Well not as bad as I assumed, the short stubby one is about the size of a Coke can and is super dense, going to give her another week or but the taller one might have another 2 weeks or more as she's just forming trichomes and is showing signs that she's still got more to give. The smallest of the bunch that I destroyed, I keep her as a sign of respect but kid you not she's still surviving. I feel good taking in to account the complications I had with ph levels what not.