GSDS - New Money - RDWC
Fan
WHSP125 EC-TC
PrimaKlima
Filt
Carbocone 125 800m³/h
Contr
Tent-X
Expanded Clay
Floragard
Indoor
Room Type
HST
weeks 11
Defoliation
weeks 4-5, 9, 11
12-12
weeks 7
Start at Harvest
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Germination6mo ago
Nutrients 3
12% H2O2 Foodgrade
2 mll
CANNA Aqua Vega
2 mll
CalMag Agent
1 mll
High_And_Hydro They all germinated evenly and can begin their journey in the big system.
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Paper Towel
Germination Method
1
Week 1. Vegetation6mo ago
5 cm
Height
18 hrs
Light Schedule
24 °C
Day Air Temp
5.9
pH
No Smell
Smell
750 PPM
TDS
67 %
Air Humidity
22 °C
Solution Temp
21 °C
Night Air Temp
Nutrients 3
12% H2O2 Foodgrade
2 mll
CANNA Aqua Vega
2 mll
CalMag Agent
1 mll
High_And_Hydro Tag 8: They are evenly tall. If I had to rate them, number 2 is the strongest and number 3 is the weakest.
Tag 9: They are still the same height and haven't made any significant height gain from yesterday to today, but the leaves have gotten bigger.
Tag 10: They haven't grown in height, but the leaves have gotten bigger. They are also a bit heavy and the stems have given a little. I supported them a bit with clay pebbles and turned on the fan for a few hours, which significantly lowered the humidity. However, it doesn't seem to have bothered them, and I turned the fan off again to avoid stressing them too much.
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Week 2. Vegetation6mo ago
5 cm
Height
18 hrs
Light Schedule
24 °C
Day Air Temp
5.9
pH
No Smell
Smell
750 PPM
TDS
67 %
Air Humidity
22 °C
Solution Temp
21 °C
Night Air Temp
Nutrients 3
12% H2O2 Foodgrade
2 mll
CANNA Aqua Vega
2 mll
CalMag Agent
1 mll
High_And_Hydro Number 1 lives up to its name and is currently ahead visually.
With number 2, the root didn't grow down through the rock wool cube but came out the top instead. This has caused it to lag a bit despite its strong start. The root finally grew down or out the side of the net pot today on day 15, 3 days later than the other two.
And finally, number 3, it looked a bit strange at first, but it has pushed through and fought its way forward.
It's possible that 1 and 2 are the same pheno since they already look somewhat similar. Number 3 has slightly narrower leaves than the other two.
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Week 3. Vegetation6mo ago
5 cm
Height
18 hrs
Light Schedule
24 °C
Day Air Temp
5.9
pH
No Smell
Smell
700 PPM
TDS
67 %
Air Humidity
22 °C
Solution Temp
21 °C
Night Air Temp
Nutrients 3
12% H2O2 Foodgrade
2 mll
CANNA Aqua Vega
2 mll
CalMag Agent
1 mll
High_And_Hydro The lower oldest leaves have a few rust spots, but otherwise they look good and are growing quickly.
No. 1: She has a few spots but is the biggest.
No. 2: She is the smallest, but so far she is keeping up with the others.
No. 3: She is neck and neck with No. 1 and is only slightly less voluminous.
I have slightly reduced the EC value since the air is very dry for me at the moment, which makes the VPD quite high, leading to increased transpiration.
Additionally, I have placed a humidifier in the tent, which is controlled by the Trolmaster TentX. It is set to 60% during the day and 55% RLF at night.
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Week 4. Vegetation6mo ago
5 cm
Height
18 hrs
Light Schedule
24 °C
Day Air Temp
5.9
pH
No Smell
Smell
700 PPM
TDS
67 %
Air Humidity
22 °C
Solution Temp
21 °C
Night Air Temp
Nutrients 4
12% H2O2 Foodgrade
2 mll
Cal GG Calciumnitrat
0.5 mll
Bittersalz MgSO4 Magnesiumsulfat
0.25 mll
High_And_Hydro I swapped the Calmag agent for nutrients this week because it gives me better control over the conditions in the fertilizer. This way, I can change the Ca to Mg ratio and also influence the nitrogen content or better adapt it to the plant phase.
They accepted the first NL well, which I also expected/hoped for, as I initially kept the values roughly the same. Therefore, with correct calculation, there should not be any significant change noticeable at first, and so far the calculations are working out.
The roots look good, EC and pH values remain stable, but there are slight eagle claws visible on No.1 and No.3. They did not react to the lowering of the EC value, but did respond to the reduction of humidity, as the leaves are standing a bit tighter.
I am currently not managing the temperature very well; it is still around 22 - 23°C, which is actually too little for me. Over the weekend, it is supposed to get a bit warmer outside again, and then it will also get a bit warmer and more humid in the tent. The relative humidity is still around 30% in the apartment, and the humidifier runs almost continuously to keep the plants at about 50%.
Day 32:
Today I topped No.1 and 3, while No.2 remains as it is for now, as it is the smallest. Now all the plants are about the same height again.
Additionally, I wanted to use my new Calmag stock solution yesterday. Apparently, I miscalculated the dosage, and this was quickly noticeable at the tips and leaf tension. Therefore, I gave a new nutrient solution again last night and worked with the original powder. This morning they looked super fit again.
Then, starting today, it will be warmer outside again, which makes it much easier for me to raise the temperature in the tent a bit. It had only been around 22°C in the last few days, and there was also extremely dry air that even the humidifier could not raise sufficiently. Today they are back around 24°C and 60% relative humidity, and I feel a bit more comfortable again.
They seem to be quite hungry, as they lowered the EC value by 0.2 mS/cm from 1.4 to 1.2 mS/cm within 12 hours.
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Defoliation
Technique
5
Week 5. Vegetation5mo ago
5 cm
Height
18 hrs
Light Schedule
24 °C
Day Air Temp
5.8
pH
No Smell
Smell
650 PPM
TDS
65 %
Air Humidity
22 °C
Solution Temp
21 °C
Night Air Temp
Nutrients 4
12% H2O2 Foodgrade
2 mll
Cal GG Calciumnitrat
0.5 mll
Bittersalz MgSO4 Magnesiumsulfat
0.25 mll
High_And_Hydro So far, all 3 plants have been topped and they're all healthy, but number 2 is noticeably smaller than her two sisters.
I'm currently removing a handful of leaves daily. The temperatures outside are back to normal levels and the humidity has also normalized. This time, I've set the light very low; they're getting about 420 µmol/s/m².
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Defoliation
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Week 6. Vegetation5mo ago
5 cm
Height
18 hrs
Light Schedule
24 °C
Day Air Temp
5.8
pH
No Smell
Smell
700 PPM
TDS
65 %
Air Humidity
22 °C
Solution Temp
21 °C
Night Air Temp
Nutrients 4
12% H2O2 Foodgrade
1.25 mll
Cal GG Calciumnitrat
0.5 mll
Bittersalz MgSO4 Magnesiumsulfat
0.25 mll
High_And_Hydro Tag 42:
They are doing well so far and are all growing, but number 2 is clearly lagging behind the others, both in height and overall volume.
The other two are neck and neck in height, but number 3 has a slight edge in volume.
The tips are a bit burnt in places, especially on number 1. I’ll keep an eye on that; it doesn’t seem to be getting worse so far.
Also, I’ve placed the fans below the canopy and added an additional fan with a swing function to blow down on the plants.
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Week 7. Flowering5mo ago
12 hrs
Light Schedule
24 °C
Day Air Temp
5.8
pH
Weak
Smell
800 PPM
TDS
60 %
Air Humidity
22 °C
Solution Temp
21 °C
Night Air Temp
Nutrients 5
12% H2O2 Foodgrade
1.25 mll
Cal GG Calciumnitrat
0.5 mll
Bittersalz MgSO4 Magnesiumsulfat
0.25 mll
High_And_Hydro They have clear differences, even a blind person can see that. For me, so far, number 3 is the most interesting, as its growth is simply significantly more optimal than that of the other two. You have less work since you don't have to spread the branches, and the overall mass is also noticeably larger. That's why I've only taken cuts from number 3 for myself; they are supposed to run another round outdoors. So far, they are responding well to the homemade Calmag, but I don't think it's 100% optimal yet.
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12-12
Technique
8
Week 8. Flowering5mo ago
12 hrs
Light Schedule
25 °C
Day Air Temp
5.8
pH
Weak
Smell
800 PPM
TDS
55 %
Air Humidity
22 °C
Solution Temp
21 °C
Night Air Temp
Nutrients 5
12% H2O2 Foodgrade
1.25 mll
Cal GG Calciumnitrat
0.5 mll
Bittersalz MgSO4 Magnesiumsulfat
0.25 mll
High_And_Hydro On flowering day 7, I had to do some serious defoliation because the fan leaves just got too big.
They took it well, and now I like them better. All are healthy and look excellent.
The overall water consumption has clearly dropped from 9L per day to about 5L per day after the defoliation, but I think it will rise again.
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Week 9. Flowering4mo ago
12 hrs
Light Schedule
25 °C
Day Air Temp
5.8
pH
Weak
Smell
800 PPM
TDS
55 %
Air Humidity
22 °C
Solution Temp
21 °C
Night Air Temp
Nutrients 5
12% H2O2 Foodgrade
1.25 mll
Bittersalz MgSO4 Magnesiumsulfat
0.25 mll
CaCl2
0.25 mll
High_And_Hydro I tried to learn and follow the advice given to me from a "competent source" regarding lighting.
What I've learned: Trust no one if it differs significantly from your approach. Just stick your fingers in your ears and sing loudly LALALA.
Yeah, the internodes are extremely large because I had way too little light on. I'm responsible for letting myself be told such things, but I'm throwing up 🤮🤮🤮.
I'm trying to limit the damage and going back to my old routine (Full throttle, pedal to the metal, those who brake are scared, trophy or hospital), there's nothing more I can do.
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Defoliation
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Week 10. Flowering4mo ago
12 hrs
Light Schedule
25 °C
Day Air Temp
5.8
pH
Weak
Smell
850 PPM
TDS
55 %
Air Humidity
22 °C
Solution Temp
21 °C
Night Air Temp
Nutrients 5
12% H2O2 Foodgrade
1.25 mll
Bittersalz MgSO4 Magnesiumsulfat
0.25 mll
CaCl2
0.25 mll
High_And_Hydro I had to bend number 3 at BT 21 properly again so it fits in the tent. Now they look so ugly that even Dad can't be proud anymore. From below, it looks like a flock of flamingos in shallow water, and the internodes are huge. I'm hoping for a miracle, but I'm expecting below-average mediocrity.
Last week, I swapped the calcium ammonium nitrate for calcium chloride, which halved the nitrogen content of my nutrient solution, which in turn means an increase in phosphorus and potassium content, without changing the actual amount of secondary and micronutrients and the EC value, which can happen when adding PK13/14 if you don't increase the EC value accordingly.
I’m hoping this will lead to less leaf growth in the second part of flowering, which so far seems to be working quite well. Whether and when the leaves will change color remains to be seen, as I haven't seen a single New Money turn purple yet, apart from the sales picture. So far, at least, they have all remained very green, if you can even find a few pictures from later stages.
I've attached some numbers as images in case anyone is interested. I used Bergrows' calculator to determine the nutrient amounts and for the ratios, my own, no longer public meta-ratio calculator. In the meta-calculator, I took calcium as the 100% starting value for the ratios, but potassium would have been okay too, for the sake of clarity. Also, my water values are included, as I work with tap water (Ca=40; Mg=22) without osmosis, filtration, or distillation.
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Week 11. Flowering4mo ago
12 hrs
Light Schedule
24 °C
Day Air Temp
5.8
pH
Weak
Smell
900 PPM
TDS
55 %
Air Humidity
22 °C
Solution Temp
21 °C
Night Air Temp
Nutrients 6
12% H2O2 Foodgrade
1.25 mll
Bittersalz MgSO4 Magnesiumsulfat
0.25 mll
CaCl2
0.25 mll
High_And_Hydro They have stretched for a long time, and I had to bend No. 1 + 3 so they would still fit in the tent.
No. 2 took the opportunity and is almost the same height as the others, with only a few centimeters difference.
Unfortunately, the internodes are mostly very large, and the leaves have grown significantly despite the low nitrogen. That's why I'm still defoliating a bit every day where the large leaves block the light down below.
They have developed some frost by now, and you can smell the first terpenes. I'm excited and looking forward to it 💪👽👍
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HST
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Defoliation
Technique
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Week 12. Flowering4mo ago
12 hrs
Light Schedule
24 °C
Day Air Temp
5.8
pH
Normal
Smell
900 PPM
TDS
55 %
Air Humidity
22 °C
Solution Temp
21 °C
Night Air Temp
Nutrients 5
Bittersalz MgSO4 Magnesiumsulfat
0.25 mll
CaCl2
0.3 mll
CANNA Aqua Flores A
2 mll
High_And_Hydro They have grown very tall, but there was just enough space. However, it looks a bit messy visually, which bothers me a little.
Number 1 has some really nice shoots that will definitely deliver some great pictures at harvest time. So far, it has mostly stayed green, except for the leaf stems, which are dark red on all of them.
Number 2 has actually stretched to the height of the other two, but it looks a bit skinny as well. At least the internodes are huge, and there aren't many of them.
Number 3 is by far the best. It has the largest biomass, the smallest internodes, and the most flower clusters. It grows wide on its own and is also very easy to care for. The leaves are already turning a bit purple, and the buds are super frosty.
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Week 13. Flowering4mo ago
12 hrs
Light Schedule
24 °C
Day Air Temp
5.8
pH
Normal
Smell
900 PPM
TDS
55 %
Air Humidity
22 °C
Solution Temp
21 °C
Night Air Temp
Nutrients 4
Bittersalz MgSO4 Magnesiumsulfat
0.25 mll
CaCl2
0.25 mll
CANNA Aqua Flores A
2 mll
High_And_Hydro They feel like they're growing very slowly, but in 2-3 weeks it will be done. Probably not a record yield, but the buds are very frosty and there are many of them. The main thing is that they taste good afterwards... 💪👽👍
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Week 14. Flowering3mo ago
12 hrs
Light Schedule
24 °C
Day Air Temp
5.8
pH
Normal
Smell
900 PPM
TDS
55 %
Air Humidity
22 °C
Solution Temp
21 °C
Night Air Temp
Nutrients 4
Bittersalz MgSO4 Magnesiumsulfat
0.25 mll
CaCl2
0.25 mll
CANNA Aqua Flores A
2 mll
High_And_Hydro The buds are very frosty and hardly growing anymore. It should be ready soon, but many trichomes are still clear. According to the breeder, it takes about 60 days, which would be in a good week 💪👽👍
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Week 15. Flowering3mo ago
12 hrs
Light Schedule
24 °C
Day Air Temp
5.8
pH
Normal
Smell
850 PPM
TDS
60 %
Air Humidity
22 °C
Solution Temp
21 °C
Night Air Temp
Nutrients 4
Bittersalz MgSO4 Magnesiumsulfat
0.25 mll
CaCl2
0.25 mll
CANNA Aqua Flores A
2 mll
High_And_Hydro The first trichomes of #3 are turning dark, so it's almost time to harvest.
It doesn't seem like a high-yielder strain, but with a bit more experience, I'm sure there's still some potential to be unlocked.
#3 is finishing the fastest; the other two will take a bit longer, I think. Especially #1 still has some white stigmas.
The bud structure of #1 and #2 is similar, very dense and "smooth," while #3, although firm, looks more rugged. I'm curious about the bag appeal, which strain will come out on top.
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Week 16. Harvest3mo ago
Happy Harvest Day!
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It wasn't that easy, but it's done. They smell very intense after cutting, very spicy, soapy, a bit sweet, and maybe a little bit of citrus in there.
I'm drying them whole and will trim them dry since the conditions are okay for me at the moment. I'm aiming for about 7 days of drying time.
5 days later:
No.3:
It was only 5 days for Pheno No.3 until I trimmed it. It was already dry, and the buds are now in the curing bucket at about 62% humidity. The interval is set to ventilate 4 times a day for 30 minutes, and I'm aiming for a value of about 60%. The humidity in the bucket might still rise a bit as the remaining moisture from the inside of the buds distributes more evenly. The progress is being tracked and monitored with a simple Govee Wi-Fi hygrometer.
From the trim, I've already made the first dry sift hash. After about 2-3 minutes of shaking, I got the first 10g out. I've also collected the scissor hash.
The difference in taste from the hash to the flower is still quite noticeable at the moment, but the buds still need to dry/curing properly. It's definitely very smooth and doesn't scratch at all, tasting very intensely spicy with a strong chemical/soapy/gassy note.
The other two phenos need a bit longer since they are drying in the 120x90 tent, and for some reason, it dries slower there than in the smaller 90x90. So I'll check back in 2-3 days.
A few days later:
They are now stable and in the jar. The taste has changed significantly again and, in my opinion, improved. The soapy note has become much less pronounced, and it now mainly tastes spicy.
No.1 has a nice dense bud structure and is relatively green when ground.
No.2 has yielded very little and the buds are still small.
No.3 has great bag appeal with a colorful mix of green and purple tones.
Cured and ready:
They are now stable and mainly taste musky with a herbal perfume. I just got a ball vape (WOHW), and with that, the flavor comes extremely close to the smell.
The taste is very intense and lingers in the mouth for a long time, and the high is relaxing for me but not sleepy.
All 3 phenos are close in flavor, and all 3 have a reasonable trichome density, only the color differs.
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Original
Spent 107 days
Ger Veg Flo Har
16.67 g
Bud dry weight per plant
3
Plants
1.08 m²
Grow Room size
Hard
Difficulty
Relaxed, Happy
Positive effects
Stress
Medical effects
Herbs, Flowery, Woody
Taste
Height
Day air temperature
Air humidity
PPM
PH
Light schedule
Solution temperature
Night air temperature
High_And_Hydro Finally, it's done and the plants have been cut. Next week they'll be trimmed.
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GroloCup commentedweek 55mo ago
This set up is flawless and beautiful, your plants seem to love it. Any particular brand of equipment?
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High_And_Hydro commented5mo ago
@GroloCup, Thanks buddy. The setup is very basic, but this run i use the Trolmaster TentX Controller for the lights and the humidifier.
The rdwc is a modified Plant!t Aeros Master IV with bigger return hoses ( 50mm ), greater circulation volume intake hoses ( 14mm ) and pump (600l/h) and reduced nutrient solution volume ( 24L )
The particular is , that it is very cheap and easy to run in every way. Less initial and running costs, less nutrients, less water, less energy but hydro yield and quality.
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GroloCup commented5mo ago
@High_And_Hydro as a fellow hydro grower, I must say your upgrades to the system are producing. I'm subbed and following along!
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High_And_Hydro commented5mo ago
@GroloCup, Thank you very much 💚💚💚
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GhostTerpZ commentedweek 134mo ago
Looking really good ❗️ ❗️ ❗️
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High_And_Hydro commented3mo ago
@@GhostTerpZ, Thanks buddy 💪👽👍
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YourLocalGrowmie commentedweek 104mo ago
This is how a happy plant needs to look like! Sooo many fingers on every leaf and perfect coloration. Signs of vitality and vigor all over. Keep up the good work!
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High_And_Hydro commented4mo ago
@YourLocalGrowmie, Thanks buddy 💪👽👍
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RockoCalenberg commentedweek 36mo ago
Strong setup and pretty girls 👌 Wishing you a stress-free and successful round! 💪💚✌️
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High_And_Hydro commented6mo ago
@RockoCalenberg, Thanks Bro 💪👽👍
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Wastent91 commentedweek 151mo ago
Ehy yuo have done a pefect work! Amazing buds full or resin! Congrats! 😻👍❄️❄️❄️?
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High_And_Hydro commented1mo ago
@Wastent91, Thanks buddy 💪👽👍
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Momentum commentedweek 163mo ago
happy harvest ✌️ wish you a good flight then
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High_And_Hydro commented3mo ago
@Momentum, Thank you my dear 💪👽👍
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Stony_German commentedweek 153mo ago
Happy Trimmjail. Congrats on the delicious-looking harvest.😏 Greetings from the South!
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High_And_Hydro commented3mo ago
@Stony_German, Hey thanks my dear, greetings from the North 💪👽👍
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GrowPro3500 commentedweek 163mo ago
Nice run !
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High_And_Hydro commented3mo ago
@GrowPro3500, Thanks buddy 💪👽👍
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cultivars commentedweek 143mo ago
Frosty genetics! Looks amazing, cheers!
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High_And_Hydro commented3mo ago
@cultivars, Thanks buddy 💪👽👍
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cangrowz commentedweek 133mo ago
Happy Growing Growmie🌱?💚
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High_And_Hydro commented3mo ago
@cangrowz, Thanks buddy 💪👽👍
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GrowPro3500 commentedweek 163mo ago
Nice run !
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