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JinksyGrows JinksyGrows
4 years ago
This was a pretty bad week with lots of problems that arouse due to a few factors that I had identified and fixed, over time, but really shouldn't have happened in the first place. I feel it was a mixture of being new to growing, impatience and lack of intuition that lead me to this point but after a full week of remedies and fixing my errors the plants bounced back. During this time, however, I feel I lost at least 3 weeks of Veg from all this stress and stunting. Here is a list of mistakes I made, compounding into much larger ones: 1. Used too tall of a germination/seedling cup (Solo) and instead of filling it only 2/3's or half I filled it to the top. The cup is about 6.5 inches high and the pots I potted up too were only 7.5" in depth. No room for the roots to grow and they bound QUICKLY. No longer filling past 2/3's to leave tapping room and also room to shore up stems if need be. 2. I know plastic pots can be fine, but the 1.57G plastic pots were wider then they were tall w/ very, very poor aeration. With improper watering (non-localized) I quickly saturated the medium with no roots to take it up. Now we are root bound and drowning...plants are not looking good. 3. Under-conditioned soil. When I opened the bag of Ocean Forest I knew something was off. It was hard as a brick and didn't fluff out when I cut the bag. I've seen and used this soil before and it wasn't right...so I used it anyway!(Not smart. Needed to pitch it). Anyways, it was not conditioned properly and I didn't take the steps necessary in adding perlite or other, to loam up the soil and make it so it didn't hold on to every bloody drop of water I gave. Now we're drowning, bound and the soil is too dense to give up water or let new lateral roots to tap into...easily at least. 4. At this point I have not watered the girls for over 8 days! since they won't take up any water but have taken the nutrients from it. Now there is a clear Cal-mag and phosphorous deficiency with a Nitrogen one on the way. But I can't feed or I'll compound the problem. I felt like there was no turning back and I had essentially failed and killed these girls off, or at least it was only a matter of days or a week. Was told by other growers I know to pitch them and try again. That it was only losing a few weeks and it would be better to just give er another go. I actually did agree with them but felt sick about terminating them when nothing that happened is or was their fault. I did this and I was responsible for it. From a non grower, I was told this. (verbatim)"If you want to be a real farmer and you want to truly learn the horticulture, the remedies and the propagation of cannabis, you don't get to cut and run. A real farmer accepts his mistakes and will do everything in their power to remedy those mistakes until the bitter end. If the crop still fails the farmer cannot be faulted for not trying. A farmer can be faulted if they cut and run without an attempt and this isn't true growing. Many farmers don't have the choice to cut and run, either. For them, their crop is their livelihood and to lose it would be devastating. So, even if you're not a true cannabis farmer yet, act like your crop is your livelihood and that it must be saved and/or maintained at any cost. In future you won't hesitate to fix your mistakes and be far more willing to accept and remedy them". There was more to what he said, but this is the long and short of it. I didn't listen to my grower buddies/acquaintances and took the advice to at the very least, try and be a real farmer and fix my mistakes. Remedies and Fixes used until Positive results: 1. Drilled numerous extra holes in bottom of plastic pots with a fan pointing into the pan and rebounding back up in an attempt to pull some of the water from the soil. Damaged roots while doing, but no choice. Result: Didn't work. Still no proper aeration and the girls stayed water logged. 2. Took 2" of top soil off the pot and replaced with highly conditioned Dutch Treat potting soil in another attempt to aerate the lower half a bit better. Result: Didn't work. Improved Aeration and dissipated moisture but I'm still root bound and semi-water logged w/ deficiencies. 3. No choice but to transplant. I knew fully that no matter what I did at this point, it wasn't going to fix all the problems I had. Time to do an emergency pot up. Purchased x4, 3 gallon fabric geopots and moved them quickly. Should have done this first. Result: It worked and again, should have been my first course of action ( You live you learn). Soil dried and I was finally able to tackle my deficiency problem now. The girls got a balanced micro/grow/bloom w/ cal-mag treatment as soon possible and both visible deficiencies subsided or halted within 2 days. GG#4, plant #1 became the runt here. The cal-mag deficiency pulled most the chlorophyll from a few of it's main fan leaves and eventually I had to cut them when they started to dry up and furl. This did fix them up. After a week or so the bound roots started to make their way into the fresh 3.5 inches of soil, deficiencies dropped, color came back in full and the speedy Vegetative growth was back in full swing. #1 just stayed a little smaller with a noticeably smaller main stem. I don't care, I was very happy and felt like a good farmer for not giving up and pitching them. At the time of this retro-active Veg diary, my plants are 4 days away from the chop w/ what looks like a very healthy, abundant and potent crop. To think if I was to abandon them like I had planned, I'd never get to see them in all their glory today. DON'T GIVE UP! IT'S NOT OVER UNTIL IT'S OVER!
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Grow Questions
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowsstarted grow question 5 years ago
To support the weight of my colas in the near future, I was planning on using a non static ribbon, but if there are ANY other better methods to reduce knocking the plants around please feel free to share. Thanks!
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DankGardener
DankGardeneranswered grow question 5 years ago
Yes there are I use plant yoyos cheap and won't hurt the plant. There are other options to like for instance a tell is good option, bamboo stakes, tomato rings and cages. Check out my last harvest I had plant yoyos.
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowsstarted grow question 4 years ago
"Survey Says!". Wrapping this grow up and germinating my new crop the same day as these girls get cut down (gotta keep it legal๐Ÿ˜‰). My question is Blue cookies, fem or NL fem. If you've grown them please weigh in!!! I'm torn on what to pick, for reals.
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Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimaranswered grow question 4 years ago
I5s a question on how challenging you like it^^ and if you are a stativa or aindica person. Bluecookies May be more challenging/ ( blue family) but you will have a nice tasting harvest very fruity ( more sativa)..... Northern light is such agood to grow classy strain with more indica and a nice lemony smell and taste. I dont know which you choose both are great
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Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 19
Iam atm a big fan of the " blue Family".. ive grown the BlueDream, and starting blueberry cheescake today. But NL is such a nice Strain and easieset to grow. With a nice harvest
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimar
@JinksyGrows,taggin means just take an @ in frot of someones name and write it down your diry , his / her diary.... or in the comments anywhere....then i see that youve written something for me.. or just tell t to me per pm. you can read / write pm in looking at the right bottom of your screen there is a little " paperplane" ( under the arrow) just click on it and a private section opens, you see that you have messages if the paperlane is green( ive written yesterday a pm to you)
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrows
@Mrs_Larimar, No problem at all! And absolutely I'll tag you in my NL and Do Si Do grow...just as soon as I figure out how to do that, lol! Still haven't learned all this site has to offer, but I'll find out how to tag you and it would be a definite pleasure to include you on my future progress/grows. Thank you again for your support. It does mean the world to a lot of us newbies and we certainly need peoples like you to guide us! You're awesome!โœŠ๐Ÿ‘ P.S. Figured out how to tag. You'll see yourself on the NL grow in roughly a week from today๐Ÿ‘Œ
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimar
@JinksyGrows, hahah thats nice. NL is always a good choice.... thaknkfor choosing my answer. Happy growing and pls tag me in yourr NL grow
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Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 19
veeery well done!!! nice pics of yor Harvest
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 19
Very well done with the GG#4 Happy harvest. After reading your Diary iam very impressed. This grow had ( even in the Beginning) a lot of Lessons for you. You mastered them very well
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 19
Congratulations to your Beautiful Diary and for your Silvercup!!!! thats a great Thing. happy celebrating your win
Master_weeda
Master_weedaweek 19
Congratulations to you my friend For your price! ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ† Beautiful harvest in 20 weeks more! ๐Ÿ˜ I'm happy to follow you I immediately felt that you hold the strength ๐Ÿ’ช welcome to the masters jedis ๐Ÿ˜‰
Master_weeda
Master_weedaweek 16
May the force be with you ๐Ÿ’ช nice garden
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrows
@Master_weeda, That means a lot, man. Thank you. I'll keep it up and keep learning๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘
Master_weeda
Master_weeda
@JinksyGrows,the advice I can give you is to continue like this! You are a very good farmer kudos to you ๐Ÿ™ Good luck and may the force be with you ๐Ÿ’ช
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrows
@Master_weeda, Thanks man! I checked out your grows, very nice! If you have any advice or see anything wrong with my grow please don't hesitate to through me some grow knowledge!
I_and_I
I_and_Iweek 19
Awesome grow friend, gg4 is a quality smoke ๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿ‘ a stray seed got jnto my first grow of bag seed, eternally glad that it did haha Very informative at every step, you say your a newbie but I would not have known until I read you say it haha ๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ’ช respect
I_and_I
I_and_I
@JinksyGrows, that's it man, when you recognise there's always something new to learn, ways to improve to make yourself a better version of whatever the endeavour is, rather than sit on one way thinking its as good as it gets ๐Ÿ˜Ž Then you will always have room to improve Its a good thing to have to use your time on, a grow, you need mental and physical stimulation or you have to long to dwell on the negative I actually tried to grow another bag seed gg4 at the start of this grow but there was something badly wrong from the get go, and I let it go, I had more than enough for my space anyway, and also the gorilla zkittlez but that's basically the only plant I've lost, and it wasn't through mistake, soil seems fairly forgiving which is useful I think it's always worth having a gorilla in the tent in some form or another Peace mon
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrows
@I_and_I, Haha, thank you kindly. I am certainly a newbie but put quite a bit into further learning. Unemployment allows for these things, Lol! Things have been going pretty well and I'm hoping grow #3 will be even more fruitful๐Ÿ˜Š. Little scared though. I haven't had a big eff up yet or lost a plant and I'm paranoid now. hahaha. Give me two weeks and it'll pass๐Ÿ˜‰. And GG!?! Ummm, I want to try a lot of strains, but after this first grow w/ GG, I keep feeling like I want to do a full 4 plant run of them. I loved it man. It does a lot for me and it was really depressing when I ran out. Can't find it anywhere either! So, going to grow it again and stock pile a large amount๐Ÿ‘(Grow #4...maybe). And lucky you finding a stray GG. Gift from the cannabis God's.๐Ÿ˜€
CrankledLarkus
CrankledLarkusweek 19
Looks like a very fine product! I've never grown it myself, but have had GG4 before and your description was bang on for what my experience was with it. Great job!
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrows
@CrankledLarkus, Thanks so much for your kind words! It was a great experience and it's great smoke. Already on to the next project! Happy growing my friend. Cheers and fun out there.
BeanswithPork
BeanswithPorkweek 8
Nice job with the simplicity of the clips. I will look to use the same with various tying. Thanks for the insight there, Jinks101.
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrows
@@BeanswithPork, Hey Beans, thanks for checking out the diary and for dropping a message๐Ÿ‘Š Yah! Those clips are a god send. Also work really well for wire/cable management and hanging lite weight devices and probes๐Ÿ‘. Cheers man and happy grows.
ghostface00132
ghostface00132week 19
Looking great brother, keep up the good work. give them another week they will ripen off perfectly. Your doing a fab job and thanks for following me.
Master_weeda
Master_weedaweek 16
Second like for weedawan Good luck for your grow ๐Ÿ˜‰๐ŸŒฑ
Buddha2
Buddha2week 19
Great result. Congratulations!
JP148
JP148
@JinksyGrows, I too have had alcohol issues. Been sober coming up on Four yrs. Thats the same amount of time Iโ€™ve done in jail because of drinking throughout my life. Weed has helped immensely with my chronic pain, anxiety, sleep, appetite and cravings. Never lost friends, wife, jobs, driverโ€™s license, freedom and respect due to weed. Wish I could say the same about booze. Better late then never but wish my Father, Mother and brother lived to see me get sober but wasnโ€™t to be. Congrats to you. Never an easy task. My private chat is always here to talk if or when things get trying.
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrows
@Buddha2, I'm sincerely sorry you have/had to wait so long. That being said, you're right, better late then never! You do you and enjoy your medicine and all the plant babies. Governments be damned. And yes! Everything's out there and available, especially information. Makes the learning curve a lot less sharp๐Ÿ˜„.
Buddha2
Buddha2
@JinksyGrows, yes, it is indeed frustrating. The demonization of cannabis is one of the biggest tragedies of mankind. And while there is some progress meanwhile, it is hard to stay patient. Sooner or later I will be running out of (life-)time. I'm waiting for legalization since almost 40 years now. And I'm a bit angry about myself that I started growing only lately. But better late than never. At least now there is no more stress with organizing the supply ๐Ÿ˜‡
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raptor65
raptor65week 18
They are looking wicked mate ๐Ÿ˜Ž, good luck with your yield ๐Ÿ‘, gonna be great smoke ๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ‘Š
raptor65
raptor65
@JinksyGrows, LOL, I know where your coming from , Have fun,๐Ÿ˜‰
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrows
@raptor65, I live in Alberta and I hear you loud and clear. -40 outside isn't good for anyone or anything, even growing indoors. I'm growing through the winter but itll cost me power for sure. lol. Hoping there's not going to be too much of am issue. I'm an electrician as well and calculated all my loads including a couple mini ceramic heaters. Looks like I'm pushing the breaker, but it should all be fine....I hope. Wouldn't look good if an electrician burnt down his own house, hahaha.
raptor65
raptor65
@JinksyGrows, I'll be starting my next grow in March ,winter in canada is a bad time to start my project, I would need too much power for heating and that would be too expensive for me , I did just order my seeds with seedsman for my next grow ( got a good deal),really looking forward till the time to start ,not wishing my time away LOL, But thanks for asking about my next grow , I'll keep my eye on ya mate , good luck
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Visions
Visionsweek 18
Looking fucking tasty dude ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿ’จ๐Ÿ‘ฝ
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrows
@Visions, Haha, then yep, we're literally on the same schedule then. Looking at Nov. 6th/7th for the chop.
Visions
Visions
@JinksyGrows, yes sir only a week or so to go ๐Ÿ˜Ž
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrows
@Visions, thank ya very much. Same with your gsc. Looking dandy man. Also looks like we'll have roughly the same harvest time๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘
JP148
JP148week 19
Nice grow congrats ๐ŸŒฑ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ’
JP148
JP148
@JinksyGrows, Thanks yeah this one came out better then first GG. Even removed that dairy. Iโ€™m in a NE US. state and GG grown outside holds up and produces much better outside then any indoor grow I seen. THC ranges for โ€œ This is nice โ€œ to โ€œ wholly fuck Iโ€™m stoned โ€œ Lol Also GG is not a crazy smelly strain making it great for unnoticed gorilla grows.
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrows
@@JP148, Thanks brother. It was a pretty decent first go at it and as discussed, GG is solid๐Ÿ‘Œ
DankGardener
DankGardenerweek 16
Yes there are I use plant yoyos cheap and won't hurt the plant. There are other options to like for instance a tell is good option, bamboo stakes, tomato rings and cages. Check out my last harvest I had plant yoyos.
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrows
@DankGardener, Just checked it out, looks like the yoyos are the way to go and the easiest to apply. Thanks again for the heads up and advice. Just ordered a 5 pack from Amazon. Cheers
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrows
@DankGardener, Hey! Thanks so much. Never heard of plant yoyo's before and will look into them right away. I currently have 5' bamboo stakes and was going to use those, but was afraid they'd be too cumbersome to apply. That being said, I'll check out your grows and see how others implement that bamboo stakes for optimal support. Thanks again! I really appreciate it.
BeanswithPork
BeanswithPorkweek 19
Great detail to top it all off Jinks101, good harvest entry especially. Well done overall.
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrows
@@BeanswithPork, Thanks a bunch Beans. I appreciates it and I'm happy you're kicking around! ๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ‘ Cheers man. Happy Trails.
McCanna_420
McCanna_420week 19
Congratulations on your Newbie win!! Very well done!! ๐Ÿ’š๐ŸŒฑ๐Ÿ‘Š
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrows
@@McCanna_420, Thank you kindly๐Ÿ˜Š. I look forward to doing this for a lifetime, now. Lol.
Girlybudz
Girlybudzweek 19
They look amazing!! I am excited for the future of my plants after seeing yours. Looking forward to your future grow as well. My vote is one each NL, and Blue cookies.
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrows
@Girlybudz, Thanks so, so much. I'm so excited! And I'm sure your ladies will grow beautifully! No doubt. And thank you. Your my first vote on BC or NL. And your advice is probably what I'll do. Cant hurt to have 3 strains instead of two๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ˜„.
BuddingBudda
BuddingBuddaweek 18
Looking good, going to get a really nice yield from all that, and cant go wrong with GG #4 ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ‘Œ
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrows
@BuddingBudda, Thanks so much๐Ÿ™‚! I'm quite excited for my first harvest. And you're absolutely right, I love GG4 and I felt it was a great strain to start with. Always works for me๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘. Thanks again, man. This is why I love this site. We all cheer one another on and wish success on others๐Ÿ™‚๐Ÿ‘. It's great sharing a community with good/helpful peoples like yourself.