To DE or not to DE

@GreenHouseLab,@@BeanswithPork Okay. Trimming is barbaric, i literally pinch the stem and yank off all flower and it gets tossed in the trimmer. So trimming is the same chore for almost all my plnts. I hand trim prize colas only. Crowns were all similar. The non defo had an 18g dry main cola, which is nice. More larf on non defo, but it just makes its way into the spinner and becomes hash. My main benchmark was the 20g weight diff. There is a balance somewhere that a certain amount of defo will benefit airflow, and too kuch causes lower yields. I dont care too much. It shows that i can still attain my hoal with defo or not, but may get more with no defo. Will still trial and adapt

@@BeanswithPork, same here

@@BeanswithPork, youre a shenanigans. They get two main defos 1 at flip 1 at f21. Other than that, i cant rrally get to em for maintenance. Not a perfect test, if i find a vast difference one way or the other, i will refine a test on the next run

@BudXs, Some techniques adopted from large-scale commercial cannabis growers, like lollipopping, simply aren't applicable to small-scale subsistence farmers with very limited space and a high rate of consumption, like me. I have found over the decades that adopting the Native American hunting philosophy works best for me. When hunting for meat, they also use the antlers, horns, tusks, bones, and teeth as tools and weapons. They use the organs as medicine and sinew for cordage. They use the hides as clothing and such. They use the the smaller bits as fish bait...etc..etc.. If I am gonna dedicate prime indoor garden real-estate, and take the time to grow a plant, spend money on the electricity and nutrients for it, etc....I want to get every last trichome off of the plant through one method or another. In just my last harvest, I had a full quart jar of lower nuggs and larfy bud from each of the 13 plants..which translated to 18 grams of bubble hash, and maybe 4 grams of rosin. I use any larfy bud to fill in the pre-press mold with the nuggs and it binds it all together really well, or I decarb it and use it to make e-liquid or cannabutter...waste not, want not.

@Silverback_Guerilla, will weigh all buds. Will do apex colas too. If im getting the weight i lost to larf put back into my top buds, we all win. Dunno, will see, this is a decent test to satisfy my knowledge thirst

@BudXs, So, will you just weigh the apex colas from the un-defo'd and the defo'd plants as comparison, or will you weigh all buds from each plant? Or, both measures? If the plants are equal in all the other criterion and each weigh 70g+, I predict there will be less than 3 grams difference in the apex cola weights, and the plant without defo's total bud weight will be about 20g heavier than the defo'd plant...in other words, I predict that you will lose a half ounce or more in total yield by defoliating and lollipopping all those lowers. As I said before...it makes no sense at all to me to throw away the lower 1/3 of your plant...especially early on in the grow... Increasing light to those lower buds converts them from larf to nuggs..so, by lollipopping, you are throwing away potential nuggs... If you are growing for the purpose of selling your produce, then I get it..you only want the stuff with the best bag appeal, but if you are growing for your own consumption, why not maximize your yields?? The lower, lesser-quality buds, at harvest, have nearly as high a THC concentration as your apex cola..they just aren't pretty. But they are perfect for rosin pressing or other extractions. And...if you must defo because you can't buy a bigger fan to prevent mold, at least defo later, in flower, when the leaves have had a chance to produce some THC and it's worthwhile to be put into the trim bag for a bubble hash run.

@GreenHouseLab, it looks that way, and to be expected on account of penetration. These plants stretched insane. I did see a noticeable difference in the quality of lowers being better on the defo. Also, weight seems to be on the defo side. That bejng said, im sure i lost a lot of larf on the non defo to my spin trimmer

@BudXs, what is your current observation?s do you have higher quality flower from the top 1/3

@GreenHouseLab, clones

@@BeanswithPork, he really doesnt

@Med_in_Tropic,thanks Med. Yes, one of the two BB's was left unplucked and not lollipopped. Will be interesting, no doubt

@BudXs, 👍💚

@PotCasso, the entire diary is a comparison of defoliation. Not asking if i should