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@BigDaddyK, yeah I've heard that.. . I tried a soil grow. . and it's just so slow I find ...Hydro forever.... I am so very careful.... what I do is take it out of the soil scoop it up put it in a bowl of water rinsert it oh so gently. .add it to the Rock wool... put it in the cup with the clay pellets. . Bada Boom Bada Bing ...it just works the best for me ....I really tried with soil.... because I figured it would be less maintenance.... but it's just so slow