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100 Watt with Samsung diodes Light Emitting Diodes/100W
Elite
VEG
100 Watt with Samsung diodes Light Emitting Diodes/100W
Elite
Tent
4 x 4 Grow Tent with Mylar
GROW
Fan
Oscillating Fan
Tall
Coco Coir
Perlite
Worm castings Other
Elixir
Indoor
Room Type
Topping
weeks 5
LST
weeks 9-10
19 L
Pot Size
0.76 L
Watering
Start at 10 Week
G
Germination
2mo ago
1/7
Nutrients 2
Charge
1.3 mll
Life-Cycle
5.21 mll
Kirsten Hey friends! ๐งก I am starting this grow thanks to James at Royal Queen Seeds!
I finally have the ultimate seeds to experiment with, and you know I'm beyond excited ๐
F1 Hybrids, as you might know, are identical phenotypes produced by crossing from In Bred Lines (IBL's). This ensures that every plant is the same, and thus, experimenting with these will hopefully produce some very valuable and interesting results.
This is a dream come true for me, as I'm endlessly curious for all knowledge, especially biology.
So, with that being said, I give many thanks to James and RQS for providing me with these Orion F1 seeds to play with!
For these experiments, I am making 2 diaries on advice from some of you lovely folks!
It was decided that it would be easier to document each plant separately. This will be a grow with mostly dry amendments by Ecothrive and all organic.
(Living soil custom mix).
The second plant will receive liquid nutrients, mainly Greenleaf Nutrients. (Substrate only containing canna coco, worm castings, and perlite.)
So make sure to check out the other diary. Otherwise, the experiments are rather pointless ๐
Come along on this one, I have very high hopes! ๐โ๏ธ๐๐๐ฑ๐
11.5.25:
The seeds were planted, and watered in with dechlorinated water PH'd to 6.4 with a tiny amount of Ecothrive Biosys.
This is the soil mix I used. 5 gallon / 19l pot contained approximately;
โก Canna Coco (7l)
๏ธโก Perlite (5l)
โก Worm Castings (2l)
๏ธโก Coffee Grounds (1/2 cup)
โก Activated Carbon Pellets. (1 cup) at base of pot.
๏ธโก Recharged soil from previous grow (pre-amended with Ecothrive Life Cycle and Ecothrive Charge) (4.5l)
โก Dry Amendments โก
โ Ground Cinnamon
โ Diatomaceous Earth
โ Ecothrive Charge
โ Ecothrive Life Cycle
โ RHS Mycorrhizal Fungi granules
โ Great White Mycorrhizal Fungi blend
โงโง Watered the seed in, with dechlorinated water PH'd to 6.4 and Ecothrive Biosys 1/16 tsp/l.
I'll be back when we see some leaves! ๐ ๐๐ฑโ๏ธ๐ โงโง
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Used method
Directly In Substrate
Germination Method
1
Week 1. Vegetation
2mo ago
1/4
7.62 cm
Height
20 hrs
Light Schedule
26 ยฐC
Day Air Temp
6.0
pH
No Smell
Smell
545 PPM
TDS
55 %
Air Humidity
30 ยฐC
Solution Temp
21 ยฐC
Substrate Temp
24 ยฐC
Night Air Temp
18.93 L
Pot Size
Kirsten 15.5.25:
It's been 48 hours after planting, and we have 2 extraordinarily identical seedlings! ๐ฑ๐ฑ
This time germinating, I did not use the humidity domes or spay the leaves.
I adjusted the dehumidifier to around 50% RH.
TEMP: 26ยฐC.
Soil PH: 7.0
Soil temp: 20ยฐC
Water PH: 6.0
Water about 20mls 3x a day.
I used plain, dechlorinated water PH'd to 6.0.
I'm very excited to see how we go! ๐ฑ๐ค๐โ๏ธ๐๐
18.5.25:
The seedling ๐ฑ is looking nice and strong.
Yesterday, I started watering around the perimeter of the pot to help the ecosystem of the soil get started.
I'm watering with plain, dechlorinated, PH'd water.
PPM: 545
PH: 6.0-6.5
The F1 Hybrid experiment has thus far produced identical results.
The experiment compares two different styles of growing;
one using Organic Dry Amendments the whole way through seed to harvest.
The other plant, seed to harvest, will be receiving Liquid Nutrients.
Thanks for following along on this grow ๐๐๐๐โ๏ธ๐ฑ
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Week 2. Vegetation
2mo ago
1/4
11.43 cm
Height
20 hrs
Light Schedule
26 ยฐC
Day Air Temp
6.5
pH
No Smell
Smell
545 PPM
TDS
55 %
Air Humidity
33 ยฐC
Solution Temp
21 ยฐC
Substrate Temp
23 ยฐC
Night Air Temp
18.93 L
Pot Size
121.92 cm
Lamp Distance
Kirsten Orion F1 Organic.
24.5.25:
The pot was still quite heavy, so to ensure aeration of the roots, I decided not to water for several more days.
The plants are at what I call "the purgatory stage". Not much has happened. So I'm not expecting to see proper growth for another week.
Just watering when necessary, to avoid mould etc.
They should start being interesting soon! ๐
Thanks for stopping by ๐๐ฑ๐ค๐โ๏ธ๐
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Week 3. Vegetation
2mo ago
1/4
13.97 cm
Height
24 hrs
Light Schedule
26 ยฐC
Day Air Temp
6.3
pH
No Smell
Smell
545 PPM
TDS
55 %
Air Humidity
30 ยฐC
Solution Temp
21 ยฐC
Substrate Temp
23 ยฐC
Night Air Temp
18.93 L
Pot Size
121.92 cm
Lamp Distance
Kirsten Orion F1 Organic dry amendments grow.
31.5.25:
Well, this week has been pretty dull ๐ I was hoping to have something to report on by now. I guess maybe next week ๐ค
I've just been keeping the pot watered. I watered twice this week, with about 2l of dechlorinated water PH'd to 6.5. Once;
I used 2ml/2l of Ecothrive Trace, the other watering I used .15Tsp Ecothrive Biosys.
โ Xpert Nutrients PH down, up to 1ml.
โ Ecothrive Neutralise 1 drop per litre from the 1ml pipette, which is attached.
This is my dechlorinator.
I am planning on either topping or FIMing both plants. So I'm hoping that purgatory won't last much longer here ๐ค
Quite a boring update, I know, but thanks for stopping by and hanging out! ๐โ๏ธ๐๐๐ฑ
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Week 4. Vegetation
1mo ago
1/4
17.78 cm
Height
24 hrs
Light Schedule
26 ยฐC
Day Air Temp
6.3
pH
No Smell
Smell
545 PPM
TDS
55 %
Air Humidity
30 ยฐC
Solution Temp
21 ยฐC
Substrate Temp
23 ยฐC
Night Air Temp
18.93 L
Pot Size
121.92 cm
Lamp Distance
Kirsten Orion F1 Organic dry amendments grow:
This week the plant has started to show some progress.
I will top the plant soon. Now that everything is growing steadily.
8.5.25:
The plant was watered with 1ltr of dechlorinated water PH'd to 6. This may be the last watering before she's done. I added per litre;
โก 1ml Trace
โก 1/4 TSP Ecothrive Biosys
PPM: 636
PH: 6.1
Thanks for stopping by and hanging out ๐ โ๏ธ ๐ ๐ ๐ฑ
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Week 5. Vegetation
1mo ago
1/5
17.78 cm
Height
24 hrs
Light Schedule
26 ยฐC
Day Air Temp
6.3
pH
No Smell
Smell
545 PPM
TDS
55 %
Air Humidity
30 ยฐC
Solution Temp
21 ยฐC
Substrate Temp
23 ยฐC
Night Air Temp
18.93 L
Pot Size
111.76 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 1
Trace
1 mll
Kirsten Orion F1 Organic dry amendments.
She has grown well for the first time, after I topped her, she has taken to it very well. I topped the plant on the 14th. ๐
The leaves are looking a luscious, vibrant green. Overall, I'm very pleased with this recent progress.
14.6.25:
I top dressed the plant today with the following amendments;
โ 1 Tbs Ecothrive Life Cycle
โ 1 Tbs Ecothrive Charge
โ 1 Tbs Ground Cinnamon
โ 1 Tbs Diatomaceous Earth
โ 1.5 Cups Worm Castings.
This will hopefully tide me over until the end of the month, when I will top dress again.
I have just been watering with plain, dechlorinated water, PH'd to between 6.1-6.5.
โ Xpert Nutrients PH down, up to 1ml.
โ Ecothrive Neutralise 1 drop per litre from the 1ml pipette, which is attached.
This is my dechlorinator.
I'm watering approximately 2ltrs twice a week or as necessary. She has started to drink more.
Thank you for checking out my diary and hanging out ๐๐โ๏ธ๐๐ค
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Used techniques
Topping
Technique
6
Week 6. Vegetation
22d ago
1/8
38.1 cm
Height
24 hrs
Light Schedule
30 ยฐC
Day Air Temp
6.3
pH
No Smell
Smell
545 PPM
TDS
55 %
Air Humidity
30 ยฐC
Solution Temp
24 ยฐC
Substrate Temp
26 ยฐC
Night Air Temp
18.93 L
Pot Size
45.72 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 2
Trace
1 mll
Biosys
1.3 mll
Kirsten ๐ ORION F1 ORGANIC DRY AMENDMENTS ๐
The plant has well exceeded my ๐ ORION F1 LIQUID NUTRIENTS
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Week 7. Vegetation
21d ago
1/5
38.1 cm
Height
24 hrs
Light Schedule
30 ยฐC
Day Air Temp
6.3
pH
Weak
Smell
545 PPM
TDS
55 %
Air Humidity
30 ยฐC
Solution Temp
24 ยฐC
Substrate Temp
27 ยฐC
Night Air Temp
18.93 L
Pot Size
45.72 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 2
Trace
1 mll
Biosys
1.3 mll
Kirsten ๐ ORION F1 ORGANIC DRY AMENDMENTS ๐
The plant has well exceeded my ๐ ORION F1 LIQUID NUTRIENTS ๐
So far really happy, has taken very well to the topping.
She has shown good growth which I'm very pleased to see.
This is what I watered this week:
18.6.25:
I watered with 1.2L of dechlorinated water PH'd to 6.1 and containing the following nutrients per 2 litres;
โก 0.5 ml Ecothrive Trace
โก 1/4 Tsp Ecothrive Biosys
PH: 6.1
PPM: 373
23.6.25
I gave 3 ltrs of dechlorinated water PH'd to 6.3 with no nutrients.
PPM: 307
PH: 6.3
28.6.25:
I watered with 2ltrs of dechlorinated water PH'd to 6.5 and containing the following nutrients per 2 litres;
โก 1/4 Tsp Ecothrive Biosys
โก 2ml Ecothrive Trace
PH: 6.5
PPM: 418
Thanks for stopping in this week ๐๐๐โ๏ธ๐ฑ
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Week 8. Flowering
15d ago
1/8
38.1 cm
Height
24 hrs
Light Schedule
30 ยฐC
Day Air Temp
6.5
pH
Weak
Smell
424 PPM
TDS
55 %
Air Humidity
30 ยฐC
Solution Temp
21 ยฐC
Substrate Temp
24 ยฐC
Night Air Temp
18.93 L
Pot Size
45.72 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 2
Trace
1 mll
Biosys
1.3 mll
Kirsten ๐ ORGANIC ORION F1 ๐
3.6.25:
The plant was watered with 2ltrs of dechlorinated water PH'd to 6.3 containing the following nutrients;
โก 2ml Ecothrive Trace
โก 1/4 TSP Ecothrive Biosys
PH: 6.3
PPM: 418
With an additional 2l of dechlorinated water PH'd to 6.5 containing the following nutrients;
โก 3ml Ecothrive Trace
โก 1/4 TSP Ecothrive Biosys
PH: 6.5
PPM:424
This week has been productive and we are now in flower! I've top dressed the plant again to prepare for the flowering stage, and have started LST by tying down the 2 main tops.
6.6.25:
The plant was top dressed today.
Top dress:
๐ 2 Cups Worm Castings
๐ 1 TBSP Ecothrive Life Cycle
๐ 1 TBSP Ecothrive Charge
๐ 1 TBSP Ground Cinnamon
This was watered in with 2ltrs of dechlorinated water PH'd to 6.3 containing;
โก 3ml Ecothrive Trace
โก 1/4 TSP Ecothrive Biosys
PH: 6.3
PPM: 422.
Thanks for checking in this week and hanging out ๐ โ๏ธ ๐ ๐ ๐ฑ
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Week 9. Flowering
9d ago
1/6
38.1 cm
Height
24 hrs
Light Schedule
30 ยฐC
Day Air Temp
6.7
pH
Normal
Smell
400 PPM
TDS
55 %
Air Humidity
32 ยฐC
Solution Temp
24 ยฐC
Substrate Temp
27 ยฐC
Night Air Temp
18.93 L
Pot Size
0.76 L
Watering Volume
45.72 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 2
Trace
1 mll
Biosys
1.3 mll
Kirsten We are in flower for this ๐ ORION F1 AUTOFLOWER GROW ๐
The Organic Dry Amendments plant has really grown tall, I should have trained the plant earlier, aside from topping, which I did early on.
I LST'D the plant yesterday on the 11.7.25, I tied down the branches with soft garden twine to the grommets I added to the pots.
As the plants have been left for too long, they have grown tall, and now it is more difficult to train them.
๐ ORION LIQUID NUTRIENTS PLANT ๐
I LST'D on the 11.7.25 as above. This one is starting to stretch from flowering and had gotten taller as with the other plant.
Let's see how the training goes. They are looking a bit straggly. So hopefully, they will fill out with some more leaves and flowers.
You can check out the other diary to see how I cared for each plant, and the comparison if you're interested ๐
๐ ORION F1 ORGANIC DRY AMENDMENTS ๐
Here is what I fed this week.
8.7.25:
I watered with 2ltrs of dechlorinated water PH'd to 6.6 and containing the following nutrients;
๐ 2ml Ecothrive Trace
๐ 1/2 TSP Ecothrive Biosys
PH: 6.6
PPM: 400.
10.7.25:
I watered again today with 2ltrs of dechlorinated water PH'd to 6.7 and containing the following nutrients;
๐ 2ml Ecothrive Trace
๐ 1/2 TSP Ecothrive Biosys
PH: 6.7
PPM: 400.
Thank you for stopping by and hanging out this week.
It's becoming a nice little community here, and I really appreciate everyone being so kind, respectful, and caring ๐๐โ๏ธ๐๐๐ฑ
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Used techniques
LST
Technique
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Week 10. Flowering
1d ago
1/4
101.6 cm
Height
24 hrs
Light Schedule
26 ยฐC
Day Air Temp
6.6
pH
Normal
Smell
340 PPM
TDS
55 %
Air Humidity
32 ยฐC
Solution Temp
21 ยฐC
Substrate Temp
25 ยฐC
Night Air Temp
18.93 L
Pot Size
0.76 L
Watering Volume
45.72 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 2
Trace
1 mll
Biosys
1.3 mll
Kirsten This week the plant is focusing on building and developing buds, they are stacking up nicely on the stems with nice internodal stacking.
I believe we have stopped vertical growth now, and so the focus on bud building has increased.
Here is what I watered this week.
14.7.25:
I watered 2ltrs of dechlorinated water PH'd to 6.4 containing the following nutrients;
๐ 2ml Ecothrive Trace
๐ 1/4 TSP Ecothrive Biosys
PH: 6.4
PPM: 376
15.7.25:
I watered with 2ltrs of dechlorinated water PH'd to 6.4, containing the following nutrients;
๐ 2ml Ecothrive Trace
๐ 1/4 TSP Ecothrive Biosys
PH: 6.4
PPM: 365
16.7.25:
I watered with 2ltrs of dechlorinated water PH'd to 6.7, containing the following nutrients;
๐ 3ml Ecothrive Trace
๐ 1/4 TSP Ecothrive Biosys
PH: 6.7
PPM: 360
18.7.25:
I top dressed with the following organic dry amendments;
As a base for the dry amendments I used:
๐งก Worm Castings - 1 Cup
๐งก Coco - 1 Cup
๐งก Perlite - 1/2 Cup
Dry Amendments:
๐ Ecothrive Life Cycle 1TBS
๐ Ecothrive Bloom 1 TBS
๐ Ecothrive Charge 1TBS
๐ Diatomaceous Earth 1TBS
I watered this in with 2ltrs of dechlorinated water PH'd to 6.7 with 2ml Ecothrive Trace.
PH: 6.7
PPM: 359.
29.7.25:
I watered with 2ltrs of dechlorinated water PH'd to 6.5 with:
๐ 1ml Trace.
PH: 6.5
PPM: 340.
Thanks for stopping by this week and hanging out ๐ โ๏ธ ๐ ๐ ๐ฑ ๐ ๐