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Forum Stomper x NCH

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9d ago
LED Grow Light Light Emitting Diodes/1200W
Meishile
Meishile
Light
LED Grow Lamp Light Emitting Diodes/1200W
Meishile
60x60x180cm
Boystro
DF-100
Da Fengliang
Homeland Soil
Vitax Perlite
Indoor
Room Type
ScrOG
weeks 5
7 liters
Pot Size
1.25 liters
Watering
Start at 5 Week
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Germination
1mo ago
StanislausGrowman Germinated the seed between two damp paper towels. Within 6 days, there was a good taproot showing, and I transferred it to a 50-50 perlite/soil mixture. This is my second-ever grow attempt- the first attempt was mostly successful, but I've learned a lot of lessons. My intention is to train this plant to optimise yields, as the key takeaway lesson from my first attempt was how randomly a plant can grow when it's untrained! I have a scrog net ready to go, and will be reporting my progress here as I go.
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Grow Questions
StanislausGrowman
StanislausGrowmanstarted grow question 1mo ago
Obviously I'm a long way away from making a call on this, but since these are autoflowers, should I be Mainlining or Scrogging them to get the best results? I don't mind the grow taking more time than "advertised", I just want to get the best results for the plant.
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yan420
yan420answered grow question 24d ago
That's up to you and how confident you feel with your grows in general and what your target is, HST tends to stretch the Veg time by a week or two or at least that's my impression when I compare with other growers that don't train as intensively, LST works wonders as well ✌️ ♥️ Apple Fritter RQS growdiaries.com/diaries/190515-royal-queen-seeds-apple-fritter-automatic-grow-journal-by-yan402/week/1143525 Runtz Auto Kannabia growdiaries.com/diaries/235033-runtz-auto-grow-journal-by-yan402/week/1385813
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Nocone_Purple
Nocone_Purpleanswered grow question 1mo ago
For autos, I’d skip mainlining since it’s quite stressful and they don’t have enough veg time to recover properly. A light LST and maybe a gentle mini Scrog works great though it helps open the canopy, boost airflow and maximize light penetration Start training early (around day 15–20) and you’ll get great results without slowing her down too much
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Enochian
Enochiananswered grow question 1mo ago
Hi there. As a grower with 2 similar sized tents, in my experience a little LST and a scrog net would be more than adequate to create an even canopy. I grow several plants at once comprising of several different strains and without a net to tame the wild ones it would be difficult to manage them equally. Unless you particulary want to gain some experience with mainling I would employ a scrog before the stretch begins to ensure that all bud sites are receiving the same light intensity (PPFD and DLI) during flowering stage. Once you are happy with this technique then perhaps on your next grow consider mainlining. Although LST and a scrog should cover pretty much any scenario in a small tent, it is good to gain practical experience through different techniques. If you fix the net at preflower stage it will serve you better than waiting till the stretch and then trying to fold and bend unruly stems that may snap under too much pressure. I have learned this too my cost. Gentle handling and a little preparation are key. I wish you a trouble free grow dude and when in doubt ask, there is a lot of very good advice here to those willing to learn. I find a mosey through some of the historically solved questions is very educational too. 😃
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Week 1. Vegetation
25d ago
5 cm
Height
16 hrs
Light Schedule
22 °C
Day Air Temp
7.0
pH
No Smell
Smell
61 %
Air Humidity
0 °C
Solution Temp
20 °C
Night Air Temp
7 liters
Pot Size
1 liters
Watering Volume
41 cm
Lamp Distance
StanislausGrowman A nice bit of early vegetative growth this week. Was quite busy, so only had time to water, take quick snapshots, and a handful of notes.
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Week 2. Vegetation
25d ago
7 cm
Height
16 hrs
Light Schedule
22 °C
Day Air Temp
7.0
pH
No Smell
Smell
61 %
Air Humidity
0 °C
Solution Temp
19 °C
Night Air Temp
5 liters
Pot Size
1.25 liters
Watering Volume
41 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 1
Organic plant food with seaweed
3 mll
StanislausGrowman As of day 20, we look to be up to the start of our third or fourth node. She's a thirsty gal, but thriving. Keeping an eye out this week for the little node hairs that will indicate gender, and for the sprouting of a fifth node which will give me something to tackle for training.
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Week 3. Vegetation
9d ago
7 cm
Height
16 hrs
Light Schedule
22 °C
Day Air Temp
7.0
pH
No Smell
Smell
61 %
Air Humidity
0 °C
Solution Temp
19 °C
Night Air Temp
5 liters
Pot Size
1.25 liters
Watering Volume
41 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 1
Organic plant food with seaweed
3 mll
StanislausGrowman Vegetative growth proceeding apace, almost ready to begin training
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Week 4. Vegetation
9d ago
7 cm
Height
16 hrs
Light Schedule
22 °C
Day Air Temp
7.0
pH
No Smell
Smell
61 %
Air Humidity
0 °C
Solution Temp
19 °C
Night Air Temp
5 liters
Pot Size
1.25 liters
Watering Volume
41 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 1
Organic plant food with seaweed
3 mll
StanislausGrowman Late vegetative stage. Placed scrog net to begin training as branches come up through the net.
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Week 5. Flowering
9d ago
7 cm
Height
16 hrs
Light Schedule
22 °C
Day Air Temp
7.0
pH
No Smell
Smell
61 %
Air Humidity
0 °C
Solution Temp
19 °C
Night Air Temp
5 liters
Pot Size
1.25 liters
Watering Volume
41 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 2
Bloom
2 mll
Boost All Purpose Liquid Plant
1.321 mll
StanislausGrowman Switched to flowering nutrients. Bud sites have begun to form. Using a scrog net to begin training outer branches outwards, though I'm likely doing it wrong or hamfistedly!
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Grow Questions
StanislausGrowman
StanislausGrowmanstarted grow question 9d ago
Am I doing this training correctly? Or is there something different I should be doing?
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Techniques. LST
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GrowerOG
GrowerOGanswered grow question 8d ago
Hello mate, you do the training almost right, you missed the main stem that you must bend it before the other branches. I want add another tips, if you stretch too much the base of the branch you could brake it then. Good luck and happy journey!
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00110001001001111O
00110001001001111Oanswered grow question 9d ago
ooh, that's an auto? I agree with others, better to let them grow normally with some basic training to spread it out. Shouldn't hurt you though as it shouldn't stall a plant. I'd only shoot for 6-7 branches off that LST spine with an autoflower. The timing when to let the top grow vertically is a bit of a guessing game... even it's a bit behind, it will catch up to some extent. Something you'll get better at guesstimating the more you do it.
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00110001001001111Oanswered grow question 9d ago
"A" for effort? To be honest, you didnt' accomplish much. There's a bend but you aren't sharing apical dominance at all. There's still 1 growth tip taking vast majority of resources, or predictably will be doing so, if left as-is. First, have an idea of what you want out of this. How many primary colas do you want per plant? You should know this before doing it or it's just whimsy and potentially wastes a lot of your time/resources. Don't overcrowd the canopy. You only need 2-4 colas per sq ft to maximize yield. I'd suggest shooting closer to 3 than 2 or 4. This is not necessary to be exact... some of this is best decided by training methods... if topping you stick to 2-4-8-16 colas etc.. or 3-6-12 progression.. doubling each time you top the branches. So, you can't worry too much about exactly 3 or exactly 2.5 per sq ft, lol. LST gives more leeway in this regard. the point is, working backward from an endgoal makes every important decision for you automatic. you simply do what is obviously necessary. You want six? then you keep re-tying down the top until you get 6 branches. You keep manipulating apical dominance to even those 6 branhces out... you grow them into position, then flip to flower or whatever is next to reach your goal. LST - bending her over, lol Anchor the bottom of the trunk to the opposite side that you will bend the plant. This will reduce stress on roots and prevent damage. If you don't, the plant can and likely will drag itself through the medium trying to correct its posture, for lack of a better phrase. This inevitably also damages the roots a bit. With fabric pots, just make sure some tension pulls in the fabric so it doesn't lose tension later on. The plant will resist over time and exert more force than what you see initially. When you make a bend.. try to bend it in a few places very close together near the base with your hand before tying the top down. This will help form a more compact and ~90 degree type bend. Any branch at or below the bend should be pruned off. It'll be trash gauranteed. So you form it first and then tie down at top -- requires very little tension, initially, to hold it there. The plant will resist and pull against it, of course. Over time, you'll have to move that tie-down at the top to keep it level... How long depends on how many colas you want. Don't waste your time over-growing the plant. May need more than 1 tied-down depending on length.. or it will try to bow upward in middle. The goal is to even out growth across several branches. If they are level, they will get similar resources. Higher growth tips will take more than lower growth tips emenating off this level length of stem. You can even out the primary branches by manipulating their height relative to each other.. They won't be even to start, obviously. Just bending the taller ones down a couple times per day can let the others catch up - it'll spend time trying to correct itself instead of growing upward. More extreme differences you may need to temporarily tie down some taller branches for a day or two beneath what you want to grow faster to catch up. Then, release it. It takes quite a while for stem to turn rigid, so it'll correct itself if only bent down for a day or 2. You can help reshape it too by hand -- if it's weak form that, support it for a day or 2 and it'll heal stronger than it was before. You can choose to bend the plant down on an axis or between the axis of growth. So either half the branches facing down or both popping out the side. You may think the obvious asnwer is "more branches good" but again, have a plan and stick to it. More also means it's all tightly packed together. You may still need to thin it out a bit. Having them facing up and pruning off the other half facing down will usually produce enough 'base' branches to work with and more easily spread out to avoid congestion. Keep as many leaves as you can.. if they are down in the dirt, that's a good reason to remove them. ------ Some combination of LST and topping is probably best if you are growing an unusually large plant... just let the primary branches extend out far enough. Using a scrog is also very beneficial for any elaborate training. don't hesitate to mix it up... depending on the context, you may see some options are simply more efficient than others. Don't make this part of your personality.. options for training and manipulating the plant are merely tools in your kit. Apical dominance - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apical_dominance This is why anything at or below the initial LST bend is going to be trash. If it's above enough to be level or mostly level with the rest, it's fine. It doesn't have to be perfectly horizontal, but do your best.. over time it'll almost always become more of an angle upward unless really serious about keeping it's shape, lol. It's not only about height, but with initial LST, it'll mostly be all you have to consider... primary branching garners more resources than secondary branching etc... Doesn't matter what the behaviour is called.. you simply manipulate the plant as necessary to get the growth pattern you want. LST, topping, plant benders etc.. whatever gets you there the most efficient way with the least amount of wasted growth. Save your time and electricity -- the 2 biggest costs by far -- 95% of cost.
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