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Sundae Driver x Papaya
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Week 6
Vegetation
24.13
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Schmidt plant food
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Grow Questions
GrowGraceGrow
GrowGraceGrowstarted grow question 5 years ago
Is it possible to fertilize all stages of growth with household items?
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Jwjoh
Jwjohanswered grow question 5 years ago
I understand you want an organic grow using stuff around your house, so I don't expect you to select nor agree with my answer. However, I want to make sure you get a macro view. Hopefully you'll read it over. I'm doing a fairly cheap grow right now (other than a small tent, an LED light, and a fan/charcoal filter setup with a rheostat, but that's all reusable for many years). I bought a $12 bottle of Miracle Grow 12-4-8 for the veg phase (has some other trace elements too); a $25 bottle of CaliMagic for all phases which has calcium, magnesium and some other trace elements; a bottle of pH up and a bottle of pH down to keep it in the 6.2-ish range that came as a kit for $20, and a couple $4 bottles of Dr Schultz 2-7-7 cactus food for flowering phase. I ended up splurging $95 on some stuff called Bud Blaster for week 3+ of flowering because I saw results on the other diaries and actually saw results on my plants within 24 hours (yes really), but it was totally unnecessary -- the cactus food was doing fine. So minus the expensive Bud Blaster, everything else together was about $70 -- *I've barely used any of it for growing 2 plants so far up to and almost now through the 3rd week of flowering.* I have enough for many, many grows. I'm actually thinking some of it might expire before I get through it! Some people laugh at Miracle Grow but if you get the right N-P-K ratio it does the job just fine, the plants don't care where it comes from. Cheap, easy, instant nutrients that don't have to biodegrade first. Every week I feed nutrients on Friday, then flush on Tuesday. Though I have been buying distilled water, but I ordered all the parts to build a still, just waiting on the massive teapot that's coming on the slowboat from China :D Then I can start a fire outside (I live on a farm, something we do all the time) and use it to boil the water for the still. Oh and I bought a $20 pH meter off Amazon that had a 4.5 star rating, and $12 for 800 sheets of litmus paper just to double check when I feel like it. There are also plenty of high quality organic nutrient solutions you can buy that will insta-deliver just like the ones I'm using, but they are generally much more expensive, which is why I didn't take that route.
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souljasam
souljasamanswered grow question 5 years ago
There are a lot of things you can use to supplement nutrients for every stage of growth. The #1 thing is to compost your food waste. Leafy greens and coffee grounds add nitrogen, egg shells for calcium, banana peels for potassium, phosphorus, and magnesium. You can compost most foods except meats and dairy because they will smell. Composting usually takes a while to break down and be ready for use. You can also make compost teas if you buy some microbes. You add microbes to water, aerate with an air pump and airstone and add stuff like banana peels to feed the microbes and give them something to break down. Youll wind up with a foamy frothy concoction that you feed your plants to boost the microbes living in the root system of your plants. One nice thing about using microbes and compost is the fact that its all organic means that things break down slowly and its harder to overfeed the plants as the microbes help regulate how much the plants take in. You can also use epsom salts if you are having a magnesium deficiency. If you were just looking for stuff that you can mix with water and feed, im not 100% sure what youd use other than epsom salt for magnesium.
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OutForReal
OutForRealanswered grow question 5 years ago
Yes it is possible ! That beeing possible is not a reason to do it ! If the reason is to do 100% by yourself then many recipes are available. If the reason is to keep it cheap then you can have everything your plants needs for less than 20$. Now 1/4 piss + 3/4 water will bring nitrogen , wood ash will bring potash, and phosphorus can be bring my milk , crushed egg shell for calcium and magnesium.
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Jwjoh
Jwjohweek 6
@GrowGraceGrow, the perfect time to start LST is after the stem is strong enough to withstand it (usually once it has 3 or 4 nodes) and before the stem gets so thick and strong that it will break. Once you start LST, you can continue with it and make the plant take whatever shape you want. I just did a bunch of LST to my clones, watch for my diary update on Monday if you are curious!
Jwjoh
Jwjohweek 3
Looking good, I'm also curious what nutrients as @Philindicus asked as well. Do you have a plan to transplant to larger pots? Probably at least 3 gallon pots?
Philindicus
Philindicus
@Jwjoh, This is a very nice strain she picked!
Welovephattrees420uk
Welovephattrees420ukweek 3
Very valid points from all , it comes down what you as the gardener would like from your plants at the end of the day , nutes can be stressful you have to feel comfortable with feeding otherwise you won't deal with problems . We are all learning dude , and most of the questions I have i can find answers on these pages . Good luck
Philindicus
Philindicusweek 2
I would recommend sticking with manufactured fertilizers to start off with. The Fox Farm trio of Grow Big.Big Bloom,Tiger bloom can produce great results at a very affordable price. They also use some organic ingredients in some products. Also Bio Bizz nutrients, Green Buss liquids are also great organic alternatives to try. While creating home made solutions is more rewarding they are difficult and more expensive than buying them pre-made. Hope this helps. 👍
Jwjoh
Jwjohweek 6
Looking great for week 6! It might be too late now, but for your next grow look into Low Stress Training (LST). You can turn the one main cola (stalk) into dozens of colas, forcing each plant to produce WAY more buds than it normally would in the "Christmas Tree" form. But anyway, consider how much height you have in your grow space as to when you want to start the 12/12 flowering. They will probably grow at least twice as tall as they are now within the first 2 to 3 weeks of flowering.
Jwjoh
Jwjoh
@GrowGraceGrow, the perfect time to start LST is after the stem is strong enough to withstand it (usually once it has 3 or 4 nodes) and before the stem gets so thick and strong that it will break. Once you start LST, you can continue with it and make the plant take whatever shape you want. I just did a bunch of LST to my clones, watch for my diary update on Monday if you are curious!
GrowGraceGrow
GrowGraceGrow
@Jwjoh, I wasnt sure at what stage I should LST, will definitely do it on my next grow. I am quite limited on my grow space currently, so I guess I should start flowering now then. Thanks for your input, much appreciated! ✌️
Jwjoh
Jwjohweek 4
I have a lack of experience with this and it could actually still be too early to tell if they are male or female from pre-flowering. However based on looking at your pics I'd wager Brigid and Wynnie are female, not sure about Danu. Will be interesting to see some opinions from some experienced growers. Article: https://www.growweedeasy.com/preflowers
Jwjoh
Jwjoh
@GrowGraceGrow, yeah no worries! I try to offer stuff where I can. The more bud in the world, the merrier :) You can also try to take clones from them and switch back to 12/12 as soon as they root -- they will start flowering and you can see how they develop. However if in Canada and growing recreation only, be aware that each clone counts toward your rec limit of 4.
GrowGraceGrow
GrowGraceGrow
@Jwjoh, Thanks for having a look at their close ups and the link to the article. I really appreciate it! Will be interesting to see what happens with Danu.
Philindicus
Philindicusweek 3
They look great I'm sure they will love the new light
Philindicus
Philindicus
@GrowGraceGrow, What nutrients did you choose?
GrowGraceGrow
GrowGraceGrow
@Philindicus, Thanks for checking them out👍👍
Philindicus
Philindicusweek 2
Hope I was able to answer your grow question. Feel free to message me anytime. Look forward to following your grow.👍
Philindicus
Philindicus
@GrowGraceGrow, nothing wrong with trying out a few things. You can use unsulphured organic black strap molasses 1 teaspoon per gallon of water it tends to be acidic so you may have to raise the ph back up unless you have neutral/hard water. Once a week is good. It has a lot of good stuff amino acids,calcium,magnesium,phosphorus,potassium,vitamins and carbohydrates that the beneficial microbes in your soil can feed on. As your plant gets larger you can increase the amount to 1 tablespoon per gallon water every other week.
GrowGraceGrow
GrowGraceGrow
@Philindicus, Thanks for sharing all that info! I'm going to hold off on the homemade nutrients until I get a couple grows under my belt. Perhaps I was a little too ambitious! I will definitely check out the Fox Farm trip. Much appreciated 👍
DankGardener
DankGardenerweek 4
Hey growgracegrow I'm trying to follow up and see if somebody has answered your question if so plz pick answered much thanks.
GrowGraceGrow
GrowGraceGrow
@DankGardener, Hi Cbalderson60! Thank you very much for your well detailed answer. I found it the most helpful for what I was asking. However, I believe I will utilize some of those methods for future grows. It seems as though there is great preparation involved in using homemade organic nutrients. I have saved your post to use as a reference in future. Thanks again for sharing your expertise! Happy growing✌️