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*fail*Stealth apartment 2x4 grow, round

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Custom Breeder & Strain
FLO
Fission 300W LED/340W
Custom
Indoor
Room Type
100%
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Grow medium
4 L
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DAY 8 - Plant #1
DAY 8 - Plant #2
DAY 8 - Calcium deficiency
Grow Conditions
Week 2
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wreckbeast wreckbeast
5 years ago
+++++++++DAY 8 VEG+++++++++ Plants look slight bit less sickly then yesterday. Runoff checking in at around 6.5 this time, thank god. Since I am having trouble amending my RO, I used 1/3 tap water and let the chlorine off-gas overnight. water pH'd around 6.3 before i used it. I might try buying Botanicare Calplex, it seems like a good solution for buffering my RO and adding calcium. Plants are definitely showing signs of calcium deficiency. I had added Roots Organics Elemental to their tea, and also assume there should be some calcium in the compost and soil i used. I'm guessing this is due to the pH more than feeding, as these are only week old clones. I suppose it could also be a root issue, since they were only transplanted a week ago. Stems an petioles still reddish (Potassium deficiency) I really need to top these today... i was hoping to wait until they recover from transplant shock, but they are 10" tall now. Cut both plants above the fifth node. Maybe I'll look more into FIMing next time around. For the first time I am not seeing any thrips. I will hold of on the Lost Coast Plant Therapy today, but will consider reapplying tomorrow. +++++++++DAY 9 VEG+++++++++ Runoff for plant #1 at 6.5, Runoff for plant #1 at 6.8. They seem to be recovering, the petioles on topmost fan leaves are regaining a greener color. I guess the lesson is that my combination of FFOF soil, compost, and coco will be acidic from the start, and needs to be corrected. I'm guessing dolomite lime will need to be added. Despite plants being stressed, I had to start LST as they are close to 11" tall. I kinked the stem on plant #2, but I have read that this shouldn't do much harm. +++++++++DAY 10 VEG+++++++++ Ph reading at 6.5 & 6.7 respectively, recovery continues. I was surprised to find that the roots are already reaching out of the bottom of the one gallon pot. I think next water will just use some Roots Organics elemental, maybe some kelp extract. Whats the deal with molasses? Cali green amends his water with molasses and kelp extract in one video. Hit them with the Lost Coast Plant Therapy again... Didn't see any thrips, but they recommend using a maintenance dosage after they clear up. +++++++++DAY 11 VEG+++++++++ Lower branches are beginning to sprout due to the LST. Plant #1 seems much more vigorous than plant #2, which I expected. #2 bore the brunt of the thrips AND the pH issue. Upper stem/fan leaf petioles are still showing red, but new growth is looking green. I've been watering a lot to address the pH issue, but I think that's okay with my 30%Coco and 10%perlite being present... I'm gonna let them dry down today, and then hit them tomorrow with water amended with Roots Organics Elemental. No thrips in the sticky traps, and none seen on leaves. +++++++++DAY 12 VEG+++++++++ Two days without water and they are still moist but pots are very light. Hopefully this encouraged the roots to expand a bit. Top-dressed with some Mycorhizzae, as well as 1/2tsp each of Roots Organics Terp Tea Grow. Mixed up 1/2 gallon of water with 1/2 teaspoon of Roots Organics elemental, and 1oz Growmore seaweed extract. Ph'd to 6.3, and watered. +++++++++DAY 13 VEG+++++++++ I GOT A BLUELAB pH PEN! Finally! While I had been aware of the importance of pH since I started months ago, I had consigned myself to using pH paper as a tester. I was (and am) on a very stricy budget, and had been waffling between different pH testers based on quality and price. I scored a like-new Bluelab PenpH on Offerup for $30, and my local grow store calibrated it for free! Sweet! I had reserved a bit of the amended water from yesterday, and even threw in a tsp of Vital Earth compost, letting it bubble in my tent overnight. I adjusted it from 7.7 to 6.5 with lemon juice, and watered. The runoff for plant #1 was 7.8, and #2 was 8.1! I'm gonna water and check runoff everyday until it reaches 6.5, I can't believe these clones have survived so far. They were kept in open air in a dispensary for a month, and then I absolutely tortured them with pH swings. IT'S BEEN REAL... PULLING THE PLUG ON THESE GIRLS, GONNA FIRE UP SOME SEEDS IMMEDIATELY
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kaneownz
kaneownzcommentedweek 15 years ago
Loving the grow and its inspiring me to set my own up for the first time. Im worried about temperature control in the tent how do you deal with that?. Also, do you mind sharing your tips for ventilation? Specifically where do you run you vent out to. Is it dangerous to vent the air from the tent into an apartment room? Does it need to go outside the apartment the be safe? Hows the heat output coming from that BCBLONDE 340w? Im starting my first grow in a 2x4 GGT as soon as all materials arrive :) Looking for an end game light and saw your set up and im impressed.
wreckbeast
wreckbeastcommented5 years ago
@kaneownz, Once again, I wanna point out that I just started growing, so take my advice with that in mind : ) Don't worry about the model of inkbird... what you gotta do is first determine the conditions of your grow room (get that govee thermoeter/hygromete r with wifi), THEN decide what appliances you need (humidifier/dehumidifier, Air conditioner/heater), and only THEN do you logically determine whether you need an inkbird. Some of the appliances will have controllers built-in. The AC Infinity T6 would be a good choice... This is the model with the controller, which is definitely the one you want. I have the Hyperfan6 MixFlow Fan, with the Hyper Climate Control controller. I purchased the fan used for $90, and the controller new for around $90. The AC infinity is probably plenty of fan for your needs. I will attest that they refunded me in full when i needed to upgrade from the ACInfinity "4, so I can attest to their customer support. 2 carbon filters is only necessary if you are very worried about smell... It's probably a waste of money. The air exhausting out of your tent will be oxygenated by your plants, and also filtered, so if anything it will be very healthy for you! Tap water is alright if its not too hard... Unfortunately for me, my tap has ppm's above 400! I currently purchase RO water from a local water store (city life), but I am honestly struggling to re-add minerals to it properly. Since I am growing organic, I do like that RO contains no chlorine/chloramines. If you let your tap water sit out overnight, the chlorine should off-gas, but the chloramines will remain. Jeff Lowenfels is the godfather of organic cannabis, and he is fine with using tap water that has had time to off gas, provided your ppm's aren't too high like mine. I really like the BCBlonds light, but be very careful of your bank charging you a currency exchange fee... I think Wells Fargo charged me like $30 or something to buy from a Canadian store.
kaneownz
kaneownzcommented5 years ago
@wreckbeast, thanks for all the detail!! Lots of tips and things to take into consideration as I build so thank you very much. Are you able to tell me which model of the InkBird you have and I should get I see a few on amazon. Hmm... I also wanted to buy the AC infinity T6 but now youve got me conflicted on if I should go with the a better one. Which model of the hyperfan do you have? I see its a bit more expensive but noise and power are important to me. I plan on using 2 carbon filters to be extra careful. And specifically with the ventilation I was worried that the carbon filters or something may be putting out bad air I wouldnt want to inhale. Im most likely going to order the same light so Im def following your grow store. I plan on using tap water as I dont know if its possible or wise to use a RO system in my apartment.
wreckbeast
wreckbeastcommented5 years ago
@kaneownz, Hey, thanks! You're my first comment, and I appreciate the interest : ) I am a beginner, but I think the tent environment is something a can speak on a little. Temperature control varies greatly depending on your light, and the ambient temperature of the room you keep your tent in. Sources of heat will be your light, and a heater if you need one. Air conditioners will be used to lower temp. What is really important is tracking the temperature swings with one of these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FBCTQ3L/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 You can't maintain a good environment without having accurate measurements. I can check my tent environment measurements from my phone with this device, its unbelievably great. It also keeps a history that you can look back on. Once you know what the temps are, you can start controlling them with your fan, or with a heater/air conditioner. I recommend an InkBird temperature controller that will turn your heater or AC on/off based on the temperature inside your tent. The ACInfinity fans have a model that will spin the fan up to a higher speed when the temperature hits a setpoint. My hyperfan does the same, but it requires a $90 module to do that. I vent out to my window. I have a 6'inch duct that travels about 10'. The 6 inch fan is definitely overkill, but I wanted to compensate for the back pressure a long exhaust vent introduces, and also am considering upgrading to a 4x4 in the future. A 4" fan should be plenty of exhaust otherwise.Venting to a window keeps the fresh air coming in so that the plant doesn't choke itself by consuming all of the CO2. You can vent to your room, but fresh air(C02) is best, i keep a window cracked for make-up air. Smell can also be an issue unless you have a good carbon filter, but i do both... I have a carbon filter AND I vent outside. One thing to consider is fan noise... they can be louder and more annoying than you'd expect. I spent the extra cash for a hyperfan stealth, its great. I had an ACInfinity 4", but I returned it. I think all of the back pressure was messing with it and it was shutting itself off, but it was very quiet as well. I am not sure what you mean by "dangerous", but i don't think venting inside is ideal for your plants. The BCBlonds light throws very little heat, I have read, but its my first light so I don't truly have any experience to compare it to. Its really nice though, the steel enclosure feels like a nice guitar pedal or something. Everyone is talking about the Mars Hydro TS1000 right now, but I'd guess the BCBlonds stands up to it. The guy that makes them is sooo nice, and you can actually call him anytime with grow questsions, surprisingly. I have heard that Mars Hydro is a Chinese company and offers very little support. He also includes a transferrable warranty too, i forget how long it is. Seems like a very trustworthy business to me. Cheers!