.   Agsil16H Potassium Silicate is pre-mixed at 148g per 1 gallon of water. Silica will aid plant strength/structure and also make the plants taste terrible to pests. As a side note, plants with too much nitrogen input taste sweet and delicious to pests!   Bacillus Thuringiensis subspecies Israelensis (Bti) (aka Mosquito Dunks) solution is added to the nutes to kill any larvae based pests such as gnats. Mixing Mosquito Bits into the soil is also a great idea.   Seaweed Bottled Mix Ingredients (NOT an endorsement. I purchased this with my own money) ‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾ - Ecklonia Maxima Kelp - Fish Hydrolysate - Blackstrap Molasses - Humic Acid / Fulvic Acid - Select Amino Acids (L-Alanine, L-Arginine, L-Aspartic, L-Cystine, L-Glutamic Acid, L-Glycine,    L-Histidine, L-Isoleucine, L-Leucine, L-Lysine, L-Methionine, L-Phenylalanine, L-Proline,    L-Threonine, L-Serine, L-Tryptophan, L-Tyrosine, L-Valine) - Calcium Phosphate - Arcanite - Sugars - Yucca Extract - Tryptic Soy Agar - Plant Hormones, Plant Growth Stimulators and Vitamins (Auxins, Cytokinins, Gibberellins,    Abscisic Acid (ABA), Adenine, Indole Acetic Acid (IAA), Adenosine, Zeatin, A (Carotene),    B1, B12, C, D, E, K, Biotin, Niacin, Choline, Pantothene, Folic Acid, Folinic Acid) ________________________________________________________________________________    I Build My Own Custom Grow LEDs https://growdiaries.com/diaries/165481-grow-journal-by-negotiatedbubble   Custom Built Modified Grow Tent Frame https://growdiaries.com/diaries/165474-grow-journal-by-negotiatedbubble   Custom Built Watering Table https://growdiaries.com/diaries/165482-grow-journal-by-negotiatedbubble   VPD Chart and Calculator spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Dta8AptwIIgo728nAu4l9acrWYWPdrljjV4uzXwGJ0Q/edit?usp=sharing   My Custom Nutrient Spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1grolLVrJLQVSdK7sdnR7dS86axWIzDgW1iWWZIFHhiA/edit?usp=sharing        
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NegotiatedBubble
NegotiatedBubblecommentedweek 12 years ago
Thanks Cyrus. Thanks Resinus. This is probably my 9th of 10th harvest, experience-wise. With so much BroScience™️ still floating around, I always like to question why when I do something in my grow space. I spent about 4 month straight listening to grow podcasts while doing food deliveries and also research a lot in my spare time. I have hammered out a rough process for myself and figured time to post what I have so far. Teaming with Microbes is a great fucking book. Bruce Bugbee is THE authority on how photons/wavelength/etc interact with Cannabis.
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDudecommentedweek 22 years ago
Hey mate, loving the detail in text. I enjoy reading as I find it more informative than photos. The photos for me are the result or the metric or measure, the text is the subject at hand. :) I also like your invention with your own made kit, something I find inspiring. Can you tell us a little about your past growing experience?
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDudecommented2 years ago
@Ezzjaybruh, It's wonderful to hear you inspired to write more... I share your frustrations mentioned and will not elaborate for obvious reasons.
Ezzjaybruh
Ezzjaybruhcommented2 years ago
@UnorthadoxDude, after reading this.. makes me want to add more to my diaries than I have been lately. I just have got a bad taste in my mouth with this site of late, for many reasons I won’t go into here.. but I don’t realize ppl might be looking at my diaries for specifics to learn..
NegotiatedBubble
NegotiatedBubblecommented2 years ago
I was searching other people's public google drives files for VPD charts. I found a copy of the pulse grow VPD chart that someone apparently converted to a Google Sheets Spreadsheet. Very nice. VPD Chart https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1M9jGhBA0lc2S8NEsq3q_6Mkpd3yJwedSZ3kfxuK0ZVI/edit?usp=sharing
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gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimecommentedweek 52 years ago
Very detailed diary. Good read. Good much with the rest of her!
NegotiatedBubble
NegotiatedBubblecommented2 years ago
Thanks for that @gottagrowsometime. I trashed most of my grow equipment before moving to California and am reinventing my environmental control due to the change in local climate.
MedicineMaker
MedicineMakercommentedweek 52 years ago
Nice LST work! I'm really enjoying reading about the details of your grow setup, very informative and helpful! 👍 Thank you my friend!
GreenGlowes
GreenGlowescommentedweek 22 years ago
Good luck with your gro! 😎
Cyrusdavirus
Cyrusdaviruscommentedweek 12 years ago
Sounds like you have done some homework and the newbie title is just because you just started on Growdiaries. Well welcome to the neighborhood enjoy Great looking youngsters 👍 happy growing 😎🌴
amazongrow
amazongrowcommentedweek 142 years ago
wow, this an artist's diary. at first I kinda went this path but now I'm so lazy and mostly update the pics and give the viewers an overview of the week... this is much better, thank you and keep it that way! btw, nice girls... they look lovely and I would not worry about any deficiency at this stage, most of the pics I have seen seems to be senescense related. However, the space looks crowdy, you got to watch out for mold and air circulation very closely, but the new dehumidifier will help I guess. I would recommend less plants and mainlines... they get very big and horizontal spread also thriving on the stress! good luck from Brazil! =)
amazongrow
amazongrowcommented2 years ago
@NegotiatedBubble, thanks for the tip. I have started adding silicate this grow and had no issue with mold or mildew I would say, with the addOn of an AC during 35+ days of flowering. Got myself a 240W Quantum Bar now and this next grow I hope to get some much more potent buds with my new AC during flowering... Hope your new setup fixes any issues. You deserve it, very well orgnized fellow. Congrats! Tchau, do Brazil!
NegotiatedBubble
NegotiatedBubblecommented2 years ago
@amazongrow, I live next to a cold water bay and see 68°F / 20°C with 60-70% RB days, and then 50°F / 10°C with 80-90% RH at nights. Typical A/C's are not very good at humidity control when it comes to indoor growing. This applies to drying room conditions as well. In that case, I need very cold + 60% RH, but the A/C running that much will dry the air out about 4 days into my drying session. Previously, I ran small humidifiers in my drying room after that 4 day mark. I will be tweaking this for my new climate. I reduced the LGR Dehu to 40% and managed to get the tent down to 55%. I also defoliated much of the plant to insure against mildew issues. I am going to overlay some cheap vinyl flooring on top of the existing wood floors. This should cut down the amount outside humidity entering the room. If you are not supplementing with Silica, then start now. Silica prevents a lot of mildew diseases such as Botrytis.
amazongrow
amazongrowcommented2 years ago
@NegotiatedBubble, you have a lung room? a room for air conditiong RH and stuff before sending to the tent? that should be awesome! what are your conditions on the outside world? As I grow in the Amazon, the humidity here is almost 95% outside most of the year (lots of rivers, trees, rain, etc).. once I thought about getting a lung room, but still I had to deal with the temperatures (28C almost all year around).... this time around I have used an AC from day 35+ of flower and the results were just fucking amazing! Having said that, fighting climate is a bitch and its fucking hard! =/ But as you are all organized, I believe its a battle you will win! Congrats, bro!
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Ultraviolet
Ultravioletcommentedweek 162 years ago
Loving the info, veritable bank of knowledge you are Negotiated bubble. Making your own LeDs , now that's interesting! Right up my alley. Not now though, my ass is broke from previous ideas :)
NegotiatedBubble
NegotiatedBubblecommented2 years ago
@Ultraviolet, a lot of these new "Amazon" lights still do not have the Samsung LM301H diodes. The newer "LM301H EVO" diodes are not for beginners due to missing red spectrum (have to supplement red diodes separately). I only expect to see EVO in commercial setups. All the more reason to build my own!
Canna96
Canna96commentedweek 62 years ago
Thats some of the best LST I have ever seen, nice work brother!
NegotiatedBubble
NegotiatedBubblecommented2 years ago
@Canna96, thanks for that. My even flowering canopy alway looks like screenless-scrog toward the end. Looking forward to posting some flowering pics soon.
Wastent91
Wastent91commentedweek 18a year ago
Yuor work are amazing for me! Yuo are a specialist in all of his part of this miracolous indoor cannabis grow! Thank yuo to exist and follow up toghether yuor ability! Thank full for all! 🙏👊😽😼😺🧑‍🌾😻💖💖
yourbestbud
yourbestbudcommentedweek 17a year ago
I like the tip on the cooking spray definitely gonna do that when my first harvest is ready. Your buds are looking amazing!
Qutro
Qutrocommentedweek 18a year ago
Those nugs look yummy.👌
HydroHerb420
HydroHerb420commentedweek 18a year ago
Wow. This is another level. So much detail. Congratulations 💚💚
Zengrower
Zengrowercommentedweek 182 years ago
Those buds sure have bag appeal, very nice 👊
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimecommentedweek 132 years ago
Nice diary
Terp1
Terp1commentedweek 122 years ago
Ich wünsche dir eine hervorragende Ernte. Ich finde deine Arbeit beeindruckend. 💪
Terp1
Terp1commentedweek 102 years ago
Wahnsinn.... einfach nur wahnsinn 😍
resimax
resimaxcommentedweek 12 years ago
Good luck and happy growing! 😎
WhiteEdge
WhiteEdgecommentedweek 162 years ago
Excellent diary , very informative. Harvest looking insane, those buds 😋
WhiteEdge
WhiteEdgecommenteda year ago
@NegotiatedBubble, It make wonder, i start injecting co2 from last grow and i going to continue with it..
NegotiatedBubble
NegotiatedBubblecommented2 years ago
@WhiteEdge, not a bad yield considering there is not any CO2 injection. Next flower will have CO2.
MedicineMaker
MedicineMakercommentedweek 172 years ago
Looks like congratulations are in order bro! 👏 Awesome work and the buds look rock solid! 👏 Thank you for all the harvesting tips as well, I'll definitely try out the PAM spray, I was using rubbing alcohol... Good points as well on the wet trimming 🙏 I'll be using what I learned from you on my 2 current grows. Best of luck on the drying and curing my friend! 👈
MedicineMaker
MedicineMakercommented2 years ago
@NegotiatedBubble, Every grow, we be better 👊 Your harvest is beautiful one. 👏 Thank you for sharing the book, it looks like a good read. I've been wanting to check out Ed's Cannabis Growers Handbook as well. Happy drying and curing 👈
NegotiatedBubble
NegotiatedBubblecommented2 years ago
@MedicineMaker, thanks! I learned a ton this time around and was glad to share it. I ran across the below harvesting book and was able to check out the digital version though my local library. The book has a lot of useless "filler", but still a great read toward the end.     Marijuana Harvest: How to Maximize Quality and Yield in Your Cannabis Garden, by Ed Rosenthal, David Downs