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DIY Cheap Noob Indoor Amnesia Haze grow

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Symbiosis_420 Symbiosis_420
4 years ago
Ok, so first of all I am still pretty noob at this. This is the start of my second growth, the first growth was a test of my setup on a "blueberry" canuk seed that came for free when I bought the RQS Amnesia Haze. I did got a nice harvest, very potent (for my taste at least) and with a very fruity smell (its true, it does really taste like blueberries!). The whole premise of this growth is use the cheapest/most cost-effective tools I can, while at the same time being noob friendly (cause I am still learning myself). I dont want to spend too much money/time/effort on this growth, besides the initial investment to set up everything. Actually, it was kind of the point, I really didnt have the time or money to go out and buy expensive equipment or nutes for growing what might end being a death plant (cause of lack of experience, and I did almost killed the blueberry by overfeeding), and I just wanted to give it a try to see if I like growing plants (spoiler alert, I did! I now also have lettuce and peppers growing outdoors). I decided to create this diary, the investment involved with growing your own cannabis is generally a barrier to get started. Maybe others can be inspired by a cheapo approach, with decent results and dip their toes into this magical world. Here is my setup which you could see in one of the pictures: 1. My nutrients are what you would buy for garden plants or even grass. I only supplement with epsom salt (MgSo4) and eggshells on vinager (Ca + H2O). You will see in the picture that they are bought on the dollar store always around 3 CAD ( I have one that is 15-30-15 and another that the bag is not in the picture of 15-0-15). ( I actually only used about 15% or less of each bag on the first growth). 2. Growing tent was made by lining the corners of a room with aluminium foil/cardboard to create a closed environment for when I have to flower in darkness and to bounce the light back inside a little bit, I added a CPU fan for airflow. 3. The LEDS are actually cheap COBs from china (bought in aliexpress for about 4 CAD each [full spectrum, 3500K 50W each of the 4 for a total of 200W], and I bought some CPU heatsinks from the same site for about 6 CAD each). I literally held them together with sticks and tape but it worked, so I am happy about that. I also have them on a dollar store auto timer to control ON/OFF time. 5. The only other tools that I did bought were a EC/ppm meter and a pH meter also from china for about 5 cad total. As I noob, I sure as hell had no idea how to feed a plant, and how to tell the pH of my water with the limus paper (I guess I am kinda colorblind). With these meters (which I bought at week 4 of flowering of the blueberry growth, because I simply couldn't figure out if I was giving too little or too much nutrients) one can make sure that the water being fed to the plants is appropriate, check the runoff of the water to make sure that the soil isnt retaining too many salts and needs flushing, and to see when you are done flushing also! 6. Soil is cheap dollar store soil. The cheapest I could find. Right now my seedling just came out of the seed, so I haven't gotten it into the growing tent, it sits in my desk directly below a dollar store LED bulb, about 15W (1500 lumens). I will move it to the tent when it gets bigger and can handle more light, (cause why waste 200W when a 15W can do a decent job at starting a seedling?). Sure, during this growth you will see many practices that might be not "optimal" or that might lower the yield in comparison with others, but the key here is convenience, low investment in time and effort and low footprint in my room. You could comment so others can learn alternate ways of growing! That being said, it is just my second growth, and its a seed from a different breeder, different strain, sativa, not indica, and I am bound to run into some problems because of that. Anyhow, if you decide to hop along for the ride (which I hope ends with a nice harvest), I welcome you and your comments, as long as they are constructive ;). Update 16/06/20 ** P.S. I am only watering about 150ml of 6.5 pH water when the soil around the base of the stem changes back to a the color it had when it's dry (about once a day, you might need to increase water volume or frequency in the next weeks). You can also touch the surface of the soil and make sure it is not wet. It's important to let the roots breath by cycling between wet and (somewhat) dry soil. *** Also, I pH my water by doing drops of vinegar until reaching the desired level. **** It's best to leave the water uncovered for 24h to let the chlorine evaporate before giving it to your soil, in my opinion even if you are using powdered or liquid nutes it's a good idea to try to minimize your impact to the complex soil ecosystem as much as possible. An undisturbed and nurtured soil is a happy living soil that will protect your plant from your own mistakes. ******Also, if you have a window sill that receives a lot of sun you can use that instead of the led bulb to get started. You will know that your seedling needs more light if it's begging to grow taller and thinner instead of growing the leaves fatter. In that case, dont worry, just get more light (under a stronger light source or closer to the light) and add a bit more soil around the stem, so it will be supported, anyhow, the stem will eventually develop its own roots when surrounded by moist soil. ******For the first week of care (and for several others) you will only need to spend a few minutes a day to take proper care of your plant. My routine is to check the color of the leaves and the overall growth of the plant for a minute, pH the unclorinated water I left the day before, then water the plant and refill the water container for the next day. That's all you need to do. I occasionally stare at the plant, take pictures, imagine how it might smell during flowering, etc... but that is optional, however the more you know your plant, the easier it will be to notice when something is wrong. >>DISCLAIMER<< Please be at least as careful with electricity as you would be with fire. You should know what you are doing around it. If you dont feel confident enough to wire your own system (i.e. electric outlet to fuse to light array) please seek advice. I think is very simple to do, but also very simple to get wrong and burn your damn house down! I will assume you dont want to burn down your house, so please do things properly, or buy a light fixture that you trust.
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Grow Questions
Symbiosis_420
Symbiosis_420started grow question 4 years ago
I've been giving 6.5 pH water once and the next time I add nutrients until I get an EC of 1mS/cm. This was ok before (runoff didn't show many nutrients on soil). Now I water 2.5L/day but the plant leaves nutrients in soil (runoff EC increases rapidly!) It's in week 4 of flower.
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nicksanswered grow question 4 years ago
keep in mind that PPM/EC meter can lose their calibration, I run promix and monitor my PPM/EC and if its much higher than I put in I lessen the amount in the feed, but this is my first time so take it for what it is. I just wanted to mention the calibration thing, because i have 3 meters, only one is correct you can get calibration fluid online, fairly cheap i paid $10 for a small bottle of 1000PPM, my one meter tested within 1 pt, so i know its good, the other read 600 and the other read 1500. Also the error doesn't seem linear and the gap widens significantly the higher the PPM, for example the Good meter that reads 1000 the other read 1500 if the good one read 1400, the bad one could be as high as 4000ppm I couldn't make sense of it. From the thumbnail above this text box, it looks like u might have one of the cheap meters i have i'd buy some calibration fluid just to have some peace of mind gl. Barring that you can strictly follow the guidelines for your feed, and adjust based on need and symptoms or you can use your meter as a rough estimate, and learn "the new scale its given you" GL you'll get through this
Symbiosis_420
Symbiosis_420started grow question 4 years ago
Hello fellow growers, I am a noob and I feel I am close to my harvest week, could you have a look at the trichomes in the pic and there is a video in my diary week 7. It's an Amnesia Haze, vegged for 6 weeks and it's on 8th week of flowering. What do you think? close to harvest?
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Justa_Retardanswered grow question 4 years ago
Here I'll just assume that you've smoked weed before, or you probably wouldn't have started growing yourself. Well, it's entirely up to you when to harvest, depending on what kind of high your prefer. For instance, You'll get an energetic high with more "milky" trichomes, while you'll get a stoned high with more amber. Tho, it's also a little depending on the plant how much amber is needed for the stoned high. - Harvesting with a lot of clear trichomes, should be avoided tho, since they don't really contain any THC. so you'll just have wasted your time caring for the plant, if your intent is getting high off of it.. Personally, I prefer a stoned high, so I wait longer than most people before harvest.
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Ferenc
Ferencweek 15
Lovely. Great job. Congrats :) @Symbiosis_420
Symbiosis_420
Symbiosis_420
@Ferenc, Thanks man, its been a bit of challenge to keep her alive for about 4 months already... partly because I am still learning, and partly because since the day I planted it I already wanted to smoke it xD
Herbie
Herbieweek 1
I must applaud a fellow on the cheap grower. Happy growing friend
HAPPY91
HAPPY91week 12
Looking great! Happy growing
MrJones
MrJonesweek 1
Very Good Luck With Your Grow❗ High Five and :punch:πŸ’―πŸŒΏ:thumbsup: πŸ™ŒπŸ™ŒπŸ‘ Please Check Out My Diary'sπŸ™ŒπŸ™ŒπŸ‘
LittleBigTrees
LittleBigTreesweek 1
Interesting grow πŸ‘
TheUk420Show
TheUk420Showweek 6
Nice training my friend will surly be ready for the flip soon :) Good cloning too is that a dwc bucket or just water ?
Symbiosis_420
Symbiosis_420
@TheUk420Show, Thanks bro, I had to develop this very special way of cloning because of the first pheno I got, it was a blueberry cannabis which was very very hard to clone. I tried rockwool, dwc, cup of water, aloe Vera, honey, rooting hormone. So in the end only this combination of techniques was able to reliably clone every cutting. So I think that having such a picky plant allowed me to learn a lot, I wouldn't had tried any other method of the cup of water worked. So, if you have the time/money to do it, just try it, you might learn many useful and fun things on the road, and at worst you gained experience and know why it doesn't work for you. When it comes to the clones, I agree with you, they take more time to grow big and thick compared to a seed (in my limited experience). But they are a guaranteed exact copy of the mother. Let's say you make medicine with your cannabis, you would want every single pill from every single harvest to have the same effect on you.
TheUk420Show
TheUk420Show
@Symbiosis_420, That sounds like a very fool proof system for cloning :) I've only ever my current run with clones and well I'm not sure I'll run them again. Yes its cheaper but they dont grow like plants from seed they don't stretch much and the branches end up quite skinny in my experience they cannot support the weight of the buds maybe I'm missing a trick when it comes to vegging but my feed solution does contain silicon so they should not be like that take a look at mine and see what you think :) Maybe I didnt veg them long enough ? My routine for taking cuttings can see them root in around 4-5 days. though I do not use the dwc buckets to clone I just use rock wool i simply cut the stem and dip it in some hormone and wack it iin the rock wool use a humidifier to push the humidity up to 90 or so percent for two days and that usually does the trick I've taken cuttings from a cutting before and still worked out fine as it was getting too large lol. Recently took cuttings for a friend who was struggling done 8 for him and all 8 have rooted so happy days :) I have thought about getting an eextra bucket for clones but If its not broke dont fix it lol. defo upload some piics we all love to see diy projects and get ideas from other peoples styles of growing its what this site is all about ::) stay safe man and good luck for the rest of the grow the best part is yet to come :)
Symbiosis_420
Symbiosis_420
@TheUk420Show, Thanks a lot! It's a DIY dwc bucket I use for clonning. Basically a 2lt plastic ice-cream bucket (painted black to avoid algae growth) filled with water. I also cut some holes in the lid for the cuttings and added a 3 liter/min aquarium airpump). I also have a clonning ritual that works for me. First I place my cuttings in rooting hormone and leave them in small shot glasses in lowlight. It's only after I would see roots start to pop out, that get them into the dwc ice-cream bucket. It works everyrime! I've run some experiments (although, only with two strains) and it seems to me that the higher concentration of IBA makes them start to root faster in the cup than in the dwc (where the rooting hormone gets diluted in the solution); but once the roots are out, they grow like crazy in the oxigen rich water of the dwc. That's why I do this combination. I might add some pics about it later.
Clutch
Clutchweek 16
Congratulations on the harvest friend. Gonna be some good tasty buds when dried and cured. πŸ˜‰πŸ‘ I'm almost done too.
Symbiosis_420
Symbiosis_420
@Clutch, thanks bro. It is drying right now, and the room smells even stronger now! Can't wait to cure it ;)
Tweezer
Tweezerweek 8
Very Strong looking grow!!! πŸ’―
Athos
Athosweek 10
Runoff in soil is kind of misleading. It does not make much sense to meassure it. Actually I don't water to runoff with soil. During flowering stage I feed every time I water with an EC range of 1.6 to 1.9; new fresh all-mix kind of soil can have a runoff over 10.000 PPM (20 EC), after weeks of pure watering, when the runoff reaches 2500 PPM (5 EC), I start getting deficiencies.
Symbiosis_420
Symbiosis_420
@@Athos, thanks for your answer. I didn't know that about the soil ppm. I guess I won't worry too much about it if I have no signs of nute burn and I ma not feeding too high of an EC. This is only my second grow, and on the first one I almost killed a blueberry cannabis by feeding it too many nutrients causing lockouts, so I guess I was too afraid something like that would happen, specially on this long flowering strain.
iHateSativa
iHateSativaweek 16
Royal Queen Never Disappoints, Enjoy Friend