Who Gave the Ape a Marker?!

Greybeardbud

Approved by MSNL Seeds

130

1mo ago

Permanent Marker Auto

Sacred Seeds AU

Plant Success (Plant Revolution)

Nutrients

VEG

Hellion 700W VS3 LED Light Emitting Diodes/700W

Adjust-A-Wings

FLO

Hellion 700W VS3 LED Light Emitting Diodes/700W

Adjust-A-Wings

Tent

GT 200 x 200 x 200CM

Greenfingers

Fan

6 inch variable speed inline duct fan

Generic

Filt

6 inch Carbon Filter

Generic

Cond

Aerolush C08

Vivosun

Contr

GrowHub E42A Controller

Vivosun

Coco Coir

Professors Nutrients

Perlite

Professors Nutrients

Indoor

Room Type

Defoliation

weeks 7

38 liters

Pot Size

10 liters

Watering

Start at Harvest

1/8

Greybeardbud So far permanent marker has germinated, 2/3 seeds good, 1 questionable as it appears it’s an inverted embryo. Came out of the shell leaves first. Not sure if that one will survive but has been put into coco to see what happens. Grandaddy purple so far 0/3 will give it another 24 hrs in paper towel but not holding hopes for the appearance of tap roots. Photos later in the week as looking at baron pots isn’t exciting. 2/3 permanent marker survived, I had little expectation to the inverted embryo, 4/4 gorilla cookies sprouted strong tap roots in 36 hours. Dusted with great white and watered all with a 1/8 strength nutrient mix Update Well into seedling stage, the gorilla cookies has caught up with the permanent marker which was planted 4 days earlier. All have their first set of true leaves now. I am impressed with these gorilla cookies auto’s so far, fast to germinate with thick tap roots and already caught up to the others. Feeding every 2 days with ~200-300ml of 1/8 strength nutes which sits around .45 ec Nutrients used plant mechanics coco+ a/b, plant mechanics super n + cal-mag, invasion osa silica, growth technology gt fulvic, canna rhizotonic, canna cannazym, great white powder, house and garden drip clean Single plant photos are seedling 1 week 2 days for permanent marker and 5 days gorilla cookies Light is set to 40% (280w) fixed at 1.5m from top of pot to bottom of light. veg channel only estimated ppfd 110-140

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Used method

Paper Towel

Germination Method

Who Gave the Ape a Marker?!. Week 1 - Gorilla cookies

Who Gave the Ape a Marker?!. Week 1 - Permanent marker

1/7

24 hrs

Light Schedule

23 °C

Day Air Temp

5.8

No Smell

Smell

56 %

Air Humidity

38 liters

Pot Size

0.5 liters

Watering Volume

Nutrients 9

Invasion OSA Orthosilicic Acid

0.15 mll

Rhizotonic

2 mll

CANNAZYM

2.5 mll

Greybeardbud Have entered veg stage, plants have been meeting their milestones nicely, a little too much in stretch than I’d like but with the use of tent pegs they have been supported. One of the permanent markers have leaf deformation and we are just going to let it run and see what it does. Not overly happy with the genetics from our previous seed bank and will not be purchasing seeds from them anymore given the issues from the previous grow and the germination of this one. However the seeds from msnl are growing great. 700w light at 50% dimmed with a height of 1.5m from top of pot (light fixed at that height) which would explain the stretch when the light was at 25% in early seedling stage, stretching slowed when lights got brighter. Feeding a full complement of nutrients this time over just base and silica to see how different it can be. Plants are handling the mix well. Giving this grow an 24/0 light cycle because they are autos and I want to play a little because I can. Overall I am happy with everything so far. Very excited to give an update tomorrow for the start of week 2 veg the growth in 1 week has been impressive!

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Who Gave the Ape a Marker?!. Week 2 - Pm1

Who Gave the Ape a Marker?!. Week 2 - Pm2

Who Gave the Ape a Marker?!. Week 2 - Gc1

Who Gave the Ape a Marker?!. Week 2 - Gc2

Who Gave the Ape a Marker?!. Week 2 - Gc3

Who Gave the Ape a Marker?!. Week 2 - Gc4

1/7

14 cm

Height

24 hrs

Light Schedule

24 °C

Day Air Temp

5.8

No Smell

Smell

940 PPM

TDS

60 %

Air Humidity

38 liters

Pot Size

1.5 liters

Watering Volume

Nutrients 9

Invasion OSA Orthosilicic Acid

0.2 mll

Rhizotonic

2 mll

CANNAZYM

2.5 mll

Greybeardbud This week has been swift and productive, plants have sky rocketed, pushing higher ec ~ 1.81 from 1.7 last week lights still on 24/0. Have upped the temp to get a more stable vpd of 1.1 will be fine tuning throughout the next day to so to hit 1.2-1.3. Plants seem to be doing exceptionally well, handling the higher ec and the constant light with 2 very different phenotypes starting to appear. Have started watering the whole pot now, they got 3L each last night, pots still feel light so will give them more tonight then back to 2 days between feeds (seems to work well with the current vpd) no runoff yet, hopefully tonight.

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1/7

22 cm

Height

24 hrs

Light Schedule

25 °C

Day Air Temp

5.8

No Smell

Smell

960 PPM

TDS

67 %

Air Humidity

38 liters

Pot Size

2.5 liters

Watering Volume

Nutrients 9

Invasion OSA Orthosilicic Acid

0.2 mll

Rhizotonic

2 mll

CANNAZYM

2.5 mll

Greybeardbud The girls are just running on autopilot the past week. Have done nothing but give them a feed every 2 days, now increased to 5L ~1.81 ec 10-20% runoff, lights 24/0 50% veg channel only. lights fixed 1.5m from top of pot so still plenty of room to grow. They all look really healthy. 2 typical phenos here, 2 @ 16cm, 1 @ 14cm, then the other 3 are 20, 21, 22cm. Expecting to see 3 tall stretchy plants and 3 compact at the end will be introducing 15% bloom channel today to start the full spectrum and preparing them for bloom when it happens. I am not expecting to see pistils for another 1-2 weeks because of the pot size it will take a bit longer for the roots to hit the edges Week 3 day 2 update: well I was wrong. Noticed tonite we have pre flowers forming, I guess in a few days we will have pistils. Have kept veg at 55% and increased bloom to 25%. Once pistils have started to emerge will transition canna bloom into the mix

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1/8

40 cm

Height

24 hrs

Light Schedule

23 °C

Day Air Temp

5.8

Normal

Smell

1100 PPM

TDS

56 %

Air Humidity

38 liters

Pot Size

2.5 liters

Watering Volume

Nutrients 10

Invasion OSA Orthosilicic Acid

0.2 mll

Rhizotonic

1 mll

CANNAZYM

2.5 mll

Greybeardbud Another week of autopilot, the girls have almost all doubled in size in a week, still looking good. Now feeding 2.2 ec still doing 5L /48 hr and still on 24/0 light. Veg channel 55% bloom 25%. Will increase bloom once pistils appear and transition to bloom nutrients, until then will stay on their current feed schedule and potentially increasing to daily feeds instead of every other day. Will not be topping or fimming these ladies, and will resist the urge to defoliate as much as possible. By start of week 5 Scrog will be installed at 50cm, with a second layer planned for around 90cm. Plant sizing from start week 3 to start week 4 Pm1 16cm - 30cm Pm2 21cm - 40cm Gc1 16cm - 30cm Gc2 14cm - 27cm Gc3 22cm - 38cm Gc4 20cm - 37cm Edit - had a look, pistils are there so have started a transition to flowering and reducing super n+ cal/mag

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1/7

65 cm

Height

24 hrs

Light Schedule

24 °C

Day Air Temp

5.8

Normal

Smell

1100 PPM

TDS

60 %

Air Humidity

38 liters

Pot Size

5 liters

Watering Volume

Nutrients 10

Invasion OSA Orthosilicic Acid

0.2 mll

Rhizotonic

1 mll

CANNAZYM

2.5 mll

Greybeardbud Time poor this week but have started daily feeds as of today. Have had some environment issues which will resolve when I hook up a constant drain hose to the dehumidifier. Have shuffled them around so they aren’t so bunched up and have installed 2 scrogs at 60cm from top of pot. Will need to get a couple more but so far these don’t look like they are going to need it yet other than to spread them apart to let the light gods in Current growth Pm1 51cm Pm2 64cm Gc1 48cm Gc2 39cm Gc3 56cm Gc4 65cm

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1/4

91 cm

Height

24 hrs

Light Schedule

24 °C

Day Air Temp

6.0

Normal

Smell

1100 PPM

TDS

58 %

Air Humidity

38 liters

Pot Size

5 liters

Watering Volume

Nutrients 9

Invasion OSA Orthosilicic Acid

0.2 mll

CANNAZYM

2.5 mll

Boost

2 mll

Greybeardbud Getting difficult to move around the tent now, girls have packed on the height in the last 7 days. Have now dropped super n+ and rhizotonic and added the full dose of boost and pk 13-14, smell is definitely strong now. Lights at 50%veg 70%bloom 0 uv. So have done a small defoliation to get some light to the inside. They are looking a little sad because I trimmed up some of the canopy. Growth Pm1 - 70 Pm2 - 85 Gc1 - 67 Gc2 - 50 Gc3 - 70 Gc4 - 91

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1/8

128 cm

Height

24 hrs

Light Schedule

24 °C

Day Air Temp

6.1

Normal

Smell

1100 PPM

TDS

60 %

Air Humidity

38 liters

Pot Size

7.5 liters

Watering Volume

Nutrients 8

Invasion OSA Orthosilicic Acid

0.2 mll

Boost

2 mll

CANNA PK 13/14

0.75 mll

Greybeardbud Absolutely had to defoliate the girls today, they have exploded this week, the growth has been crazy. Upped the fertigation to 7.5L each but considering 10L per plant for at least 2 of them, potentially 2 x 5L feeds per day instead of 10L /day at once. Have had to use scrog to pull over gc4 as she was 20cm from light. If pm2 gets any taller she will have to be pulled over aswell. Thoroughly impressed with how this grow is going Heights this week Pm1 - 91cm Pm2 - 108cm Gc1 - 90cm Gc2 - 64cm Gc3 - 83cm Gc4 - 128cm 2nd group photo taken 2 days later, defoliating did not bother them one little bit, girls are drinking down the 7.5L feed so starting tomorrow (Wednesday) we transition to 2x 5L feeds daily

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Used techniques

Defoliation

Technique

1/5

130 cm

Height

24 hrs

Light Schedule

24 °C

Day Air Temp

6.1

Normal

Smell

1100 PPM

TDS

50 %

Air Humidity

38 liters

Pot Size

7.5 liters

Watering Volume

Nutrients 9

Invasion OSA Orthosilicic Acid

0.2 mll

Secret Sauce

0.01 mll

Boost

2 mll

Greybeardbud Have split the girls into 2 tents, 4 in a 2m x 2m, 2 into a 1.5 x 1.5m to give them more room and better air flow. Have also scrogged 3 of the 4 plants in the bigger tent. Lights are now 100% veg 100% bloom 0% uv. There was zero stress from defoliation a week ago. I feel like for whatever reason I’m doing everything wrong in the Autoflower rule book but they are loving it all. Have added a product into the mix this week called secret sauce, it is a natural plant stimulant and it’s mix ratio is 1ml / 200L and have bought back cannazym because I finally had time to get to the store. Am very much excited to see the final harvest

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1/10

130 cm

Height

24 hrs

Light Schedule

24 °C

Day Air Temp

6.1

Normal

Smell

1100 PPM

TDS

50 %

Air Humidity

38 liters

Pot Size

7.5 liters

Watering Volume

Nutrients 9

Invasion OSA Orthosilicic Acid

0.2 mll

Secret Sauce

0.05 mll

Boost

2 mll

Greybeardbud Everything is going well, just cruising along. I spend a lot of time away for work so daily feeds have passed along to my better half to manage and she is doing an awesome job of it. Defoliated the 2 in the smaller tent today because they were very bushy and no light was getting through. Getting temp spikes in the middle of the day of around 28’c but goes back down as the day progresses. All in all they look good, smell great, and are just doing their thing with very little interactions. This has to be my favourite grow to date. Should look into autopot or a decent dwc setup for managing the feeding to make it easier on the Mrs. Perhaps next grow?

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1/18

130 cm

Height

24 hrs

Light Schedule

25 °C

Day Air Temp

6.2

Normal

Smell

1100 PPM

TDS

63 %

Air Humidity

38 liters

Pot Size

10 liters

Watering Volume

Nutrients 8

Secret Sauce

0.05 mll

Boost

2 mll

CANNAZYM

2.5 mll

Greybeardbud Been insane this week, bulking has clearly kicked in. Every plant is sticky, it’s like touching pure glue. The smell is intense and my carbon filter is just not scrubbing it near enough. My expectation is another 4 weeks and we should be in the harvest window. Have moved to 10L/24hr manual watering 5L/5L 1 hour apart because they were drying down too much. Still only getting 10% runoff at best. These Gorilla Cookies Autoflower seeds from MSNL are crazy! They have for the most part smashed the 1m x 1m expectations I had with almost no lst, no topping, just feed and leave. Need to pick up some cal mag, boost, and cannazym as we are out again.

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1/8

130 cm

Height

24 hrs

Light Schedule

23 °C

Day Air Temp

6.1

Normal

Smell

1040 PPM

TDS

60 %

Air Humidity

38 liters

Pot Size

10 liters

Watering Volume

Nutrients 8

Secret Sauce

0.05 mll

Boost

2 mll

CANNAZYM

2.5 mll

Greybeardbud Added Super N + Cal Mag back into the mix after talking with the local hydroponics shop, he says safe to use start to finish as we’re noticing a low magnesium issue. The 3 in the 2m tent will be harvested in 2 weeks more than likely, the 3 in the 1.5m tent have 4 weeks give or take. Chopped off a little sample for the Mrs from one of the more advanced plants (pic included) weighed in at 13.4g wet trimmed and is now drying next update it should be dry and ready for quality control testing.

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1/16

130 cm

Height

24 hrs

Light Schedule

23 °C

Day Air Temp

6.1

Normal

Smell

1040 PPM

TDS

60 %

Air Humidity

38 liters

Pot Size

10 liters

Watering Volume

Nutrients 8

Secret Sauce

0.05 mll

Boost

2 mll

CANNAZYM

2.5 mll

Greybeardbud We have started the flush process on gc1 and pm2, gc4 is still a few days, the 2m tent is nearly finished! Once the 3 in the 2m tent are done harvesting we move the 3 in the 1.5m tent over into the 2m to give them some more room and scrog them out as they have another 3 weeks roughly. The smell in the 1.5m tent at this stage is fruity like unripe mangoes. All the girls are stacked with flowers some as thick as my forearm. Will be very interested to see how they dry down when they are done. Either way this has been fun pushing autos to their max, we have not hit a single wall this grow, 24/7 light, 2.1ec daily feeds, absolutely zero training aside from applying scrog later in grow. We will finish this with a large harvest ** harvested GC1 Friday - 1419.5g wet ** harvested PM2 Friday 1695g wet All weighed bud only no stem

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1/9

130 cm

Height

24 hrs

Light Schedule

23 °C

Day Air Temp

6.1

Normal

Smell

1040 PPM

TDS

60 %

Air Humidity

38 liters

Pot Size

10 liters

Watering Volume

Nutrients 8

Secret Sauce

0.05 mll

Boost

2 mll

CANNAZYM

2.5 mll

Greybeardbud Has been a busy weekend sorting out the dry tent and relocating the 3 from the 1.5m tent to the 2m tent. The root balls from the 2 we harvested filled the entire 38L pot, all roots were healthy white with no signs of root stress or disease. We are looking at 2-3 weeks of bulking and ripening on the remaining 4 plants before harvesting fully. Which should be very interesting as the buds on the remaining plants are massive and very heavy already.

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Happy Harvest Day!

Permanent Marker Auto Sacred Seeds AU

5/10

Rated

Spent 94 days

Ger Veg Flo Har

Plants

4 m²

Grow Room size

Easy

Difficulty

Height

Day air temperature

Air humidity

PPM

Light schedule

Pot size

1/2

Greybeardbud Both permanent marker autos harvested. So far off pm2 we achieved a 190.3G dry bud outcome, pm1 hung last night for drying so will update when everything is dry. I gave it a 5/10 because of the initial issues with germination at the start with our grow of permanent marker and Grandaddy purple with only 2 of the 6 seeds actually viable

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1/3

Greybeardbud So far gc1 and a partial gc4 dry, gc1 landed 200g of dry bud and gc4 so far is sitting at 98g dry, with 2 full plants drying now and what is left on gc4 these should yield impressive results. Have had no issues with these from seed to harvest, buds have been sampled and the effects are stunning

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