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Second Generation Genetics - Indigo Diesel
Strain
LED/240W
Light
LED/240W
Light
Indoor
Room Type
Expanded Clay
Grow medium
Other
Grow medium
Grow Conditions
Week 1
Vegetation
5.08
cm
inch
Height
24 hrs
Light Schedule
7+ conditions after
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Nutrients
ml/l
ml/gal
tsp/gal
Fulvic Acid
0.78 ml/l
B-1, Zinc, Iron, Manganese
0.52 ml/l
Iron Chelate
0.13 ml/l
8+ nutrients after
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geeseeds geeseeds
3 months ago
At least three distinct phenotypes. Too many mycos too soon post germination, cotyledons infected - foliar spray of copper octanoate to resolve. The worst of the bunch crinkled (photo 5 - virus?) and was culled. High PPM not helping here, but this one bucket fill will veg from seedling to flip.
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Grow Questions
geeseeds
geeseedsstarted grow question 3 months ago
How to continue to treat this brown slime? The only organics I use are chelating agents. I've sanitized media, buckets, tried benny tea, Mykos WP. Now there is 20 PPM sodium hypochlorite in one bucket, tons of Mykos WP in another, 'tea' from my planted aquarium in the last.
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gottagrowsometimeanswered grow question 3 months ago
Hey so it has nothing to do with it hsv8ng organic nutrients in water It's that you have soo many.. and if they are dif brands, you need to make sure they work together well wit water.. That slime is the 1st of many issues using wat u are. Far too much . Less is more with growing in water . Low water temps is needed and you can run bacteria. If not you need to run a sterile system. That's using h202 to kill any bad bacteria from the roots that gets into the water if the temp gets to warm. The roots are white. It's a young plant. So organics isn't ur issue yet. It's dif nutrients not binding well
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oldskoolkool
oldskoolkoolweek 1
They say you want microbes from as many different places as possible as there's 1000s of different types and most products have several. I use great white myself but I make a lot of compost tea and add soil and roots from under the tree in the garden.
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oldskoolkool
oldskoolkoolweek 1
They say you want microbes from as many different places as possible as there's 1000s of different types and most products have several. I use great white myself but I make a lot of compost tea and add soil and roots from under the tree in the garden.
geeseeds
geeseeds
@oldskoolkool, Yea that's why I started with the plant success which has a nice variety and even tried my nice healthy planted aquarium water that runs on local tap (this would be similar to your roots but for the water medium). No issues with either of these solutions in the past but I'm running the apartment very warm this summer and something just took off, ostensibly from the plant success tea. In DWC with salts there's not even a nutritional need for the bennies (no organics to break down) nor a decent substrate upon which they could grow (no soil). We are just trying to keep the roots safe, but we risk suffocating the roots as they are the only place for things to grow. So I totally agree about the variety for soil and tried that here but it's not for the warmer water in DWC (where I won't waste energy on cooling it). I'm going to try the endo (inside) monoculture Bacillus amyloliquefaciens and see if that one product can do it alone, for the sake of my dollar and simplicity, then add the arbuscular (penetrates outside to inside) Mykos WP (Glomus intradices AKA Rhizophagus irregularis) if necessary then the Orca. The Mykos WP grows and grows fast but is benign, wasting nutrients but not hurting the plant. Orca is all arbuscular and endo. Recharge is similar but adds trichoderma to break down cellulose (the other dead bennies) and includes organic nutes that would be better used in soil (but still no ectos which would cause pathology in water). So it's okay to have an overgrowth of arbusclar mycos in water since they will still deliver nutes inside the roots. Not ok to have an overgrowth of ectos. And the endos are where they belong. And you don't want an overgrowth of anything but weed.
oldskoolkool
oldskoolkoolweek 1
Have you identified the living creature?.All the microbes are water specific I guess?Dwc is one of the few things Iv never done.I watched my friend have untold trouble with his.Very sensitive system and things go down hill so fast.I know the yields are great but I think Im too lazy,lol.What make is the system as you could always ask them.These companies are pretty helpful for the most part as a lot of them use their own products.A friend in weed is a friend in deed as the saying goes.Is the tea ready made?
geeseeds
geeseeds
@oldskoolkool, Looks like an external Rhizopogon spp. / Rhizopogus infection - thanks for the idea :) This is probably because I used bennies meant for soil in DWC. The tea was https://plantsuccessorganics.com/products/soluble which contains 4 spp. of Rhizopogon. I'll stick to the Mykos WP until it's gone, then go for a more specific culture for water as a medium.
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oldskoolkool
oldskoolkoolweek 1
I looked at mykos and it just syas all mediums as far as I could see,are you sure its good for water.I know plant success have seperate products for water.It may be worth checking out what they say about their Orca product and how it differs and what makes it water specific.Just a though.
geeseeds
geeseeds
@oldskoolkool, In DWC the Mykos doesn't do much but grow too fast and block out the bad stuff. Was hoping for a better balance with the plant success soil tea but something like Hydroguard or the Orca you mentioned would have been best.
resi_max
resi_maxweek 0
Good luck and happy growing! 😁
geeseeds
geeseedsweek 10
That feeling when you photograph your light with the plant and realize you've been flowering without the flower switch.
geeseeds
geeseedsweek 1
3 days later (week 1 day 7) and the slime was back. Rinsed medium and roots, bleached buckets air stones and air lines, soaked roots in Mykos WP. Dosed 2 buckets with 20 ppm sodium hypochlorite, 1 bucket with 1 tbsp/gal Mykos WP, 1 bucket with a quart of water from my planted discus aquarium. Bleached and aired out the tent. May the best slime killer win! Reduced nutrient concentration to 1000 PPM :/
geeseeds
geeseedsweek 1
Forgot the bennies in the buckets week 1 :/ Brown slime, chlorosis everywhere. Rinsed medium, bleached buckets, refilled with benny tea and a large dose of Mykos WP.
geeseeds
geeseedsweek 0
Mom smells like a fucking blueberry smoothie. Dad was a monster.