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Blue Dream
Custom Breeder & Strain
LED/150W
Light
LED/200W
Light
Indoor
Room Type
LST
weeks Technique
Topping
weeks Technique
Defoliation
weeks Technique
Strain
00seeds2 - 00 KUSH
Blue Dream
Custom Breeder & Strain
Growing it
Normal
Resistance
Neutral
I got the seeds from a local seedbank. Breeder unknown. I've got nothing to compare to but I think the genetics were lacking here. Got 176g of dried bud and 61g of trim from two plants.
The Outcome
Week 16
Harvest
What's on the scales?
176
gram
ounce
Bud dry weight
Harvested
2
Number of plants harvested
Grow Room
0.37
mยฒ
ftยฒ
Grow Room size
0.88
g / watt
475.68
g / mยฒ
88
g / plant
5.41
plant / mยฒ
540.54
watt / mยฒ
Tastes like
Fruity
Pungent
Sweet
Nutrients
I'm not necessarily happy to give stars to nutes after my first grow. I have nothing to compare to and all I know is that I started feeding PK 13/14 too early and it threw my girls off balance, but it ain't Canna's fault now, is it? No idea why nute ratings are mandatory.
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ThatsNotMe ThatsNotMe
5 years ago
First grow so made a lot of mistakes, but hey. Would have preferred to wait another 2 weeks but I've already been flushing for 3 weeks and the girls have gone all yellow. The nute lockout towards the end of flower was the biggest cause of issues, but not the only one. From the beginning the plants seemed stunted so maybe it was the medium. Anyhow, no one really cares and I don't either. Lessons learned and off to a next one. Drying now so will update numbers when dried.
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Grow Questions
ThatsNotMe
ThatsNotMestarted grow question 5 years ago
I've just impulsively purchased 2 x 120w Quantum Board from Alibaba and it should arrive within the next 18 days. When that happens, the girls will be a good few weeks into flower. Should I upgrade the lights in the tent as soon as they arrive or wait until the next grow? Ta
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BillMonroe
BillMonroeanswered grow question 5 years ago
Looks like a 2x2? I recommend hanging them immediately and not using the full 240w from the QBs but dimming to max 200w. (Assuming they use HLG-120H-XX drivers). Watt for watt, any QB, knockoff or not, will already absolutely wipe the floor with that purple fixture. Handle with care.
ThatsNotMe
ThatsNotMestarted grow question 5 years ago
Is now the time to start giving them PK13/14? Or is it too soon?
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BigBadLion
BigBadLionanswered grow question 5 years ago
I think it's the right moment to start giving them PK 13/14. The usually the plants need to start receiving those supplements the last 3 to 4 weeks of flower and Blue Dream usually takes between 7 to 9 weeks to get ready so I believe it's a good moment to start! Good luck! ๐Ÿ‘
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randyjustice
randyjusticeweek 5
Hey @thatsnotme, does folier feeding with CalMag work better than uptake through the roots? Curious!
ThatoneAKguy
ThatoneAKguy
@ThatsNotMe, the calmag deficiency comes with the intensity of all LED and especially quantum boards. Another one to watch out for from week 3 on in flower is phosphorus deficiencies too. It took me forever to figure out what what happening. You can note it by the veins in the leaves starting to turn lighter which will eventually lead to the whole leaf. Just sharing something that took me a year to figure out on my own. The other one I just learned not long ago is that you very rarely see a cal mag toxicity so you donโ€™t have to worry about it very often.
ThatsNotMe
ThatsNotMe
No idea to be honest. I flushed mine so they're not due watering yet but need to give them calcium/magensium due to blurple lights (apparently there's a correlation between blurple lights and calmag deficiency). Here: https://www.growell.co.uk/advice/hints-tips/calcium-magnesium-the-bond-is-strong towards the bottom it says: "If youโ€™ve already got a deficiency, a CalMag will correct it. To correct the deficiency quickly, it is best to apply as a foliar spray at 10-15ml per Litre. This may sound like a lot, but it is safe and will work quickly."
TheCode
TheCodeweek 4
Hey it's not so bad you still have 2 more and as i can see you dont have to much space aswell so i think its even better that you dropped one ! Whats the size of the tent? you gonna finish in da same tent? if yes ten its gonna be crowded ๐Ÿ˜… you should do a good job with LST control those girls!
ThatsNotMe
ThatsNotMe
@TheCode, Haha, yeah. That was the plan all along to drop the third one so no biggie. The tent is 50x50x100cm. Tiny! It's my only tent so yeah, it'll have to do for the whole cycle. I feel I could have gotten some small auto instead for my first grow, as Blue Dream can get really big, but oh well. I'll try to manage it somehow and leave enough room for stretch. I'm going to throw a scrog in there and was thinking of topping it only once, let both plants fill the scrog, supercrop the main colas, let it recover and flip to flower.
TheCode
TheCodeweek 3
Yeah they going slow ma man Maybe you put your light much closer? And that one of yo girls look really stressed! Humidity is okey? Ph is Okey? Temperature is okey? The fan aint blowing all the time on the plants? maybe they are in a shock from root bound? Good luck..
ThatsNotMe
ThatsNotMe
@TheCode, Thanks man. I'm growing in Canna Terra Professional Plus so not coco. I've dissected the twisted one and I think I was right. Looked like the seed ended up on top of a chunk of bark and the roots never managed to spread in the pot (I'll upload some pics later). I'll be lowering the lights later on as well. I'm kinda winging it.
TheCode
TheCode
@ThatsNotMe, So its coco you have yeah? Yeah you should really have PH meter it's like one of the most important things mate. Well you doing everything kinda right so yeah maybe the roots is the problem but that one girl really looks streesed. And by the way those girls start looking a lil bit hungry are you feeding them?
ThatsNotMe
ThatsNotMe
@TheCode, The one that looks stressed gets everything exactly the same as the other two. My theory is that the seedling has hit some chunk of food (bark, etc.) in the soilless mix but I will be getting rid of it later today and will check if that were true. It goes through twice as much water as the other plants. Humidity is between 50 and 60%. Temps are between 20C (night) and 26C (day). Fan's been blowing on them since they were born. PH is one think I have no way checking so it might be a bit high, but it would be the same for all 3 plants. Also not root bound. The one I repotted, the roots didn't even get to the bottom of the pot yet.
buddha61
buddha61week 11
Looking good for a first grow. I got a Blue Dream cross going right now, so I will be interested to see these girls fill out.
buddha61
buddha61
@ThatsNotMe, thanks. Afraid this 2nd grow won't look as good with different training method, and a few males.
ThatsNotMe
ThatsNotMe
@buddha61, I've looked at your harvested diary and damn that was satisfying to watch.
DILLIGAF
DILLIGAFweek 9
@ThatsNotMe Hi mate just answered your question hope it's what you wanted ๐Ÿ™
DILLIGAF
DILLIGAF
@ThatsNotMe, No worries mate
ThatsNotMe
ThatsNotMe
@DILLIGAF, Thanks man. I've accepted another one as an answer as it mentioned something I wasn't aware of in regards to QB. I will be installing them as soon as they arrive.
BillMonroe
BillMonroeweek 9
Looking good! You can put the small one on a platform to raise it, and remove the fan leaves of the other plant which shade the small one.
BillMonroe
BillMonroe
@ThatsNotMe, Lift it ASAP, you want your plant growing in as high a light level as possible :) it's probably not going to catch up. The load refers to the amperage the diodes get; at (for example) 700mA a LED is more efficient (in terms of lumens per watt, or lm/w) than it will be at 1400mA. Indeed, dimming the driver will reduce the current available to the leds. But that's a whole other subject.
ThatsNotMe
ThatsNotMe
@BillMonroe, Thanks. At which point would I put it on the platform? Can I assume that it's not going to catch up with the bigger one and just lift it up right now? The QB are two 120W boards with 1 240W driver (I went for 2 separate ones because I want them side by side and not the long way like the 240W normally look like). I'm not sure there can be knock-offs of quantum boards as the concept is really simple, driver is made by meanwell anyway so the only difference can be leds. Hopefully Kingbrite and Meijiu install LM301H when they say they do. I know I'm not getting top bin but It's $170 shipped to UK for both fixtures and the driver, including ratchet pulleys and heatsinks. Top bin is probably another $100 on top and I have no way of checking. And in 2x2 tent I don't think the difference is going to matter anyway. I did go for 240W because I've seen on samsung website somewhere that those LM301H are most efficient when under 50% load. Thanks again
Cannibalgardens
Cannibalgardensweek 9
Going to follow along the girls are looking very good at the moment ..
ThatsNotMe
ThatsNotMe
@Cannibalgardens, Thanks for the answer. Really chuffed that someone more experienced likes the look of my girls.
Cannibalgardens
Cannibalgardensweek 11
Lots of stretching looking healthy
teddaykgb
teddaykgbweek 11
Looking great! Nice and healthy! Blue dream is a great strain! Good luck with the harvest!๐Ÿ‘Š
Trip614
Trip614week 8
I get the same feeling during lights out. I'm doing my first Blue Dream run right now too, can't wait!
Trip614
Trip614week 10
Hey, what size filter do you have? I have the same inline, and was thinking about doing a 2x2 tent as well,
Trip614
Trip614
@ThatsNotMe, I asked because that is exactly what I was thinking of doing and I thought the same about the 6 inch fan, I was thinking about just putting my filter intent and fan out, but seeing yours ' I'll probably copy you.
ThatsNotMe
ThatsNotMe
@Trip614, It's a 4" filter attached to a 6" fan through a reducer. I'm probably going to try to use it for this and one more grow before replacing it with 6" 30cm one. The thing is, that in 2 x 2 tent I never get the fan on higher speed than 4, but probably will crank it up if I need to reduce humidity closer to the harvest. So the 4" filter kind of works in that small tent, but the airflow is restricted and you can feel it on higher speeds.
Reaper
Reaperweek 11
everything looks perfect, just a litle advice: 600watt hps will put these plants in extreme bulk i dont believe 200w led is going to give 400-500 grams bud, i grew these a few times and only had extreme yield with the 600w hps. i tried 400hps and 300w led but is was just too weak. i hope u do well