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Main-Lining
weeks 5-10
Defoliation
weeks 8-9, 11, 15
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Grow medium
8 L
Pot Size
0.3 L
Watering
Grow Conditions
Week 11
Vegetation
18
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Height
18 hrs
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8+ conditions after
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Laktofol - 9-3-4 / MG -2
10 ml/l
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Defoliation
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tapciganin tapciganin
4 years ago
Heyooo! Some good news first, this week has been pretty sunny and hot so this gal here is streching a bit. I gave her a haircut, meaning I cut everything below the topmost node in order to defoliate a bit and more importantly slow her down. My cat knocked something on top of it and the stem split >< I tied it up and it seems to be doing well, so that's great. I think this might be its final veg week? It all depends on how the AK/WWidow are doing. Remember that it's always a beautiful day to be alive and keep growing, friends! โœŒ๏ธ๐ŸŒฟ
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blendmedmedman
blendmedmedmancommentedweek 164 years ago
this is no good so sorry, lots of stress, heat issues, not enough cool water, roots dried out fats and in return plant died off, lack of water and heat. plants are like babies you have to take care of them and give them attention, it happens to us all. we have to remember we are the care givers and we are in charge of making them happy and give them everything they need. light, air and food and water, thats it, now if one or more of those things are off, well the plant shows signs and will tell you, if you do not fix the little stuff it becomes a bigger problem. while you left on holiday your plants prob. showed signs, little things that prob went unnoticed, not enough water and the heat evaporated the water fast, dried out the soil and in the soil the roots dried out. to fix for next time i would suggest using kelp in your nutrients, kelp is used to help plants deal with heat. if you know it will soon get hot give kelp a few times before the heat, kelp helps the plant deal with stress better, kelp is also good for that nice green in the plant itself and keeps the plant in some what good shape. if you start having problems, 1. check your ph, ph being off can start harming the plant in a negative way, get the ph right and you take away a lot of deficiencies right away as the roots are happy and will take up the nutrients they need,, also you may want to add a cal mag to the line up, cal mag helps the plant build up good cells, and it is kind of like a sugar. last you should also consider adding silica. silica helps the cells in the plant to stay strog and also helps growth, your plants would be really happy. last each and every time you water or feed, you want a little run off, this lets you know you gave the plant water and her pot is full. what i do is i go by weight of the pot, i water good the first time when it is a young seedling, i pick the pot up and i feel the weight, now though out the plants life i pick the pot up, if it is still kind of heavy i dont water, if it is lighter than it should i water, you also have to check on the plants and spend time with them. we live and learn, with each grow we do we get better, do not let these little set backs get to you, most plant will do what they are supposed to do, some times we do something to mess that up, sometimes something happens that is out of our control, things will work out and you will have a great harvest when it does, so dont give up
occultgreen420
occultgreen420commentedweek 134 years ago
potassium deficit...really something that you have to get rid of and adjust very fast! can lead to smaller yield. Review the watering technique, this is usually the 1st thing that lead to this type of deficit. When watering too less (quantity) and there is no run off on the bottom tray, then the ph inside the pot is getting more and more alkaline which pushes the roots to buildup salts on the small roots and this leads to the potassium deficit, because the plant's channels to absorb it are blocked. Most people will think it's nutrient burn and start pushing more nutrients in the plant, but in the same way, with no proper run off in the bottom tray and this will become a total chaos; give slow 1L-1.5L of water with good nutrients every 2nd day (no need for ph down), let it drain well in the bottom tray and the excess throw it away... best of luck with the grow! it's early so you can corrected, no worries.
tapciganin
tapciganincommented4 years ago
@@occultgreen420, Thank you for the tips mate, always helpful :) What you're essentially suggesting is a flush....I'll give it a go and report back
occultgreen420
occultgreen420commentedweek 25 years ago
diatomaceous earth (you can get it online), it's organic! just sprinkle it with your mix, sprinkle it above the soil. it prevents bugs, larvae, everything! stay away from pesticides dude! you are going to use the final product, pesticides are not a good option. Good luck!
tapciganin
tapciganincommented5 years ago
@@occultgreen420, thank you for taking the time for these detailed explanations, mate! ๐Ÿ™ It's helping a lot! I found a seller here in my country that sells Diatomaceous earth for about 7 euros per 125g. I think I'll hit 'em up and try your methods :)
occultgreen420
occultgreen420commented5 years ago
@tapciganin, you are most welcome, I had issues with gnats in the past and they are really a stress. If plant is well established, then gnats will not affect it, but if it's yet small, the larvae will eat from the new roots and plant will stay small. Diatomaceous earth are small very sharp particles so the gnats and larvae will be cut open and feed the soil. Takes a while until the pest it's fully gone, but it works. Diatomaceous earth has the texture of...icy sugar, very fine. Use a spoon and a strainer to sprinkle on the surface of the soil, then mix gently in the soil, then apply another sprinkle. All this preferable after you water. Have yellow traps prepared as well. Sometimes a small plastic bottle with some mix of water and vinegar will attract and drown the gnats and can be of extra help. Whatever you do, do not use pesticides. Final product will be most likely inhaled in your lungs by smoking it so has to be as clean and as organic as it can be! (imo) Best of luck.
tapciganin
tapciganincommented5 years ago
@@occultgreen420, Thanks for the comment, mate! This sounds promising, I will definitely look into it :) Thanks for the tip
occultgreen420
occultgreen420commentedweek 164 years ago
did you leave any water while gone? this plants are highly hydrophilic. During flowering the water consumption will increase even more. So 7 days without water can kill a plant no probs. best of luck in the future!
DoDrugs420
DoDrugs420commented4 years ago
@tapciganin, i got mine under direct sun the full day at 40ยฐ somedays up to 44ยฐ, and its still prosucing buds of the size of the plant itself. I think something else went wrong, some plants take heat better but it may have been something else.
tapciganin
tapciganincommented4 years ago
@@occultgreen420, Yeah watering schedule didn't change, my brother had them watered every 2 days. It's just the heat got pretty unbearable I think. 35 degrees is tad too much haha :D I need to figure out better ways to control the heat.
occultgreen420
occultgreen420commentedweek 15 years ago
Hi buddy! balcony grows are really cool! especially if you have all the conditions. This ones will be outdoors until the end? that means you'll harvest around September/October. ๐Ÿ˜† Really cool projects ahead! What plans do you have for containers? You want to have more of a horizontal grow? Man...this ones can be as huge as you permit them to be, giving the proper conditions! Best of luck with them, it will be cool to watch. Also it is worth keeping them organic. Look up Air-pots, if you have the chance to get them, are incredible for soil growing!
occultgreen420
occultgreen420commented5 years ago
@tapciganin, dude...unfortunately there is no way to induce flowering earlier. To induce flowering you need 12h light with 12 h dark periods. To move a monster back and forth from the balcony to the bathroom...it is not a solution even if you have it on wheels. Tough to depend every day at an exact hour to move back and forth a plant. I would leave it be and enjoy the company until Autumn, do lots of toppings, LST, manifolding etc, get to know the plant and enjoy it. For the next projects, if you want them shorter, then go for Ruderalis strains, the Autos. They will finish in ~110-120 days from germination, with no dependency on light schedule. The outdoor plants are a bit more stretchy and slightly slower then the indoor ones, but overall, much more sturdier and will become huge. Wait for it to develop at least 5-6 knots (it will take around 30+ days) then cut above the 4th node. Leave the 3rd and 4th node with their 2 branches each side and clear the rest. This should be your first topping and if you wait until this time, branches will be long enough to undertake a good LST without breaking the branches. For a horizontal grow you'll also need some sort of a screen as well. Airpots are brilliant, they will help produce more root mass and more flowers. All the best, will be watching the grow
tapciganin
tapciganincommented5 years ago
@@occultgreen420, Thanks for the comment mate! Yeah, I am still unsure how to handle the whole "trick them into flower before autumn" thing... I don't really have any easy way to provide them with 12 hours of darkness in order to start the flowering artificially. I could lock them in my bathroom every night for a period of time - no windows in there, pretty dark. However would it be enough just to trigger flowering there? Or would I need to keep them locked up every night until harvest? I don't really know the answers here, do you have any idea? ๐Ÿคจ As for the pots, air pots are a brilliant idea! I have only read about them, but now I'm actually going to buy some from the local grow shop, thanks for the tip ๐Ÿ˜‡ Finally I plan on bending the hell out of them. LST and Main-lining will be my main techniques. The goal here is definitely a more horizontal grow as you mentioned. ๐Ÿ‘‰ It will be a great learning experience for sure, can't wait ๐Ÿ™Œ
deletethisaccount
deletethisaccountcommentedweek 114 years ago
ah damn a split, You had a big nub there so i'm surprised it spilt on you
tapciganin
tapciganincommented4 years ago
@@deletethisaccount, yeah no issues whatsoever before my cat pushed a drying rack on top of it ๐Ÿ˜…
Growingkitten
Growingkittencommentedweek 85 years ago
Good luck with ur grow!๐Ÿ˜บ