DonnieG OK, from fastbuds we got eight gorilla Z autos and one gorilla cookies auto they just germinated fast as hell I put them in there not last night the night before and then last night I did two more and checked this morning and every single one cracked even the ones I threw in last night so as soon as I seen that, threw them in cups and for the first seven days they are going to sit close to me where I can protect my little baby girls for the next week and they will be in the ground blasting off I am going to give them as much space in between so they can grow as big as they can. Will update you in a week thanks.